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zaza saraliZem da malxaz maCalikaSvilma taim-auti aiRes da saprotesto aqciebi ramdenime dRiT Sewyvites, xelisuflebas ki damatebiTi dro misces wamoyenebuli moTxovnebis dasakmayofileblad
saprotesto aqciebs mxars arasruli opoziciuri speqtri uWerda, gansakuTrebuli aqtiurobiT `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ gamoirCeoda. marTalia, saprotesto muxti dedaqalaqSi droebiT ganelebulia, Tumca sazogadoebis didi nawili fiqrobs, rom `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ situaciis xelovnurad eskalacias Seecdeba.
rogor ganviTardeba uaxloes periodSi movlenebi da wava Tu ara xelisufleba daTmobaze, amas dro gviCvenebs. `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ misamarTiT gavrcelebul kiTxvebze ki regionis sakanonmdeblo organos warmomadgeneli, deputati asmaT diasamiZe upasuxebs.
– qalbatono asmaT, mosaxleobis mniSvnelovani nawili fiqrobs, rom `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ zaza saraliZes politikuri miznebisTvis iyenebs.
– guli mtkiva, rom adamianebma ver gaiTavises Svilmkvdari mamis tkivili. Tu movlenebs mivyvebiT da gavixsenebT mis gancxadebebs, Tavidanve ambobda – ar aqvs mniSvneloba, romeli partia TanaugrZnobda da daexmareboda. Sesabamisad, mmarTvel gunds yvelaze didi Sansi hqonda misuliyo, gverdiT dadgomoda, gamoZieba swori mimarTulebiT waremarTa da Tavidan aecilebina `Tavis tkivili~. `qarTuli ocneba~ CixSia da gamosavals eZebs. rac Seexeba `nacionaluri moZraobis~ procesebSi Tanamonawileobas, imTaviTve vTqviT, aranairi partiuli mikerZoeba, partiis xelmZRvanelebis gamosvla ar iqneboda. Cven mxolod TanagrZnobas gamovucxadebdiT zaza saraliZes da davexmarebodiT sxvadasxva uwyebasTan urTierTobaSi. vfiqrob, rom es gavakeTeT kidec. rac Seexeba Svilmkvdari mamis politikuri miznebisTvis gamoyenebas, `nacionalur moZraobas~ zaza saraliZe amisTvis namdvilad ar sWirdeba, xalxi isedac gabrazebulia xelisuflebaze. mmarTvel gunds bumerangiviT moubrunda ukan is yofa, sadamdec miiyvana xalxi umuSevrobiT, gaufasurebuli erovnuli valutiT, gaZvirebuli gadasaxadebiT, gazrdili fasebiT, SimSiliT da sxva. xelisuflebam icis, rom mTavari opoziciuri Zala `nacionaluri moZraobaa~, amitom advilia Cvenze yvelafris gadmobraleba. `qarTuli ocneba~ 6 welia xelisuflebaSia da mudmivad wina xelisuflebis 9-wlian mmarTvelobaze isaubro, rbilad rom vTqva, uxerxulic kia. STabeWdileba mrCeba, `qarTulma ocnebam~ dRemde ver gaiTavisa, xelisuflebaSi rom aris. ratomRac daaviwydaT, opoziciaSi yofnis dros ras akeTebdnen. Cven vcdilobT xalxis saTqmeli xelisuflebamde mivitanoT da viyoT Suamavali maT Soris, radgan igi mosaxleobasTan ar laparakobs. zaza saraliZes Tavisi gasaWiric eyofa da yvela, pozicia Tu opozicia, mas unda daexmaros.
– imasac amboben, politikis gareSe rom damdgariyo `nacionaluri moZraoba~ Svilmkvdari mamis gverdiT, misasalmebelic ki iqneboda, magram sazogadoeba svams kiTxvebs, partiuli liderebi, romlebic dRes zaza saraliZis gverdiT dganan, sad iyvnen maSin, roca Tundac baTumeli serJanti roin SavaZe rom mokles an ratom duman dResac?
– mesmis Tqveni SekiTxvis arsi. Tu paralelebs gavavlebT, zustad analogiuri mdgomareobaa dResac. Tu maSin `nacionalurma moZraobam~ Secdomebi dauSva da amas vaRiarebT kidec, xalxma partias `ara~ uTxra, wavida kidec xelisuflebidan, `qarTul ocnebas~ ki Sansi hqonda, gamoeZiebina Taroze Semodebuli yvela saqme. gamodis, 6 wlis ganmavlobaSi axalma xelisuflebam Zvelis Secdomebze veraferi iswavla. miuxedavad imisa, rom wina xelisuflebis dros bevri ram gakeTda, Cven mivxvdiT da vaRiarebT, rom iyo Secdomebic, magram dRes aqciebze uamravi SaviT mosili qali modioda da zaza saraliZes madlobas eubneboda misi SeupovrobiT stimulis micemisTvis. sazogadoebaSi nihilizmia, rom araferi Seicvleba, magram zaza saraliZem maT imedi Causaxa, rom SeiZleba samarTali ipovon.
– faqts, rom xelisuflebam Secdoma dauSva, versad gaveqceviT, magram Tqven Tu gaxsendebaT `nacionaluri moZraobis~ xelisuflebaSi yofnisas msgavsi gaxmaurebuli saqmeebis dros gadamdgari maRalCinosnebi…
– minda gagaxsenoT is adamianebi, romlebic dRes xelisuflebaSi arian, `nacionaluri~ mmarTvelobis periodSi ki opoziciaSi iyvnen. ratom ar iTxovdnen, Tu saWiro iyo, maRali Tanamdebobis pirebis gadadgomas?
– iTxovdnen kidec da gamosvlebic iyo, Tumca reJimis ara mxolod opozicias eSinoda…
– rogor fiqrobT, dRes ar eSiniaT? `qarTuli ocneba~ 6 welia xelisuflebaSia da am xnis ganmavlobaSi, gausaZlisi yofis miuxedavad, veravin SeZlo quCaSi gamosvla. meti ra vTqva, roca saraliZe gverdiT dgomas iTxovda, biZinas Caqvidan xeebi gadahqonda.
– xeebis gadatana `nacionaluri moZraobis~ usayvarlesi Temaa…
– adamianuri damokidebuleba gamoCnda, TiTqos Svilmkvdari mamis wuxili biZina ivaniSvils ar aRelvebda. xeebis gadatanas saxelmwifo resursi emsaxureba da TiTqos sxva saqme qveyanaSi araa sakeTebeli. ministr wulukianis gancxadebac, rom quCaSi es saqme ar gadawydeboda, dacinva iyo da sxva araferi. zaza saraliZe 6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi ixveweboda Sexvedras, magram samarTali versad ipova, amitom mimarTa ukidures zomebs. vfiqrob, xelisuflebas xels aZlevs, daaSantaJos opozicia da xalxis gaRizianebac gadaabralos – es ar gamouvaT. gavida 6 weli, aRaraa `nacionaluri moZraoba~ xelisuflebaSi. `qarTuli ocnebis~ xelSi yvela resursi iyo, gamoeZiebinaT gaxmaurebuli saqmeebi, daesajaT damnaSaveebi. `qarTuli ocnebis~ begraundi kargad gvaxsovs – xelisuflebaSi sazogadoebis maRali ndobiT movidnen, Tumca ndoba ver gaamarTles. saerTaSoriso organizaciebis kvlevebic adasturebs, rom xalxi sagrZnoblad gaRizianebulia. xalxis xma ar esmis xelisuflebas, rac karg Sedegamde ar migviyvans. saprotesto talRa ara mgonia advilad Cacxres.
– amboben imasac, rom `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ xelisuflebas TavianT daSvebul Secdomebze Txovs pasuxs. saubrobT sistemaze, romelic swored Tqveni xelisuflebaSi yofnis dros Seiqmna, sadac dRemde saakaSvilis droindeli kadrebi arian. aviRoT Tundac saraliZis saqmis prokurori zviad fxakaZe, romelic gaxmaurebuli saqmis – `enveris~ prokurori iyo. Tu maSin endoboda mas `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~, dRes ratomRa ucxadebT undoblobas?
– saqmec isaa, roca opoziciaSi iyo `qarTuli ocneba~, mudmivad apelirebda, rom undoblobas ucxadebda sistemas, magram xelisuflebaSi mosvlis Semdeg aRmoCnda, rom swored is adamianebi, romlebsac ar endobodnen, gverdiT daiyenes. saxel-gvarebs aRar CamovTvli, isedac xSirad axseneben. rasac adre `nacionalur moZraobas~ edavebodnen, axla Tavad akeTeben. dRevandeli xelisufleba winasgan arafriT gansxvavdeba. sazogadoeba daRlilia gamosvlebiT, erTmaneTze gadabralebiT da stabiluroba surs. `qarTuli ocnebis~ yvelaze didi Secdoma is aris, rom Cvens Secdomebze ver iswavles, is adamianebi hyavT gverdiT da marTvis sadaveebic ki Caabares, romlebic yvelaze metad ar moswondaT opoziciaSi yofnis dros. ise, gamocdilebidan getyviT, 5 wlis Semdeg xelisufleba xiblSi vardeba da `qarTuli ocnebis~ xibli kargad gamoCnda. amitom, xelisuflebaSi axali Zala, axali saxeebi unda movidnen.
– `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ axal Zalad unda CaiTvalos?!
– geTanxmebiT, axal ZalaSi partiis Zvel saxeebs ar vgulisxmob. vsaubrob adamianebze, romlebmac wlebis ganmavlobaSi codna da gamocdileba SeiZines. uamravi axalgazrdaa qveynis SigniT da mis gareTac. `nacionalur moZraobas~ resursi aqvs partiuli gamocdilebiT, magram ara Zveli saxeebiT. Secdomebis gaanalizebiT SegviZlia rCeva mivceT axal Zalas, movides da marTos qveyana, rac swori strategiaa.
– saprotesto aqciebi droebiT Sewyda, Tumca sazogadoeba fiqrobs, rom `nacionaluri moZraoba~, romlis gverdiT mxolod misi sateliti partiebi dganan da ara sruli opoziciuri speqtri, situaciis xelovnur eskalacias moaxdens.
– makvirvebs aseTi mosazreba, rogor unda moxdes xelovnuri eskalacia? ar gamova xalxi, aqciac ar gaimarTeba. modiT, baTumis magaliTze vTqvaT: amdeni xelgawvdili adamiani me ar maxsovs. mapatieT da, arc nagvis urnebTan momlodine adamianebi gvyolia amdeni. socialurad daucvelebze, SeWirvebul mravalSvilian ojaxebze aRarafers vambob. amitom, nu gadaabraleben opozicias, rom `nacionaluri moZraoba~ situaciis xelovnurad gamwvavebas cdilobs.
– Tqveni azriT, rogor unda miiRos samarTaldamcavebma arasrulwlovanebisgan Cvenebebi, roca isini dumilis uflebas iyeneben? im cnobili meTodebiT xom ara, rogoric wina xelisuflebis dros iyo?
– arc erTi kiTxva ar acda yofil xelisuflebas…
– es Cemi subieqturi mosazreba ar aris, qalbatono asmaT. Jurnalisti valdebulia sazogadoebaSi arsebuli kiTxvebiT mogmarToT.
– yoCaR `nacionalur moZraobas~, dRemde rom axsovT. aseTi Zlieri partia didi xania ar gvyolia da arc gveyoleba, radgan radarebidan bevri partia gaqra da Cven 6 wlis Semdegac aqtualurebi varT da 10 wlis Semdegac ase viqnebiT, raSic Tavisi uniaTobiT `qarTuli ocneba~ gvexmareba. arasrulwlovanebisgan ki ara, srulwlovanebisgan ver iReben Cvenebas. saqmis detalebSi Rrmad ar var Caxeduli da arc dargis specialisti var, magram nuTu aseTi uniaToebi arian, rom ar ician, rogor miiRon Cvenebebi? Zaladobis momxre ar var, magram fsiqologiurad ise unda moamzadon arasrulwlovnebi, rom simarTle Tqvan. ise, Tu saqmis gamoZiebis survili aqvT, yvela kiTxvaze miiReben pasuxebs.