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28 oqtombers saqarTvelo rigiT mexuTe prezidents pirdapiri wesiT bolojer airCevs. marTalia, arCevnebamde arcTu ise didi dro rCeba, magram saboloo gadawyvetileba, Tu vis dauWers mxars mmarTveli gundi, am etapze ucnobia. mimdinare
procesebis politikuri Sefaseba samarTlis doqtors, bsu-is iuridiuli fakultetis asocirebul profesors, konstitucionalist malxaz nakaSiZes vTxoveT
– batono malxaz, cnobilia saprezidento arCevnebis TariRi, Tumca am dromde ver Camoyalibda mmarTveli gundi – sakuTari kandidati daasaxelon, damoukidebel kandidats dauWiron mxari Tu asparezi opozicias dauTmon. ra aris amis mizezi?
– Cemi azriT, imas, rasac mmarTvel partiaSi acxadeben, araferi aqvs saerTo Tanamedrove demokratiul mmarTvelobasTan. mxedvelobaSi maqvs mmarTveli partiis Tavmjdomaris da sxva liderebis gancxadeba, rom maT, SesaZloa, kandidati ar hyavdeT, damoukidebel kandidats dauWiron mxari an saerTod opoziciam gadainawilos es Tanamdeboba. es biZina ivaniSvilis sityvebia. ar meguleba msoflioSi demokratiuli saxelmwifo, sadac mmarTveli partia uars ityvis xelisuflebisaTvis brZolaze, gaiyvanos Tavisi kandidati, miuxedavad Semcirebuli uflebamosilebebisa, saxelmwifos meTauris umaRles politikur Tanamdebobaze. aqve unda gavixsenoT margvelaSvilis prezidentobis periodi, roca is gaemijna mmarTvel partias da nebismieri misi gansxvavebuli gadawyvetileba seriozuli kritikis sagani xdeboda `qarTuli ocnebis~ mxridan, rogori Seteva mimdinareobda mis mimarT, xSirad pirovnulad Seuracxmyofel xasiaTsac ki iRebda es kampania. dRes ki uceb aRmoCnda, rom mmarTvel partias surs damoukidebel kandidats dauWiros mxari an opoziciis kandidati ixilos am postze. Tu prezidenti opoziciis kandidati gaxdeba, es iqneba kargi qarTuli demokratiisaTvis da demokratiul qveynebSi es Cveulebrivi ambavia, magram mmarTveli gundi rogor miesalmeba movlenebis aseT ganviTarebas, rasac bolo 5 weli kategoriulad ewinaaRmdegeboda? realurad ki mmarTvel partiaSi xvdebian, rom maT mimarT ndoba sazogadoebaSi Zalian dabalia, kanidats ver arCeven da surT gaiTamaSon, TiTqos damoukidebel kandidats dauWeren mxars, sinamdvileSi es kandidati iqneba `qarTuli ocnebis~ mxardaWeriT aRWurvili.
– im saprezidento kandidatebis Sansebs rogor SeafasebT, romlebsac ukve oficialurad SeuZliaT saarCevno maraTonSi monawileoba?
– kvlevebi aCvenebs, rom saqarTveloSi politikuri partiebis mimarT ndoba dabalia. garda amisa, Zalian bevri adamiani SeiZleba ar mivides arCevnebze. saerTod, saprezidento arCevnebi aranormalurad mimdinareobs. arCevnebis TariRi gamocxadda Zalian dagvianebiT, kandidatebma saarCevno kampania axlaxan daiwyes, zogierT maTgans ki jer arc dauwyia. Cemi azriT, `qarTuli ocneba~ margvelaSvilTan dapirispirebis gamo bolo 5 weli saprezidento institutis mizanmimarTul diskreditacias eweoda. prezidentis institutis mimarT moqalaqeTa ganwyobebze imoqmeda, ra Tqma unda, giorgi margvelaSvilis saqmianobamac. xalxi fiqrobs, rom Tu prezidenti marTlac aseTi uufleboa da arafris gadamwyveti, ratom unda mivides arCevnebze? sinamdvileSi es ase ar aris. me, rogorc am sferos specialists, SemiZlia giTxraT, rom evropis demokratiul saxelmwifoebSi prezidentis instituti mniSvnelovan rols asrulebs qveynis cxovrebaSi, miuxedavad imisa, Tu rogori uflebamosilebebiT sargeblobs igi. vfiqrob, opoziciis kanidatebi mainc araTanabar mdgomareobaSi arian mmarTvel partiasTan SedarebiT, Tu gaviTvaliswinebT, ra administraciul da finansur resurss flobs `qarTuli ocneba~. Tu `ocneba~ daayenebs sakuTar, an mxars dauWers e.w. damoukidebel kandidats, gamoiyenebs sxvadasxva maqinacias amomrCevlebze zemoqmedebisaTvis, Seecdeba gaiyvanos Tavisi kandidati. opoziciis kanidatebisaTvis mniSvnelovani iqneba, rac SeiZleba meti amomrCeveli mivides arCevnebze da gamoxatos Tavisi mxardaWera.
– dadebs Tu ara salome zurabiSvilze fsons biZina ivaniSvili? rogorc eqsperti gia xuxaSvili acxadebs, zurabiSvils wina arCevnebSic surda, ivaniSvils daesaxelebina igi saprezidento kandidatad da daxmarebac sTxova Turme xuxaSvils…
– yvela xvdeba, rom salome zurabiSvili aranairi damoukidebeli kandidati ar aris. gavi-xsenoT vin aris da ra politikuri gamocdileba aqvs mas saqarTveloSi. is iyo saakaSvilis mTavrobis sagareo saqmeTa ministri, Semdeg, roca gadaayenes Tanamdebobidan, Seqmna politikuri partia. dRes aravis axsovs am partiis dasaxeleba, partias ar hqonia aranairi seriozuli mxardaWera arc erT arCevnebSi. Semdeg zurabiSvilma datova saqarTvelo da wavida sazRvargareT isev diplomatiur samsaxurSi. 2013 welsac surda mas prezidentoba, Tumca saarCevno komisiam misi kandidatura ar daaregistrira ormagi moqalaqeobis gamo. 2016 wlis saparlamento arCevnebSi zurabiSvilma kenWi iyara rogorc e.w. damoukidebelma kandidatma, Tumca, realurad, parlamentis wevri gaxda `qarTuli ocnebis~ mxardaWeriT – mmarTveli partiis mxardaWeris gareSe parlamentis wevri ver gaxdeboda. parlamentSi is yovelTvis `qarTuli ocnebis~ mxardaWeriT gamoirCeoda. rogor aris salome zurabiSvili damoukidebeli kandidati an ratom unda dauWiros mxari mas amomrCevelma? gamoiTqva aseTi mosazreba, magram ar gamovricxav, rom sabolood, saerTod ar gaakeTos mmarTvelma partiam aqcenti mis kandidaturaze. garda amisa, CemTvis piradad miuRebelia misi kandidatura saqarTvelos prezidentis postze mis mier saqarTvelo-ruseTis omis dros, aseve SemdegSi gakeTebuli gancxadebebisa da poziciebis gamo.
– ratom ar Sedga giorgi margvelaSvilsa da daviT usufaSvils Soris TanamSromloba saprezidento arCevnebTan dakavSirebiT?
– simarTle giTxraT, kargad ver gavigeT, ra iyo am kampaniis mizani, albaT, momavali saparlamento arCevnebisTvis TanamSromloba. Tumca prezident margvelaSvils jer ar ganucxadebia Tavisi gegmebis Sesaxeb. unda davelodoT mis gancxadebas da ufro naTeli gaxdeba am Sexvedrebis mizani.
– ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebs margvelaSvili da mosinjavs Tu ara Zalebs kidev erTxel prezidentis savarZlis dasakaveblad?
– Tu margvelaSvilis warsulSi gakeTebul gancxadebebs gavixsenebT, mas aqvs survili miiRos saprezidento arCevnebSi monawileoba. rogorc Cans, is bolomde akvirdeba kandidatebs da ar aris gamoricxuli, mogvianebiT gamoacxados, rom monawileobs arCevnebSi.
– batono malxaz, regionis politikur situaciasac SevexoT. ratom gadaifiqra giorgi margvelaSvilma demokratiobanas TamaSi da opoziciis kandidati ar daasaxela mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris postze? garigeba Sedga mas da mmarTvel gunds Soris?
– aWaris avtonomiuri respublikis mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris SerCevaSi prezidenti monawileobs rogorc saxelmwifos meTauri, aWaris avtonomiuri respublikis umaRles sabWosTan erTad. kargad unda gaviazroT, rom aWaris avtonomiuri respublikis mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris Tanamdeboba aris regionis umaRlesi politikuri Tanamdeboba. avtonomiuri respublikis mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris Tanamdebobaze adamianis gamweseba unda iyos politikis Sedegi, es adamiani unda iyos politikosi da qmnides regionis politikas avtonomiuri respublikis umaRles politikur organosTan – umaRles sabWosTan erTad. samwuxarod, umaRles sabWos arafers ekiTxebian da sadRac, saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi iReben gadawyvetilebas aq vin gamoagzavnon, xolo umaRlesi sabWo mxolod formalurad adasturebs am process da es ar aris normaluri. prezidentma Tavad daiwyo es procesi da gvaxsovs, maRali tribunidan dasva kiTxva, Tu ratom gadadga aWaris avtonomiuri respublikis mTavrobis Tavmjdomare zurab pataraZe. umaRles sabWos ar hqonia SekiTxva, ratom gadadga avtonomiuri respublikis ekonomikisaTvis mniSvnelovan turistul sezonze pataraZis mTavroba. margvelaSvili Camovida baTumSi da ganacxada, rom ganixilavs kandidaturebs, romelic warmodgenili iqneba politikuri jgufebis mier, xolo Semdeg miiRo sxva gadawyvetileba. vfiqrob, is upasuxismgeblod moiqca da Tavidanve SeeZlo daesaxelebina `qarTuli ocnebis~ kandidati, Tu aseTi gegma hqonda. ar aris gamoricxuli, masze raime zewola ganxorcielda an garigebebs hqonda adgili. vfiqrob, es garkveuli periodis Semdeg naTeli gaxdeba.
– opoziciam gaaJRera, rom arCil xabaZis proteJea Tornike riJvaZe, amas arc mmarTveli gundi uaryofs. aseTi gavlena aqvs mTavrobis yofil Tavmjdomares, rom regionSi dResac bevr rames Tavad wyvets?
– arCil xabaZe aris biZina ivaniSvilis ndobiT aRWurvili piri da davalebebis Semsrulebeli. rogorc Cans, mas garkveuli miTiTebebi misca aWaraSi `qarTuli ocnebis~ damfuZnebelma.
– Tornike riJvaZem mTavrobis sxdomebis daxurvis gadawyvetileba miiRo. kargia Tu cudi axali Tavmjdomaris gadawyvetileba? ra SeiZleba iyos amaSi dadebiTi da ra – uaryofiTi?
– Cemi azriT, mniSvnelovania reglamenti, formaluri wesebi. mTavrobis sxdoma SeiZleba iyos daxuruli, Tumca pirvelive sxdomis daxurva, roca arsebobda maRali sazogadoebrivi interesi, iyo Secdoma. aWaris avtonomiuri respublikis xelisuflebis organoebSi isedac bevri ram aris daxuruli da aqcenti unda gakeTdes gamWvirvalobasa da Ria mmarTvelobaze.
– ratom Secvales aWaraSi mxolod ori ministri?
– vfiqrob, es, swored, Sedegia im arajansaRi midgomisa, razedac zemoT mogaxseneT. aWaris mTavrobis formireba aris politikuri procesi, sadac mkafiod unda vicodeT, Tu vin modis mTavrobis saTaveSi, ra gundi, ra programiT da raze iqneba igi pasuxismgebeli. dRes rac miviReT, faqtobrivad, aris teqnokrati mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris gamweseba Tanamdebobaze. darwmunebuli var, baton Tornikes eqneboda survili, Seecvala mTeli ministrTa kabineti, Tumca es ar aris mxolod misi gadasawyveti da Tanamdebobebi SeinarCunes im ministrebma, romlebsac hyavdaT mfarvelebi politikur wreebSi.
– nino gvenetaZis gadawyvetilebaze ras fiqrobT da ramdenad realuria uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjomaris Tanamdebobidan misi gadadgomis oficialuri versia?
– vfiqrob, es aris gamoxatuleba im Rrma krizisisa, rac arsebobs saqarTvelos sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi. arc wina da arc dRevandel xelisuflebas realurad ar surs, sasamarTlo iyos damoukidebeli. nino gvenetaZem ver gamoiCina principuloba verc erT mniSvnelovan sakiTxze sasamarTlo xelisuflebis reformirebis sferoSi. erTxel ganacxada, rom masze zewola xorcieldeboda, magram ar gvaxsovs misi raime Semtevi, mebrZoli pozicia sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi cvlilebebisaTvis, rasac sazogadoebis mxardaWerac eqneboda. vfiqrob, is moeqca mmarTveli gundisa da sasamarTlo sistemaSi arsebuli calkeuli jgufebis gavlenis qveS da sabolood gadaayenes.
