ალექსანდრე თევზაძე ყველა ფაქტს ასაჯაროებს
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baTumis zooparki lamis daarsebis dRidan gaxda cxovelebisTvis sakoncentracio banaki, romelsac mxolod sikvdilis SemTxvevaSi daaRwevdnen Tavs. albaT, swored amitom, iq misuls sibralulisgan guli mewureboda da bavSvebsac varidebdi maT naxvas. iyo periodebi, rodesac zooparkis binadrebi SimSilisgan ixocebodnen, xolo im Savbnel 90-ianebSi, isini, romelTa xorcic sakvebad vargoda, sasaklaoze gauSves. maxsovs, ori-sami gaZvaltyavebuli mgeli, mela da tura ibuzeboda galiebSi da ise sacodavad iyurebodnen, naklebad mogagonebdnen mtacebel cxovelebs.
cxadia, gamixarda, Semdgom periodSi saTanadod rom moewyo da aRiWurva volierebi. Semoiyvanes ucxo jiSis ZviradRirebuli primatebi, TuTiyuSebi, kenguruebi, irmebi… maTi pirobebis mowesrigebis miuxedavad guli mtkioda, rom Cveni zooparki mainc ar hgavda ucxo qveynebisas, sadac cxovelebs individualurad uwyoben maT saarsebo garemos mimsgavsebul teritoriebs, xolo gamravlebis Semdgom, bunebaSi konservacias axdenen. Aamitom, simarTle giTxraT, ar gamkvirvebia baTumis zooparkis irgvliv atexili xmauri. ubralod is ver gavige, amden xans ratom iyvnen Cumad da vis aZlevda xels msgavsi gulgriloba, romelsac cxovelebis dacema (sikvdili) mohyva. Tu ra xdeba zooparkSi, ratom gaaTavisufles ganyofilebis ufrosi amiran murvaniZe Tanamdebobidan da Semdeg ratom aRadgina sasamarTlom, amaze interviu vTxoveT turistuli obieqtebis marTvis saagentos xelmZRvanels aleqsandre TevzaZes. batoni aleqsandre momentalurad dagvTanxmda interviuze da sakmaod aRelvebuli movida redaqciaSi. rogorc ganacxada, amden xans ar amZafrebda viTarebas da ar surda yvela detalis sazogadoebis samsjavroze gamotana, magram `radgan sasamarTlomac ver gaigo, Tu ra danaSauli edeboda bralad zooparkis yofil xelmZRvanels, aRar gavCerdebi da yvela faqts gavasajaroeb, xolo Semdeg Tavad sazogadoebam imsjelos da arCios mtyuan-marTali~.
cnobisaTvis: zooparkis istoria 1898 wlidan iwyeba. baTumis cxovelTa dacvis sazogadoebam axlandeli zookuTxis adgilze daaarsa e.w. maneJi, sadac sxvadasxva saxeobis cxovelebi binadrobdnen: maimunebi, daTvebi, ZaRlebi. 1933 wels, rodesac qalaqis parki bavSvTa parkad gadakeTda, kvlav dadga zookuTxis mSeneblobis sakiTxi. 1937 wels gamoiyo 0,6 heqtari miwis nakveTi da moewyo galiebi. droTa ganmavlobaSi zookuTxe icvleboda. 1971 wels xis volierebi kapitaluri nagebobebiT Seicvala, gaizarda mobinadreTa saxeobrivi Semadgenloba. maSindeli zookuTxis binadrebi ZiriTadad iyvnen saqarTvelos endemuri cxovelebi: kavkasiuri mura daTvi, mgeli, tura, maCvi, mela, iremi, bocveri. aseve sxvadasxva egzotikuri cxoveli da frinveli – maimuni, Sotlandiuri poni, arwivi, TuTiyuSi, farSavangi, cicari, dekoratiuli ixvi da sxva. 2006-2007 wlebSi ganxorcielda zookuTxis Zireuli rekonstruqcia, Tumca, rogorc specialistebi amboben, igi ar iyo standartebis Sesabamisi da cxovelebi mZime, arahumanur garemoSi imyofebodnen.
– batono aleqsandre, modiT daviwyoT Zireuli sakiTxiT, zooparki unda gadaitanon arsebuli teritoriidan, Tu ara?
– maSin daviwyoT saTavidan, kerZod, zooparkis aSenebisas, jer kidev daproeqtebis periodSi, aucilebelia specialistebis CarTva, raTa ar miviRoT is samwuxaro Sedegi, rac dResdReobiT gvaqvs. swored daproeqtebisas dauSves Secdomebi, ar gaTvales, romeli cxovelis saxeobaze iqneboda morgebuli galiebi da volierebi, ra ganviTareba eqneboda zooparks da saerTod, sulac ar CauTvliaT saWirod gaeTvaliswinebinaT Tanamedrove standartebi. yvelafer amas daemata wlebis ganmavlobaSi arakvalificiuri mmarTveloba, zedized dacemuli (daRupuli) cxovelebis ricxvis zrda, rac gasaidumloebuli iyo. menejmentma ver gaarTva Tavi warmoqnil problemebs, rac 50-ze meti cxovelis daRupvis mizezi gaxda.
– yofili zookuTxis xelmZRvaneli erT-erTi intervius dros mimtkicebda, rom zooparki mecnierul kvlevebs emsaxureboda, profesiiT vin aris amiran murvaniZe?
– ganaTlebiT mSenebelia. amas Tavi davaneboT, arc arasodes Sewuxebula raime saxis mecnieruli naSromis momzadebiT. zooparki ar emsaxureboda civilizebul samyaroSi arsebuli msgavsi uwyebisTvis aucilebel arc erT mimarTulebas: arc saganmanaTleblos da arc cxovelebis konservacias – maT bunebaSi dabrunebas. Tanac dacemuli cxovelebis arsebuli cifri sakmarisia imisaTvis, rom xelmZRvaneli sisxlis samarTlis pasuxisgebaSi mieces. dameTanxmeT, araeTikuria daRupuli cxovelebis TanxebSi gadayvana, magram isic xom unda gaiTvaliswinon, rom uzarmazari Tanxebis dakargvazea saubari.
– mainc romeli cxovelebi daixocnen?
– im dacemuli cxovelebis Zalian didi sia gvaqvs, romlebic Setanilia wiTel wignSi. gadarCenilebic gausaZlis pirobebSi arian. Svidi kengurudan erTi darCa. gaurkvevel viTarebaSia daxocili is eqvsi. sxvaTa Soris, dacemulTa Soris arian iSviaTi jiSis albinosi kenguruebi. is erTi gadarCenilic 5 wlis ganmavlobaSi marto hyavdaT, rac dauSvebelia. axla gadaviyvaneT TbilisSi, radgan alogikuri iyo misTvis wyvilis Camoyvana iq, sadac amdeni kenguru daiRupa. Aamjerad yvela dacemulis CamoTvlas ver SevZlebT, magram dainteresebulT mivawvdiT zust informacias.
– Tqven TvliT, rom yvelaferi es zooparkis araswori marTvis Sedegia?
– diax, swored ase vTvli. Tavad gansajeT, isini ar TanamSromlobdnen arc erTi zooparkis administraciis warmomadgenlebTan, romlebsac SeeZloT daxmarebodnen gamocdilebiT, codnis gaziarebiT an sulac specialistebis gamogzavniT. isini SeZlebdnen zemoT xsenebuli cxovelebis gadarCenas, TanamSromlebis gadamzadebas, saremonto samuSaoebis warmoebas, racionis sworad Sedgenas. yvela es problema grovdeboda wlebis ganmavlobaSi da dResac arsebobs.
– Tavad TqviT, rom cxovelebs teritoria ar hyofnida, am SemTxvevaSi ra unda eqna mmarTvels?
– diax, sakmarisi teritoria ar aris, magram elementaruli pirobebi mainc unda SeeqmnaT, rom amas ar gamoewvia mZime Sedegebi, romelic dRemde grZeldeba da jerac ar aris aRmofxvrili. magaliTad, primatebis ganyofilebaSi saerTod arasodes Catarebula fsiqo-sareabilitacio samuSaoebi. kerZod, roca primatebi gamomwyvdeulni arian patara sivrceSi, isini ver xarjaven energias, ris gamoc stresSi imyofebian. amis Tavidan asacileblad, iqve unda iyos mowyobili sxvadasxva saSualeba – miawodo saTamaSoebi, sakvebi daumalo, rom eZebos da interesi gauRvivdes. es saerTod ugulebelyofili aRmoCnda. msgavsi qmedebebis erTi faqtic ver moviZieT.
– sakvebis racionzec gqondaT pretenziebi…
– diax, dResdReobiT msoflioSi radikalurad Seicvala zooparkebSi primatebis kveba. banansac ki ar aWmeven masSi didi odenobiT Saqris Semcvelobis gamo. Cvens zooparkSi ki sakvebi gajerebuli iyo SaqriT, murabiT, Sededebuli rZiT da zeTiT, rac pirdapir vnebda cxovelebs.
– rac Seexeba amiran murvaniZes, is sasamarTlom aRadgina, apirebT Tu ara mis samsaxurSi dabrunebas?
– araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar SeiZleba amis daSveba. radgan sasamarTlom Cveni sarCeli ar daakmayofila, saapelacios mivmarTavT. aqamde Zalian vcdilobdi es ambebi ar gaxmaurebuliyo, ar mindoda baTumis zooparkSi datrialebuli tragedia farTo masStabis msjelobis sagani gamxdariyo. vufrTxildebodi parkis imijs, magram aRar damitoves gamosavali da minda yvela zemoT xsenebuli faqti kidev ufro dakonkretdes, raTa yvelam gaigos, ra gaxda amiran murvaniZis gaTavisuflebis mizezi da ra pretenziebi gagvaCnia Cven mis mimarT. cxadia, imasac vityviT, ra gavakeTeT da ra ver gavakeTeT, magram CemTvis mTavaria, mediaSi Seqmnili aJiotaJi emsaxurebodes cxovelTa gadarCenas da maTTvis saarsebod aucilebeli pirobebis Seqmnas.
– Tqven ra profesiis xarT?
– ganaTlebiT samarTalmcodne, iuristi, saerTaSoriso urTierTobebis specialisti var, magram roca damWirda, avad Tu kargad, gaverkvie eTologiis specifikur moTxovnebSi. dRevandeli informirebis pirobebSi Tu moindomeb, es ar aris rTuli. amas imitom aRvniSnav, rom veZebT zooparkisTvis mcodne, gamocdil, profesional mmarTvels, magram miWirs arCeva, radgan veravin vnaxe, romelmac Cemze meti icis am sferoSi.
– Tqven, rogorc saagentos xelmZRvaneli, ras akeTebdiT im dros, rodesac cxovelebi iRupebodnen?
– me mxolod ori welia rac movedi. Tavidan aravin Camaxeda problemebSi. dameTanxmeT, sakiTxi specifikuria da ar aris rigiTi adamianebisTvis maSinve gasagebi. erTi weli damWirda, mowveul specialistebTan erTad gagverkvia, rasTan gvqonda saqme. maSin davuSviT eTologis Static. TandaTan, roca gavaanalize rigi sakiTxebi, daviwye reagireba. moviwvieT moskovis lomonosovis universitetis profesori natalia abozova, romelic msoflio donis eTologTa xuTeulSi Sedis. masTan mTeli naxevari weli aqtiurad vTanamSromlobdiT. amasTan, kontaqtze gavediT praRis da londonis zooparkebis TanamSromlebTan, mWidro TanamSromloba daviwyeT Tbilisis zooparkTan, CamoviyvaneT iqidan specialistebi da Cvens TanamSromlebs treningebi CavutareT. evropis akvariumebis da zooparkebis asociaciis (eaza) warmomadgenlebsac mivmarTeT da maTi rCevebic gaviTvaliswineT. sxvaTa Soris, Tbilisis zooparki am asociaciis kandidati wevria da misi mkacri kontrolis qveS imyofeba. isini akvirdebian, rogor mimdinareobs maTTan cvlilebebi, aZleven zust direqtivebs ganviTarebisTvis. aqedan gamomdinare, gamarTlebulad miviCnieT, gadmogveRo da dagvenerga is aprobirebuli meTodebi, rac maT gaaCniaT da Sesabamisad, SevcvaleT Cveni midgomebi zooparkis binadarTa mimarT. bolo ori wlis ganmavlobaSi didi samuSaoebi gavwieT, Tumca es mainc ar aris sakmarisi imisaTvis, rom srulfasovani, dRevandeli standartebis saxe miiRos Cvenma zooparkma. samwuxarod, is problemebi, rac damxvda zooparkSi, aris ukiduresad mZime. arsebuli viTareba, rac wlebis ganmavlobaSi Camoyalibda, rTulad dasaregulirebeli iqneba. samTavrobo doneze miiRes gadawyvetileba, rom msgavsi struqturis arseboba turistul qalaqSi saerTaSoriso masStabiT ulaxavs imijs baTums, Tanac, amas rom Tavi davaneboT, uxeSad irRveva cxovelTa uflebebi, rac miuRebelia CvenTvis. merias SevTavazeT ori varianti: an davitovoT is cxovelebi, romelTac teritoria aitans da swored amis gaTvaliswinebiT Catardes rekonstruqcia an gadavitanoT zooparki axal, vrcel teritoriaze, sadac aSendeba Tanamedrove standartebis Sesabamisi zooparki. mTavrobam meore varianti arCia.
– sazogadoebaSi gavrcelda xma, rom zooparki gadaaqvT, raTa parkis am teritoriaze kafe-barebi da restornebi moewyos…
– parkis komercializacia rom moxdeba, es faqtia, radgan izrdeba vizitiorTa ricxvi da msgavsi moTxovna TavisTavad dgeba dRis wesrigSi, magram es aranair kavSirSi ar aris zooparkis gadatanasTan. imis mixvedras, rom cxovelebisTvis damRupvelia aseT patara teritoriaze arseboba, ar sWirdeba zoologiaSi doqtoris xarisxi. kidev erTxel vambob, 5 wlis ganmavlobaSi 50 cxovelia daRupuli. nuTu marTla fiqrobs vinme, rom isini specialurad gaanadgures, raTa kafeebisTvis adgili gamoeTavisuflebinaT? meeWveba, msgavsi ram baTumelebma daijeron. Tanac erTs vityvi – Tuki zooparki gadava, im adgilas ganlagdeba sabavSvo gasarTobi kompleqsi da mcire zomis kafeebi, romlebic moemsaxureba rogorc turistebs, ise baTumelebs. araviTari farTomasStabiani restornebis aSeneba iq ar aris dagegmili. mosaxleobas mivmarTav, fxizlad Seafasos viTareba da dagviWiros mxari Cveni qalaqis kidev ufro galamazebisa da ganaSenianebisTvis. vfiqrob, Tanamedrove standartebis zooparki kidev erTi axali, saintereso da SemecnebiTi turistuli obieqti gaxdeba, pirvel yovlisa, Cveni patarebisTvis.
– gisurvebT warmatebebs!
