როგორ გახდა ეკატერინე გვარამია <<ეკონომიური>> მსახიობი და რატომ აქვს იმედი, რომ სულ ახალგაზრდა იქნება?
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energiuli, mxiaruli, Zalian pozitiuri da mizandasaxuli – ase icnoben baTumis Tojinebisa da mozard mayurebelTa profesiuli saxelmwifo Teatris msaxiobs ekaterine gvaramias misi megobrebi da axloblebi. msaxioboba misi bavSvobis ocneba iyo, Tojinebis Teatri ki is adgilia, sadac mudam axalgazrda xar da ar berdebi. `sami goWi~, `rkinis guli~, `Ceqmebiani kata~, `bremeneli musikosebi~, `batis Wuki~, `kokroWina~, `wiTelquda~, `rapunceli~ – es im speqtaklebis arasruli CamonaTvalia, sadac man bavSvebisTvis, da ara marto maTTvis, dauviwyari saxeebi Seqmna. ekaterinesTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovani patarebis gulwrfeli emociebia, rac Zalian did Zalasa da energias matebs. kidev ra miznebi aqvs cxovrebaSi da ra ocneba darCa asaxdeni, amaze Tavad gvesaubreba.
– eka, ras niSnavs SenTvis msaxioboba da ra gza gaiare miznis misaRwevad?
– CemTvis msaxioboba RvTis saCuqaria. vfiqrob, yvela ver gaxdeba msaxiobi, amisTvis unda gqondes niWi da, rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania, saWiro dros saWiro adgilze unda aRmoCnde. vcekvavdi Temur bibileiSvilis qoreografiul ansamblSi. CemTvis scena da mquxare taSi erTgvari siamovneba iyo, yovelTvis mizidavda scena da sul mindoda vyofiliyavi yuradRebis centrSi. Tu niWi gaqvs, am gzas agrZeleb Tu ara, raRac etapebis gavlis Semdeg, Cerdebi.
SemoqmedebiTad Temur bibileiSvilTan gavizarde, davamTavre misi studia. baton TemurTan Tu gqonda Sexeba da kargad cekvavdi, es ukve didi plusi iyo. masTan movxvdi im dros da im nakadTan erTad, romlebmac zustad vicodiT, ras niSnavda es Cveni momavlisTvis. zogi dRes qoreografia, amis survili mec mqonda. skolis damTavrebis Semdeg gadavwyvite msaxioboba da qoreografoba, rac miuRebeli aRmoCnda Cemi ojaxisTvis, sadac erTmaneTis azrs dRemde uaRresad did pativs vcemT. iZulebuli gavxdi, Cems ocnebaze uari meTqva. axlandeli axalgazrdebi mizans rom aRweven da cxovrebas damoukideblad agrZeleben, Zalian momwons. maSin amis SesaZlebloba, samwuxarod, ar gvqonda, mTlianad viyaviT damokidebuli ojaxze. mec davyevi mSoblebis nebas da Cavabare ekonomikur fakultetze, swavlis damTavrebis Semdeg ki diplomi Semoido Taroze. ase iqneboda nebismieri sxva arasasurveli profesiis arCevis SemTxvevaSi. ise moxda, rom ver vnaxe samsaxuri, gaxsovT, albaT, 90-iani wlebi, ra rTuli iyo da garkveuli periodi davrCi umuSevari.
– ras gulisxmobdi, roca ambobdi, saWiro dros saWiro adgilze unda aRmoCndeo?
– rogorc giTxariT, Zalian mindoda msaxioboba, Cems ojaxs ki imedi hqonda, rom amis survili gamineldeboda, ase ar moxda. yvela micnobs rogorc mxiarulsa da pozitiurs, gavxdi gulCaTxrobili. Cemi megobari abarebda Teatralurze. erT dRes msaxiob nino sakandeliZesTan wavyevi, romelic mas sagamocdod amzadebda. uceb momibrunda da mkiTxa, aseTi aqtiuri rom xar da Zalian didi potencialic gaqvs, ratom Senc ar cdio. mec ar damimalavs da gavumxile Cemi problemebi. qalbatonma ninom miTxra, Tu raime guliT ginda, aucileblad gamogivao, masTan saubris Semdeg mTeli Rame ar mZinebia, gancdebi ganmiaxlda, suli amiforiaqda. erT dResac televizorTan vsxedvarT ojaxis wevrebi, gadis titrebiT reklama – Tojinebis Teatri acxadebda msaxiobebis konkurss. wavikiTxe, magram xma ar amomiRia. Cemda gasaocrad, mamaCemma miTxra, wadi, sinje, iqneb gamogivideso. etyoba, iseTi saxe mqonda, survili da uimedoba zedve mewera da arCevanis ufleba momca.
– SesarCevma konkursma rogor Caiara?
– konkursze uamravi msurveli movida. maT SesaZleblobebs reJisorebi revaz bainaziSvili da Tamaz bolqvaZe amowmebdnen. wavikiTxe leqsi `axmeteli patarZali~. yvelaferi kargad rom iyo, imiT mivxvdi, rom yvela gulianad icinoda. gadaWarbebuli Tu ar iqneba Tavis Sefaseba, ukve vicodi, rom damtovebdnen. asec moxda. CemTvis axali dRe gaTenda da daiwyo is etapi, romelsac wlebi velodi da romelmac Zalian Semcvala. am qveynad bevri niWieri adamiania, magram SeiZleba naklebad umarTlebs. me vTvli, rom Zalian gamimarTla. sawyis etapze Teatris maSindel direqtorTan arCil mamulaZesTan vmuSaobdi. ganaxlebuli dasi didi enTuziazmiTa da mondomebiT Seudga muSaobas. batonma arCilma me da qeTi egutiZes SemogvTavaza baTumis memed abaSiZis saxelobis xelovnebis saxelmwifo institutSi msaxiobis ostatobisa da reJisuris specialobiT gagvegrZelebina swavla. asec moviqeciT. movxvdiT Tamaz bolqvaZis jgufSi. samwuxarod, swavla da muSaoba erTad ar gamodioda da droebiT Teatridan wamovedi.
– ocnebis asrulebis Semdeg ra Seicvala Sens cxovrebaSi?
– swavla 2002 wels davamTavre da momeniWa Teatris msaxiobis kvalifikacia. ise moxda, rom TeatrSi mxolod 2007 wels davbrundi. swavlis paralelurad da Semdeg periodSic sxvadasxva studiaSi da sabavSvo gasarTob centrSi vmuSaobdi. samsaxurisTvis sadac mividodi da Cems diplomebs warvadgendi, ekonomikurs da Teatralurs erTmaneTTan ver akavSirebdnen. mec vxumrobdi, ekonomiuri msaxiobi viqnebi-meTqi. 2004 wels, xelovnebis universitetSi kaTedraze, Tbilisidan mowveuli metyvelebis pedagogis nato Citaias asistentadac daviwye muSaoba. ocnebaSic ki ver gavifiqrebdi, rom aseTi adamiani gamoTqvamda CemTan muSaobis survils. 6 wlis Semdeg, rigi mizezebis gamo, am samsaxuridan wamovedi.
– mainc da mainc Tojinebis Teatris msaxioboba ram gadagawyvetina?
– dramis Teatris msaxioboba msurda, magram Tojinebis TeatrSi sul sxvagvari samyaro davinaxe, ramac Zalian momxibla. aq rom aRmoCndebi, ukan dasaxevi gza aRar arsebobs, Tanac aq dRemde imdenad komfortulad vgrZnob Tavs, sxvaze aRaraferze mifiqria. es aris Teatri, sadac mudam axalgazrda xar da ar berdebi. bavSvebTan urTierTobas, maT gabrwyinebul saxeebsa da emociebs veraferSi gavcvli.
– Seni pirveli roli?
– sakurso speqtaklSi Sevasrule ufliswulis roli. maSin mivxvdi, rom saocnebo samyaroSi movxvdi. is emociebi axlac momyveba da mabednierebs. dRes ukve 18 moqmedi speqtaklidan 10-Si var dakavebuli. saxasiaTo rolebi maqvs yvela. xSirad miwevs alqajis gansaxiereba, vxumrob kidec, damapatenteT, gansakuTrebuli alqaji var-meTqi. gasanawilebel rolebs rom vecnobi, zustad vici, vin viqnebi. rolebs ver gamovarCev, yvela gansakuTrebulia da Zalian miyvars, TiToeuls did drosa da energias vuTmob, Tavadac Zalian vxalisob, darwmunebuli var, mayurebelic. es aris Teatri, sadac acocxleb Tojinebs da axareb bavSvebs. maTi siyvaruli CemTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovania. bednieri var, roca patara mayurebeli modis CemTan da gulwrfelad meubneba, ici, yvelaze magari dRes Seni alqaji iyoo. roca uaryofiT, av personaJs im doneze iTamaSeb, rom saukeTesod gaRiareben, es aris warmateba.
– ra aris SenTvis mayureblis taSi?
– Tu mxurvale taSi damikres da darbazi daingra, es emociebi SeiZleba Tveebi gamyves. Tu ara, maSin mosvenebas vkargav, vfiqrob, ra ver gavakeTe ise, rom Tavi ver movawone mayurebels. amiT Zalian viTrgunebi.
– raime kuriozs xom ar gaixseneb?
– baTumi patara qalaqia, yvela erTmaneTs icnobs. mayureblis siyvaruls quCaSic yvela nabijze grZnob. maxsendeba, speqtaklSi `sami goWi~ erT-erTi viTamaSe. gamovdivarT Teatridan `samive goWi~ da mesmis bavSvis aRfrTovanebuli SeZaxili, deda, deda, naxe Rorebi modiano. erTi msgavsi SemTxvevac maxsovs: speqtaklis Semdeg TmagaSlili, aCqarebuli nabijebiT saxlisken miviCqari, Tan grimic maqvs nawilobriv SerCenili. mesmis, bavSvi rogori sixaruliT eubneba dedas, Sexede, alqaji qali modiso. aseTi situaciebi Zalian miyvars da maxalisebs.
– sad aris Seni yvelaze gulwrfeli da madlieri mayurebeli?
– baTumis Semdeg, xuloSi. iqac gamorCeul siTbos da siyvaruls vgrZnob. roca dasi iq Cadis, iseTi zar-zeimiT gvxvdebian, rom Tavi holivudis msaxiobi mgonia. patarebi speqtaklis dasrulebis Semdeg gvelodebian da gvesiyvarulebian. es msaxiobisTvis Zalian bevrs niSnavs. Cven xom meti araferi gvinda – gulwrfeli emocia, mxurvale taSi da gulTbili Sexvedra. mokled, Zalian miyvars xuloeli mayurebeli da yovelTvis mouTmenlad velodebi maTTan Sexvedras.
– gastrolebze xSirad gadixarT?
– weliwadSi orjer mainc. Cveni Teatri am mxrivac Zalian warmatebulia. piradad me, viyavi saraevoSi, bosniaSi da lvovSi. waruSleli STabeWdilebebiTa da diplomebiT davbrundiT.
– damwyeb msaxiobebs ras urCevdi?
– upirvelesad, uyvardeT Tavisi profesia, iyvnen mizandasaxulni, sxva SemTxvevaSi, araferi gamova. vusurveb maT bevr rols, profesiul winsvlas da madlier mayurebels.
– ra aris Seni sanukvari ocneba?
– amjerad Cemi ocneba profesias ar ukavSirdeba. msaxiobobis paralelurad, vwer zRaprebs. erTaderTi, visac wavakiTxe da vis azrsac viTvaliswineb, Cemi usayvarlesi da madonaa. wlebis Semdeg minda gamovce Cemi zRaprebis krebuli. mjera, am ocnebasac avixden. aki miTxres kidec, mTavaria, guliT gindodeso. Ddarwmunebuli var, mkiTxvels Zalian moewoneba da bevr ramezec daafiqrebs.
