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axali mowvevis baTumis sakrebulo oTxpartiuli iqneba. TviTmmarTvelobaSi `qarTul ocnebas~ 19 deputati
eyoleba, aqedan 9 proporciuli siiT, xolo
10 – maJoritari. garda mmarTveli gundisa, sakrebuloSi `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ 4, `evropuli saqarTvelos~ da `patriotTa aliansis~ TiTo-TiTo warmomadgeneli iqneba
momdevno oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi baTumis sakrebuloSi `evropuli saqarTvelos” saarCevno siis pirveli nomeri raul TavarTqilaZe Seecdeba baTumelebis problemebze zrunvas, Tumca, rogor moaxerxebs erTi xmiT Tanaqalaqelebis interesebis dacvas, amaze konkretuli pasuxi ar aqvs.
raul TavarTqilaZe xuloSi daibada, iqve daamTavra skola. Semdeg swavla dedaqalaqSi, Sinagan saqmeTa saministros akademiaSi ganagrZo. profesiiT kriminalist-iuristia. wlebis ganmavlobaSi Sss-Si sxvadasxva Tanamdebobaze muSaobda. 2003 wels, qveyanaSi ganviTarebuli cnobili movlenebis dros, iyo moZraoba `Cveni aWaris~ erT-erTi damfuZnebeli, romelic, misive gancxadebiT, aqtiurad ibrZoda aslan abaSiZis separatistuli reJimis winaaRmdeg. 2004-2008 wlebSi raul TavarTqilaZe gaxldaT xulos maJoritari deputati aWaris umaRles sabWoSi, aseve, sakanonmdeblo organos maSindeli iuridiuli komitetis Tavmjdomaris moadgilec. sadeputato vadis amowurvis Semdeg, sami wlis ganmavlobaSi regionis ganaTlebis, kulturisa da sportis ministris moadgilis posti eWira. moadgilis postidan kurirebda sportisa da axalgazrdobis saqmeTa departaments. 2016 wlamde `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ erT-erTi lideri iyo. hyavs meuRle da ori Svili.
– 2016 wlis dekembris dasawyisSi `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ sakuTari surviliT davtove. mizezi Cemsa da levan varSalomiZes Soris daZabuli urTierToba iyo. Cveni xedva erTmaneTTan TanxvedraSi ar modioda. maSin ara mxolod xsenebuli partiidan, politikidan wasvlac gadavwyvite da saqmianobis gagrZelebas megobrebTan erTad biznesSi vgegmavdi, – gviTxra batonma raulma. Tumca, misive TqmiT, maleve mas giga bokeria daukavSirda, romelTanac megobruli urTierToba akavSirebs da politikaSi darCena sTxova.
– batoni giga bokeria da batoni daviT baqraZe Cemi megobrebi arian. swored maT mTxoves regionSi mxarSi davdgomodi da davTanxmdi kidec. isini is adamianebi arian, romlebic qveynisTvis mniSvnelovan saqmeebs akeTeben da gaakeTeben momavalSic. `evropuli saqarTvelo~ evropuli, demokratiuli Rirebulebebis partiaa, romelic kanonieri gziT Secvlis xelisuflebas da pasuxismgeblobas aviRebT rogorc regionis, ise qveynis masStabiT, – acxadebs raul TavarTqilaZe, romelmac `nacionalur moZraobaSi~ yofnis dros baTumelebs sakmaod xmauriani da mwvave gancxadebebiT daamaxsovra Tavi.
ambobs, rom sufTa warsuli aqvs. `finansur keTildReobaze arasdros mizrunia. politikaSic sufTa xelebiT movedi da patiosnad vimuSave, amiT vamayob. Cemsken TiTs veravin gamoiSvers, rom biznesSi wilebi mqonda an fuls sxva gzebiT vakeTebdi. firosmanis quCaze `xruSCovkaSi~ vcxovrobT, xuloSi mamapapiseuli saxli da beSumSi agaraki maqvs, aseve 1998 wels gamoSvebuli avtomobili `audi a-6~. ori wlis win kurort goderZze 205 kvadratuli metri miwis nakveTi SeviZine. dedaqalaqSi cxovrebis periodSi, sakuTari xelfasiT oroTaxiani binis yidva movaxerxe, romelic mogvianebiT gavyide da Tanxa erT-erT samSeneblo kompaniaSi Sevitane. korpusi dRemde araa eqspluataciaSi Sesuli, radgan kompaniam nakisri valdebulebebi ver Seasrula. mokled, TbilisSi bina maqvs, iuridiulad gauformebeli~, – gviTxra man.
– modiT, Tavdapirvelad adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebi SeafaseT. ramdenad gakmayofilebT Tqveni partiis Sedegi?
– adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebi arasaxarbielo garemoSi Catarda. xelisuflebam yvela berketi gamoiyena, administraciuli resursiT dawyebuli, mosyidvebiT damTavrebuli. arCevnebis dros, ZiriTadad, fulma `imuSava~. `evropul saqarTvelos~ araTanabar pirobebSi mouwia brZola. iciT, rom Cveni partia axalSeqmnilia da arCevnebSic damoukideblad pirvelad monawileobda. yvelaferi arafrisgan daviwyeT, Tumca, miuxedavad pirobebisa, romelSic xelisufleba gvamyofebda, vfiqrob, kargi Sedegi davdeT. aWaraSi arCevnebze misuli mosaxleobis TiTqmis 7%-ma ndoba swored `evropul saqarTvelos~ gamoucxada, risTvisac SemTxveviT visargebleb da Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT madlobas vetyvi maT. saTqmelia isic, rom 300-ze meti biuleteni gagvibaTiles, Torem xmebis 8%-ze metic gvqonda miRebuli. Cemi mSobliuri dekanaSvilebis TemSi Cvenma maJoritarma Tengiz qedeliZem gaimarjva, sadac 4800 amomrCevelia. xuloSi ori deputati proporciuli siiT moxvda sakrebuloSi. iq `evropuli saqarTvelo~ fraqcias Seqmnis.
– Tumca baTumis sakrebuloSi `evropul saqarTvelos~ erTi warmomadgeneli eyoleba Tqveni saxiT.
– politikuri brZolis epicentri swored baTumi iyo, magram rac movipoveT, movipoveT. pirveli etapisTvis esec kargi Sedegia.
– `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ apelirebs, rom `evropuli saqarTvelo~ xelisuflebis satelitia da swored mmarTveli gundis damsaxurebiT moxvda partia TviTmmarTvelobebSi. ras ityviT yofili Tanagundelebis aseT gancxadebaze?
– me piriqiT vfiqrob, rom `nacionaluri moZraoba~ gaiyvana xelisuflebam. ise, minda sazogadoebas kidev erTxel vuTxra, rom `evropuli saqarTvelo~ aravisi sateliti partia araa. Cven damoukidebeli politikuri Zala varT, rac adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebma aCvena kidec. `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ winasaarCevno periodSi da Semdgomac Tavdasxmis reJimSia, magram Cven, maTgan gansxvavebiT, aravis davsxmivarT Tavs da arc samomavlod vapirebT amis gakeTebas. nacvlad imisa, rom `nacmoZraoba~ xelisuflebas ebrZodes, Cven gavxdiT misi mTavari samizne. saTqmelia isic, rom daviT baqraZe, giga bokeria, gigi ugulava, petre zambaxiZe, mec da sxva Cveni gundis araerTi wevri xalxs isev `nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevrebi vgonivarT. garkveulwilad, identificirebis problema iyo da Cveni bevri xmac waiRo `nacionalurma moZraobam~. CvenTvis seriozuli oponenti xelisuflebaa, romelic, vTvliT, rom unda wavides. Cven 2020 wels, arCevnebis gziT, kanonierad SevcvliT xelisuflebas.
– ras gadawyvets `evropuli saqarTvelos~ erTi xma qalaqis sakrebuloSi?
– erTi xmiT amindis Seqmna rom ar moxerxdeba, es kargad vici, magram Cems amomrCevels da qalaqs vpirdebi, rom maT samsaxurSi viqnebi. vibrZoleb baTumis da baTumelebis keTildReobisTvis. sakrebulos aqtiuri wevri viqnebi. Cveni qalaqi evropuli tipis, ekologiurad (da ara marto) sufTa unda gaxdes. araerTi sakiTxis inicirebas vapireb, razec, wesiT, yvelam mxari unda damiWiros.
– ufro konkretulad rom gviTxraT…
– baTumis infrastruqtura yvela ubanSi mosawesrigebelia, amasTan, wylisa da saniaRvre sistemac. qalaqSi meti skveri unda gvqondes da gamwvanebuli adgilebi. mosaxleobas dasaqmebis problema aqvs, romelTa umravlesobac socialurad daucvelia. pensionerebi da mravalSviliani ojaxebic mZime mdgomareobaSi arian. danamatebis gacemis da sxva sakiTxebs aucileblad davayeneb sxdomebze. ramdenad damiWeren mxars, es ukve sxva sakiTxia.
– batono raul, `evropuli saqarTvelo~ sakrebuloSi fraqciis Seqmnas ver moaxerxebs. xom ar gegmavT romelime opoziciur ZalasTan TanamSromlobas?
– faqtia, rom am etapze fraqciis Seqmna gamoricxulia. magaliTad, `patriotTa aliansis~ da Cveni ideologia radikalurad gansxvavdeba erTmaneTisgan. SeuZlebelia prodasavlurma Zalam prorusulTan saerTo ena gamonaxos. arc `nacionalur moZraobasTan~ viTanamSromlebT, radgan Cveni gzebi erTxel ukve gaiyo da ara mgonia, isev gadaikveTos, es realobas acdenili gadawyvetileba iqneba.
– rogor fiqrobT, `evropul saqarTvelos~ baTumis merobis sxva kandidati rom hyoloda, igive Sedegs miiRebdiT, Tu?
– sxva rom yofiliyo baTumis merobis kandidati, naklebi Sedegi gveqneboda. petre zambaxiZes baTumelebi kargad icnoben, igi Semdgari politikosia, profesionali da patiosani adamiani. adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebze `evropuli saqarTvelos~ Sedegze garkveuli roli swored misma faqtorma moaxdina. Sedegi, rac miviReT, Cveni kandidatis damsaxurebacaa.