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laSa aslaniSvili, profesiiT istorikosi, erTi weliwadia, rac aWaris kulturuli memkvidreobis dacvis saagentos direqtoris movaleobas asrulebs. manamde igi saagentoSi samuzeumo ganyofilebas xelmZRvanelobda. axal postze mosvlisTanave batonma laSam Tavis erT-erT interviuSi ganacxada, rom: `Zvelma baTumma maqsimalurad unda SeinarCunos iersaxe… saqmeSi unda CaerTon dargis specialistebi da gadawyviton mTeli rigi sakiTxebi da problemebi. rogorc istorikoss, sakuTari xedva maqvs, magram xelovnebaTmcodnis, arqiteqtoris, restavratoris sityva gadamwyveti iqneba~.
unda aRiniSnos, rom am wlis ganmavlobaSi marTlac bevri ram Seicvala ukeTesobisken saagentoSi, aRiricxa aWaris teritoriaze arsebuli kulturuli memkvidreobis uZravi Zeglebi, dazustda maTi adgilmdebareobis, agebis TariRi, funqciuri daniSnuleba, saagento axali kvalificiuri kadrebiT dakompleqtda da sxv. aseve, qalaqis axalma merma gagvacno Tavisi strategia Zvel baTumTan mimarTebaSi, miiRes axali regulaciebic qalaqis am nawilSi mSeneblobebis Sesaxeb, ramac garkveuli dadebiTi Zvrebi gamoiwvia. arc isaa urigo, rom am ubanSi mcxovrebT saSualeba eZlevaT, gaiumjobeson sacxovrebeli pirobebi saxelmwifo struqturebis daxmarebiT. yvelafer amaze, aWaraSi arsebuli Zeglebis turistul datvirTvasa Tu funqciis gazrdaze dRes laSa aslaniSvili gvesaubreba.
– batono laSa, daviwyoT sainformacio baziT – ramdenad srulyofilia igi da ra kuTxiTaa sistematizebuli?
– uzarmazari samuSao Catarda. moxda Zeglebis inventarizacia, maTi raodenobis dazusteba-identifikacia da amis safuZvelze erTiani, srulyofili baza Camoyalibda. masSi aRnusxulia 373 kulturuli memkvidreobis Zegli. aqedan 248 baTumSia. baza TiToeuli Zeglis Sesaxeb Seicavs teqstur monacemebs, aRwerilobas, fotomasalas da eleqtronul rukebs. Tuki manamde, informaciis arqonis gamo, iyo cdomileba sakadastro rukebSi, xdeboda misamarTebis aRreva an samarTlebrivi reJimi ar iyo sworad gawerili, amJamad yvela es problema gadavWeriT da movamzadeT dokumentaciis sruli paketi TiToeul Zeglze. sxvaTa Soris, sul male, nebismier dainteresebul pirs SeeZleba saZiebo internetsistema `guglis~ meSveobiT aWaraSi arsebuli kulturuli memkvidreobis Zeglebis Sesaxeb informaciis miReba. dameTanxmeT, Cveni SesaZleblobebis pirobebSi, marTlac ar aris patara samuSao Catarebuli.
– ra etapzea bulvarSi balneologiuri centris mSeneblobis sakiTxi, xom ar dairRva ZeglTa dacvis raime piroba?
– bulvarSi poliklinikis Zveli Senoba ukve amortizebuli iyo da is ar warmoadgenda Rirebul Senobas. amis Sesaxeb daskvnac arsebobs. igi arc yofila Zegli, ubralod, Zeglis teritoriaze mdebareobs da aman gamoiwvia sazogadoebis daintereseba da aJiotaJi. am mxriv SegiZliaT sruliad damSvidebuli iyoT, radgan kulturuli memkvidreobis dacvis sabWom (ar agverios e.w. zonalur sabWoSi) erTxmad dauWira mxari axal proeqts, radganac ar icvleba Senobis funqcia (kvlavac balneologiuri centri iqneba), icvleba mxolod moculoba, fasadi da konstruqcia. is proeqti, rac investorma warmogvidgina, yvelasTvis misaRebi aRmoCnda. sxvaTa Soris, es is SemTxvevaa, roca mSeneblobis gamo, irgvliv arsebuli arc erTi xe da buCqi ar daziandeba. cnobisTvis getyviT, rom manamde mand surdaT 26-sarTuliani sastumro kompleqsis mSenebloba, rac kategoriulad miuRebeli iyo CvenTvis.
– Tqveni oponentebi miiCneven, rom kulturuli memkvidreobis dacvis politika aWaraSi araTanmimdevrulia da azaralebs rogorc saxelmwifos, ise calkeul moqalaqeebs.
– adre, roca ar arsebobda sistematizebuli sainformacio baza, SesaZloa asec iyo, magram merwmuneT, axla samTavrobo da arasamTavrobo uwyebebi Tanmimdevrulad axorcieleben Cveni qalaqisa da regionisTvis aucilebel RonisZiebebs am kuTxiT. geTanxmebiT, rom rig saxlebSi, romlebsac kulturuli memkvidreobis statusi gaaCnia, marTlac gausaZlisi sacxovrebeli pirobebia, magram ukve gadaidga nabijebi am problemebis aRmosafxvrelad. vgulisxmob msgavsi saxlebis mobinadreTaTvis gansazRvrul specialur midgomas. kerZod, Tuki mobinadreebi SemogvTavazeben saxlis sarestavracio samuSaoebis proeqts Tavisi xarjTaRricxviT, Cven SevZlebT saagentos biujetiT sareabilitacio samuSaoebis Catarebas.
– gasagebia, magram vin SemorCa msgavs saxlebs, kargad iciT – maT proeqtis Rirebulebis Tanxa ar gaaCniaT…
– diax, gasagebia arsebuli mZime socialuri foni. swored amitom, Cven maqsimalurad vcdilobT maT daxmarebas. magaliTad, vTavazobT xelovnebaTmcodnis ufaso momsaxurebas rekomendaciis mxriv, ufro metic, Tu winaswar gvecodineba ama Tu im Senobis sareabilitacio proeqtiT gansazRvruli Tanxa, SevZlebT amis gaTvaliswinebiT davgegmoT momavali wlis biujeti. Sevecdebi, ufro martivad avxsna es sakiTxi, raTa davaintereso am saxlebis imedgadawuruli mosaxleoba: magaliTad, SeiZleba proeqtis Rirebuleba Seadgendes 1000 lars, xolo samuSaoebis – 15 000 lars, am SemTxvevaSi, saagento Tavis Tavze aiRebs samuSaoebis dafinansebas. weliwadSi 100 aTasi laric rom gaiweros am xarjebis dasafarad Cvens biujetSi, warmoidgineT, ramden ojaxs movuwesrigebT yofiT problemas.
– jer am kuTxiT aravin SemogexmianaT?
– kulturuli memkvidreobis Zeglze Casatarebeli sareabilitacio samuSaoebis 7 proeqti ukve mzadaa. aqedan erTi Tavad mesakuTris TxovniT gavakeTeT, mas usasyidlod gadaveciT, radgan am dokumentaciis mixedviT, Tavisi xarjebiT srul reabilitacias Cautarebs saxls. danarCeni eqvsi proeqti xarjTaRricxvasTan erTad gadaveciT baTumis merias, romelic etapobrivad moaxdens am uZravi kulturuli memkvidreobis Zeglebis konservacia-reabilitacias. vfiqrob, esec wingadadgmuli nabijia. manamde msgavsi SemTxvevebi ar yofila araTu qalaqSi, aramed mTels regionSi. vimedovneb, droTa ganmavlobaSi mizanmimarTulad daiwyeba Zeglebis reabilitacia.
– es imdenjer iTqva da gadaido, rom xalxs ukve gadaewura imedi…
– simarTle giTxraT, ZeglTa reabilitacia ar aris ase ioli. aq saxsrebzec araa saubari. adamianuri resursis deficits ufro vawydebiT. qalaqSi Znelad moiZebneba konservaciis specialisti. esec rom movagvaroT, kanoni ar iTvaliswinebs ZeglTa erTian restavracias. rac unda didi Tanxa gedos biujetSi, 248 Zeglis Tundac 2-3-wliani erTdrouli reabilitaciac ki yovlad dauSvebelia. es unda moxdes etapobrivad da kompleqsur midgomas saWiroebs.
– ramdenadaa saagento da aWaris kulturuli memkvidreobis sabWo dakompleqtebuli specialistebiT? rogorc vici, iyo saubari SoTa gujabiZis sabWodan gaSvebaze.
– zustad ver getyviT, SeiZleba adre iyo saubari, magram axla msgavsi problema ar wamoWrila da, saerTod, es sakiTxi arc ki ganixileba. cxadia, sabWos dakompleqtebisas gaTvaliswinebuli iyo debuleba da kanoni, sadac garkveviT weria specialistebis Sesaxeb, magram iq aseve miTiTebulia, rom sabWoSi SeiZleba sazogado moRvawis Seyvanac.
– xSiradaa dapirispireba sabWos wevrebs Soris?
– `baTomis~ warmomadgenlebi marTlac Zalian ganicdian Zvel baTumTan dakavSirebul sakiTxebs, magram dapirispireba ratom unda iyos? rig sakiTxebSi veTanxmebi maT pozicias, aris sakiTxi, raSic ar veTanxmebi. sabWoze msjeloba konstruqciul reJimSi mimdinareobs. garda amisa, sabWoSi gvyavs xelovnebaTmcodne, arqiteqtori, geologic… SesaZloa, konstruqtoric davimatoT, radgan xSirad gvWirdeba misi konsultacia. marTalia, es dRes da xval ar gadawydeba, magram aucileblad gveyoleba. minda aRvniSno, rom bolo erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi sabWos mier ganxiluli 282 sakiTxidan mxolod erTi gasaCivrda zemdgom instanciaSi, Tumca dainteresebul pirs sasamarTlosTvis ar miumarTavs. es imas niSnavs, rom saagentos aqvs sworeba obieqturobaze da moqmedebs Zeglis dacvis principiT, kanonidan gamomdinare.
– ratom unda iyos Tqveni moadgile an arqiteqtori, an iuristi, Tundac finansisti an ekonomisti?
– moadgilis specialoba saagentos debulebiTaa dadgenili. mogexsenebaT, saagento Zalian didi gamowvevebis winaSea da amis gamo erT-erTi am specialobis adamiani aucileblad gvWirdeba, radgan vawarmoebT sxvadasxva masStabis samuSaoebs, romelic saWiroebs mkacr kontrols. Cvens funqciaSi Sedis infrastruqturis mowesrigeba, Zeglis reabilitacia da a.S. cxadia, Semowmeba xdeba rogorc finansur ise arqiteqturul nawilSi. aqedan gamomdinare, sruliad logikuria, rom moadgilis Statze xazgasmulia is moTxovnebi, rac Tqven kiTxvaSi axseneT. minda visargeblo SemTxveviT da kidev erTxel mivmarTo baTumelebs, im moqalaqeebs, vinc statusminiWebul saxlSi cxovroben – gTavazobT urTierTdaxmarebis reJimSi TanamSromlobas. aqve davamateb, rom kulturuli memkvidreobis obieqtebis movla-patronoba da dacva ara marto saagentos, aramed TiToeuli moqalaqis valia.
