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`aslani gaiqca, aWara Tavisufalia~ – ase `axara~ 14 wlis win mixeil saakaSvilma regionis da qveynis mosaxleobas avtonomiuri
respublikis lideris saqarTvelodan wasvla. dRes abaSiZis msgavsad, arc is gaxlavT saqarTveloSi, Tumca, aslanisgan gansxvavebiT,
eqs-prezidentisTvis da misi mcirericxovani mxardamWerebisTvis 6 maisi saxalxo dResaswaulia. principSi asecaa, Tumca am dRes mosaxleoba ara aWaris gaTavisuflebis, aramed wminda giorgis aRsrulebis dRes
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aslan abaSiZis garemocvaSi ramdenime adamiani moiazreboda. eseni iyvnen soso gogitiZe, giorgi abaSiZe, jemal gogitiZe, roman dumbaZe da murad cincaZe, Tumca 2004 wlis 6 maiss, gamTeniisas, abaSiZem mxolod soso gogitiZesTan erTad datova aWara. dRes aWaris eqs-lideris garemocvaze saubriT Tavs ar SegawyenT, Tumca, misi yofili Tanagundeli da masTan daaxloebul pirad monaTluli, uflebadamcveli Tamaz bakuriZe abaSiZisdroindel mmarTvelobaze saubrobs. ambobs, rom aslan abaSiZis xelisuflebaSi yofna unda dasrulebuliyo da amisTvis situaciac momwifebuli iyo.
– vidre aslan abaSiZis gundis wevrad moviazrebodi, 2003 wels, presmdivnis rangSi, telekompania `imedis~ eTerSi, misi garemocvis misamarTiT gancxadeba gavakeTe, rac Zvirad damijda. Cemi gancxadebis adresati uSiSroebis saministro iyo. ganvacxade, rom regionSi saqme gvqonda finansur maqinaciebTan da korufciasTan. Cemi es gancxadeba adgilobriv mediasaSualebebs ar autacebiaT da verc aitacebdnen, magram Tu vinme Cemi sityvebis simarTleSi eWvs Seitans, SeuZliaT dasaxelebuli televiziis arqivs gadaxedon. mogvianebiT isic vTqvi, rom abaSiZis politikuri likvidacia gardauvali iyo, radgan radikalur zomebs ar mimarTa, – gviTxra aslan abaSiZis yofilma Tanagundelma Tamaz bakuriZem.
– radikaluri zomebis gatarebaSi ras gulisxmobT?
– mas unda gaeTavisuflebina uSiSroebis saministros maRali Tanamdebobis pirebi, romlebic ukve gadabirebuli hyavda saakaSvilis xelisuflebas. situacia aCvenebda, rom aslan abaSiZe Tavissave garemocvas hyavda ganwiruli. 2001 wels aslan abaSiZem uSiSroebis sagangebo sxdoma moiwvia, sakadro cvlilebebs gegmavda Zalovan uwyebebSi. vfiqrob, uSiSroebis saministroSi apirebda cvlilebebs, radgan Ss ministri da aWaris mTavari prokurori ramdenime dRis daniSnulebi iyvnen, magram ver gariska. 2001 wels radikaluri zomebi rom gaetarebina abaSiZes, misi xelisuflebis dasasruli sxvagvari iqneboda.
– rogor fiqrobT, SeeZlo Tu ara aslan abaSiZes mixeil saakaSvilTan urTierTobis dalageba?
– maT Soris urTierToba, erTi periodi, dalagda kidec, magram Tavad saakaSvilma gatexa sityva. aslan abaSiZis dacvis wevrma miambo, saakaSvili pirvel Sexvedraze abaSiZesTan SeSinebuli mividao. aslans misTvis TiTi dauqnevia da uTqvams – amodi biWo, amodi, nu geSiniao. abaSiZe-saakaSvilis Sexvedras moskovis maSindeli meri iuri luJkovi eswreboda. SecdomaSi Semiyvanes batono aslan, uTqvams misTvis saakaSvils. erToblivi gegmebic dasaxes da gasatarebel RonisZiebazec imsjeles, magram saakaSvilma sityva gatexa. Sexvedris dasrulebisTanave abaSiZes luJkovisTvis uTqvams – arastabiluri, meryevi adamiania da sityvas gatexso.
– batono Tamaz, rogor daalagebda abaSiZe saakaSvilTan urTierTobas da rogor Secvlida im realobas, rac Tavis droze Seqmna?
– abaSiZe rom daTanxmebuliyo vadaze adre arCevnebs, misi partia garkveul xmebs miiRebda da politikurad ar mokvdeboda. zemomTiani aWara mas mxars uWerda. realurad, baTumi wavida mis winaaRmdeg, Tumca, baTumelebis didi nawili arc arasdros uWerda mxars. abaSiZes dro rom gaewela da saakaSvilis realuri saxe eCvenebina xalxisTvis, isinic dacxrebodnen. marTalia ver darCeboda politikur asparezze, magram viRacebisTvis arc regionis `gaqceuli~ lideri iqneboda. danamdvilebiT SemiZlia giTxraT, rom aslan abaSiZes rusebma SesTavazes, Sen gaisrole haerSi, Cven ki Coloqs CavketavTo. faqtobrivad ganmeordeboda afxazeTi, razec abaSiZe ar daTanxmda. vfiqrob, man amiT xeli Seuwyo saqarTvelos erTianobas, daSlas da ganxeTqilebas mSvidobianad wasvla arCia. 2004 wels 6 maisi `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobisTvis~ saxalxo zeimi iyo. dRes `zeims~ mosaxleoba ar uerTdeba. socialur qselSi weren – `nacionalurma moZraobam~ aWara ki ar gaaTavisufla, daipyroo. realurad – davkargeT.
– dakargvaSi ras gulisxmobT?
– istoriaSi uxarisxo qvafenilebis dagebiT, sxvadasxva ferad korpusebis SeRebviT, an parlamentis axali Senobis agebiT ver Sexval. istoriaSi Caiwereba, Tu ra gaakeTe qveynisTvis da regionisTvis. vkiTxulob, ra gaakeTa saakaSvilma? misma gauazrebelma da gauTvaliswinebelma geopolitikurma TamaSebma imsxverpla qarTuli miwa, davkargeT teritoriebi. abaSiZis wasvlis Semdeg saakaSvilma aWara Turqebs gadasca. erdoRans saakaSvilis siyvaruliT ar Caudia CvenTan investiciebi… Zalian kargad vici, rogori urTierToba hqonda mesuT ilmazTan da suleiman demirelTan, imdenad kargi, rom roca aslanma stambolSi gulis operacia gaikeTa, saavadmyofoSic ki moinaxules. isini yvelanairad cdilobdnen aWaraSi Semosvlas, magram aslan abaSiZem es ar dauSva. aWara TurqeTisken iyureba, aslanma ruseTs miyida yvelaferio – ambobdnen. `nacionalebma~ maCvenon, ra miyida aslanma rusebs an Turqebs, arc erTi mtkaveli miwa ar gausxvisebia mas. rom amboben, saakaSvilma gaalamaza baTumio, ris xarjze? Tavadve gipasuxebT, Cveni da Cveni Svilebis xarjze. aWara saakaSvilma gayida, baTumi ki Tavis safaSod moawyo. sakuTar gasarTob centrad aqcia da Turqebis mona gagvxada saqarTveloSic da TurqeTSic.
– abaSiZis droindeli kadrebi dRes mravlad arian `ocnebis~ xelisuflebaSi. rogor fiqrobT, ratom ar ayeneben misi samSobloSi dabrunebis sakiTxs dRis wesrigSi yofili Tanagundelebi? aWaris 80 wlis yofili lideris isev eSiniaT?
– dRes ucxoeTidan rom `efereba~ aWarlebs saakaSvili, misTvis Tavis droze abaSiZis savarZlis memed abaSiZis Zeglze dawva ar unda epatiebinaT. memed abaSiZe didi qarTveli, gmiri iyo, romelmac gamorCeuli wvlili Seitana, TanamoazreebTan da TanamebrZolebTan erTad, aWaris dedasamSoblosTan dabrunebaSi. swored maSin unda damdgariyvnen aWarlebi fexze da gaeyaraT `nacebi~. memed abaSiZis Zeglic sawveTurSi dadges. arc mis yofil Tanagundelebs yofniT gambedaoba, aslanis samSobloSi dabrunebis sakiTxi daayenon. dResac eSiniaT misi, rom Tu Camova, raRac Seicvleba regionis politikur cxovrebaSi. aslan abaSiZe gamorCeuli lideri iyo, ar emorCileboda centralur xelisuflebas, arc dedaqalaqidan Camosul Cinovniks gamoedevneboda kudSi, ise rogorc dRes dasdeven. es dResac aSinebT, Torem 80 wlis aslani ra safrTxes unda warmoadgendes.
– batono Tamaz, ar miTxraT, mogwondaT, Coloqi Caketili rom iyo…
– Tavis droze rusuli bazis teqnika Coloqs iqiT gaitanes da amas samxedro wvrTnebi daarqves. realurad, es `mxedrionisTvis~ gaakeTes – afxazeTidan mobrunebulebma aslans rom daurekes – movdivarT da dagvxvdio. aslanma dapirispirebis Tavidan asacileblad Zalis demonstrireba gaakeTa. swored aqedan gaCnda Coloqis administraciuli sazRvari. 1996 wlidan, geTanxmebiT, amazrzeni iyo Coloqis sazRvari, magram abaSiZe Tvlida, rom es regionis simSvidisa da stabilurobis garanti iyo.
