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2012 weli Cveni qveynis istoriaSi gardamaval periodad Caiwera. swored am dros `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ xalxma xelisuflebidan gauSva da `qarTul ocnebas~ gadaabara marTvis sadaveebi. gardamaval periodSi Cvens regionSi gaCnda `ocnebis qalaqi~. wlebis ganmavlobaSi aramxolod yofili 25-e da 53-e samxedro batalionebis teritoriaze, TviTneburad sxva adgilebSic Sesaxldnen socialurad daucveli, mravalSviliani Tu sxva problemebis mqone ojaxebi. samwuxarod, xelisuflebam dRemde ver gadaWra es problema da asobiT ojaxi gausaZlis yofaSi agrZelebs cxovrebas.
Tamamad SeiZleba iTqvas, rom 2012 wlis Semdeg bevrma wyalma Caiara… regionsac bolo eqvsi wlis ganmavlobaSi rigiT mesame mTavrobis Tavmjdomare hyavs. `ocnebis qalaqSi~ mcxovrebTa udidesi survilis miuxedavad, samwuxarod, arc arCil xabaZem da arc zurab pataraZem maTTan Sexvedra ar isurva, an ver moaxerxa. Tornike riJvaZe regionis pirveli mTavrobis Tavmjdomare aRmoCnda, romelic e.w. muyaos qalaqSi mivida. mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris `ocnebis qalaqSi~ misvlis Taobaze Cven vesaubreT TviTneburad Sesaxlebulebis mxridan liderad monaTlul marina beriZes, romelmac Tornike riJvaZes stumrobisTvis madloba sajarod gadauxada, Tumca, TvalSisacemi iyo erTi faqti – mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris vizits ar eswreboda uflebadamcveli Tamaz bakuriZe, romelic yvelasTvis cnobilia, rogor udgas gverdiT TviTneburad Sesaxlebulebs da erTgvari Suamavalic ki aris xalxsa da xelisuflebas Soris. Tamaz bakuriZem CvenTan saubrisas aRniSna, rom igi mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris `ocnebis qalaqSi~ stumrobis Taobaze informirebuli iyo, Tumca im droisTvis qalaqSi ar imyofeboda da Sesabamisad, Tornike riJvaZesTan erTad verc iq misvla moaxerxa, magram ras fiqrobs am faqtTan dakavSirebiT da raSi xedavs problemis gadaWris gzebs, dRes CvenTan isaubrebs.
– batono Tamaz, Tornike riJvaZe mTavrobis Tavmjdomareebs Soris pirveli aRmoCnda, vinc yovelgvari aJiotaJisa da piaris gareSe mivida `ocnebis qalaqSi~. mis winamorbedebs ra uSlidaT xels am adamianebTan urTierTobaSi?
– bunebrivia, zogs aRizianebs an siamovnebs, roca sxvadasxva dros mediiT `ocnebis qalaqzea~ saubari, arada, amaze ilaparakeben iqamde, vidre problema ar mogvardeba. es aris masiuri dasaxleba TviTneburad Sesaxlebulebis, erTi konkretuli adgili aWa-ris regionSi, romelSic warmodgenilia krebuli yvela im problemis, rac ki arsebobs mosaxleobaSi – mravalSvilianebis, socialurad daucvelebis, martoxelebis, omis veteranebisa da sxva. `ocnebis qalaqSi~ mobinadreTa garda, kidev mravali ojaxia msgavsi problemebiT, romlebic regionSi sxvadasxva adgilas arian Sesaxlebulebi, Tumca ara ise masiurad, rogorc yofili
25-e da 53-e batalionebis teritoriaze. `ocnebis qalaqis~ problemis gadaWris dRec dadgeba, Semdeg, ukve danarCen obieqtze Sesaxlebulebi, igive problemebis mqone ojaxebi xmas aimaRleben. amitom veubnebi xolme mTavrobas, Tu vfiqrobT `ocnebis qalaqis~ problemis mogvarebaze, ar unda dagvaviwydes danarCeni TviTneburad Sesaxlebuli ojaxebi, romlebsac, biznesis TvalsazrisiT, saintereso adgilebi aqvT dakavebuli. kargi iqneba xelisuflebam aseTi teritoriebi gamoaTavisuflos da Tavi mouyaros yvelas erTad `ocnebis qalaqSi~. es im SemTxvevaSia SesaZlebeli, Tu xelisufleba mravalsarTulian korpusebs aaSenebs. ramdenadac CemTvis cnobilia, azrTa sxvadasxvaobaa rogorc `ocnebis qalaqSi~, ise mTavrobaSi. zogi ambobs, rom dakavebuli farTebis dakanonebaa gamosavali. Tu `ocnebis qalaqs~ aviRebT, farTebis dakanoneba im ojaxebisTvis iqneba gamosavali, romlebmac moaxerxes da xis ficrulebis nacvlad qvis saxlebi aaSenes. ZiriTadad, `ocnebis qalaqSi~ ojaxebi imis gamo dasaxldnen, rom saarsebo wyaro ar hqondaT. iSromes da roca finansurad gaZlierdnen, cxovrebis pirobebic gaiumjobeses, rac bunebrivia, radgan qoxebSi cxovreba marTlac, urTulesia. am kategoriis adamianebs farTebis dakanoneba awyobT, magram vinc isev qoxSi cxovrobs – ara. amitom, ar gamova erT nawils daukanono, danarCens – ara, radgan es damatebiT problemebs Seqmnis SemdgomSi. davuSvaT da ase moxda, maSin vsvam kiTxvas, rogor moawesrigebs iq xelisufleba infrastruqturas? viciT, rom ar aris gazi, wyali, deni, gare ganaTeba, kanalizacia da gza. SeiZleba xelisuflebaSi viRac fiqrobs – davukanonebT farTebs da amiT problemas gadavWriTo. merwmuneT, xalxi ar moSordeba da meti siZnelis winaSe dadgeba saxelmwifo. mesmis, rom regionis biujeti `ocnebis qalaqis~ problemis gadaWras ver gawvdeba, magram raki is adgili samrewvelo TavalsazrisiT sainteresoa, gamosavali SesaZlebelia moiZebnos.
– yofili 25-e batalionis teritoria xom `energo-pros~ sakuTrebaa…
– vsaubrob 53-e batalionis teritoriaze, biznesis daintereseba SesaZlebelia. 16 heqtarze meti farTobia, aqedan 5-6 eyofa problemis gadaWras. danarCeni teritoria biznesmenma ganaviTaros Tavisi survilis mixedviT. danamdvilebiT vici, rom aseTi dainteresebuli biznesmenebi iyvnen xabaZe-ermakovis dros. am ukanasknels, qalaqis maSindel mersac ki Sexvdnen. erT-erTi biznesmeni mzad iyo iq mcxovrebi ojaxebi sacxovrebeli farTebiT daekmayofilebina, sanacvlod ki teritoria simbolur fasad gadaecaT misTvis. me ar veswrebodi am Sexvedras, magram qarTuli mxaris warmomadgenelma miTxra, qalaqis merma investors amaze uari uTxrao. Tu biznesmeni miwas iyidis, is ukve teritoriaze mcxovreblebis problemebis gadaWras ar moisurvebs. vfiqrob, saxelmwifom simbolur fasad unda gadasces dainteresebul pirs farTi. viRacam mTavrobaSi aucileblad unda gadadgas es nabiji da gadawyvetileba miiRos.
– batono Tamaz, vinc ver SeiWra TviTneburad saxelmwifos kuTvnil teritoriaze, aseTebma ra daaSaves? Tu `ocnebis qalaqis~ problema gadawydeba, ar fiqrobT, rom aseTi dasaxlebebi isev da isev gaCndeba sxva teritoriebze?
– xSirad ismis kiTxva – ra vuyoT im ojaxebs, romlebmac Tavis droze kanoni ar daarRvies, ar SeiWrnen saxelmwifos kuTvnil teritoriaze da ris vai-vaglaxiT wlebia qiriT cxovroben. maTi am gaWirvebaSi yofna saxelmwifos bralia, 2012 wels windaxeduleba ar gamoiCina. gasagebia, `nacionaluri moZraoba~ mimavali iyo da Tvali daxuWa, magram `qarTul ocnebas~ unda gaexila farTod da gaekontrolebina situacia… Tu saxelmwifo Tvlis, rom ar unda iyvnen es adamianebi iq, ras elodeba? amas winaT erT-erTi maRalCinosani interviuSi `ocnebis qalaqTan~ dakavSirebiT ambobda – Cven moviqceviT kanonis Sesabamisad. kanonis Sesabamisad dResac SeuZlia saxelmwifos iq Sesaxlebulebi sisxlis samarTlis damnaSaveebad CaTvalos, vinaidan marTlsawinaaRmdegod miiTvises da daikaves saxelmwifo sakuTreba, kanonis Tanaxmad, es adamianebi pasuxisgebaSi SeiZleba miscen… verc wina mTavrobisgan gavigeT da arc dRes viciT, vis ekuTvnis sacxovrebeli farTebi da vis – ara, vis statuss aRiarebs saxelmwifo da visas – ara. mxolod is gansxvavebaa, rom moqmedi Tavmjdomare Tornike riJvaZe mediis gareSe mivida iq, Semoiara teritoria da sakuTari TvaliT naxa adamianebis mdgomareoba.
– rogor fiqrobT, ra mizniT mivida iq batoni Tornike da Tqven ratom ar eswrebodiT mis vizits `ocnebis qalaqSi~?
– me ver ganvsazRvrav mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris dRis wesrigs da verc imas, visTan erTad miva igi ama Tu im adgilas. Tu Tqveni kiTxva gamomdinareobs iqidan, rom wlebis ganmavlobaSi `ocnebis qalaqis~ mcxovrebTa gverdiT vdgavar da Tavmjdomaris mxridan erTgvari Jesti iqneboda, masTan erTad rom vyofiliyavi. getyviT, damirekes da miTxres, baton Tornikes TqvenTan erTad surs iq misvlao, magram qalaqSi ar viyavi, amitom misvlac ver movaxerxe, samagierod, qalbatonma marina beriZem, romelic CemTan erTad wlebia mosaxleobis gverdiT dgas, megzuroba gauwia mas. amboben, asjer gagonils erTxel nanaxi jobia, yvela wina mTavrobis Tavmjdomarem iq arsebuli mdgomareoba gadmocemiT icoda. vfiqrob, iq arsebuli realobis swored sakuTari TvaliT naxva surda baton Tornikes. mas naTqvami aqvs – `ocnebis qalaqi~ Cveni xelisuflebis Rirsebis sakiTxia. raki es Tqva, imeds vitoveb, Rirseuladac moeqceva iq mcxovrebT. aTvlis wertili unda movniSnoT da raRac meqanizmi unda SeimuSaos mTavrobam am problemis erTxel da samudamod gadasaWrelad. ar SeiZleba wlebis ganmavlobaSi vilaparakoT am mougvarebel problemaze.
– modiT, wina Tavmjdomareebis Temas davubrundeT, ras ityviT, ratom ar midiodnen isini `ocnebis qalaqSi~?
– zurab pataraZe axali mosuli rom iyo postze, ipoTekarebis aqcias vmarTavdiT mTavrobis saxlTan. Tavad movida da miTxra – didi gamocdileba gaqvT yvela problemaze, xalxTan urTierTobac iciT da minda viTanamSromloTo. Cemi mizania problemebi mogvardes da xalxis lobisti viyo xelisuflebasTan-meTqi, vuTxari. maSin isic Tqva, survili maqvs, `ocnebis qalaqSi~ TqvenTan erTad mivideo. mesiamovna misi Sexvedra, im dRes, ipoTekarebTanac, romelTa dasaxmareblad mTavrobis Tavmjdomareobis periodSi nawilobriv raRac gaakeTa kidec. `ocnebis qalaqis~ mosaxleobas vuTxari, Tavmjdomare dagvpirda aq mosvlas-meTqi. Semdeg Cems yurs mowvda, baton zurabs eSinoda xalxiso. SevuTvale kidec – sadac me viqnebi, Tqven xalxi erT zedmet sityvas ar getyviT-meTqi. CanCxaloSi arCil xabaZe rom avida, garanti gavxdi, mas mosaxleoba uxeSad ar dalaparakeboda. marTalia, batoni arCili xalxs iqidan gamoeqca, magram agresia mosaxleobisgan ar wamosula. gamgebelma tariel ebraliZem auria, xalxs uTxra – Tqven rom binebi mogceT, sofels mainc ar datovebTo. movida erTi asakovani kaci da binis gasaRebi daugdo gamgebels da ara xabaZes, magram es Jesti mTavrobis maSindelma Tavmjdomarem, amas TqvenTan vambob pirvelad, Tavisi misamarTiT miiRo, CaTvala, rom mas miugdes gasaRebi, Tavi Seuracxyofilad igrZno da misma gundma, maT Soris daviT gabaiZem, romelic maSin mTavrobis aparatSi muSaobda, datova CanCxalo. merab diasamiZem, erT-erTma aqtiurma CanCxaloelma icis, ris fasad dagvijda maSin, iq rom situacia ar gamwvavebuliyo. iyo mcdeloba, ar miecaT ezodan gasvlis saSualeba. dapirispireba moxda mTavrobis dacvasa da mosaxleobas Soris. Cven movaxerxeT mSvidobianad gamosuliyo arCil xabaZe iqidan. albaT, xalxis eSinodaT Tornike riJvaZis winamorbedebs da amitom ver midiodnen masiur dasaxlebaSi.
– rogorc Cans, baton Tornikes xalxis ar eSinia…
– ar minda naadrevi daskvnebi gavakeTo, Tumca mas xalxTan urTierTobis gamocdileba aqvs. icnobs zemomTiani aWaris mosaxleobas. aqve getyviT, igi `ocnebis qalaqSi~ mosaxleobasTan Sesaxvedrad ki ar misula (es rom ndomoda, winaswar gaafrTxilebda xalxs, Seikribebodnen da Sexvdebodnen), ubralod, imisTvis, rom sakuTari TvaliT enaxa suraTi, Tumca, vinc ki Sexvda teritoriaze, yvelas gaesaubra. albaT, momavalSi miva da xalxsac Sexvdeba.
– `ocnebis qalaqma~ drois aTvla daiwyo, ris simbolodac mTavrobis Tavmjdomares saaTi gadasces…
– iciT, rom zafxulSi daanonsebuli iyo saprotesto aqciebi, magram mTavrobis Secvlis gamo da imitomac rom, sezonurad xalxi TurqeTSi gadadis samuSaod, seqtembramde gadaido. 15 seqtembridan mosaxleoba farTomasStabian aqciebs apirebda. albaT aman ubiZga baton Tornikes Tavad misuliyo `ocnebis qalaqSi~, Tumca misi iq viziti ar niSnavs, rom saprotesto talRa Cacxra. mTavrobis axali TavmjdomarisTvis TviTneburad SesaxlebulTa problemebi axalia, magram mTavrobis aparatSi da jandacvis saministroSi yvelaferi kargad ician. jandacvis kuTxiT batoni ramaz jinWaraZe wlebia muSaobs da realuri suraTi yvelas erTad SeuZlia miawodos Tornike riJvaZes. amis Semdeg ki problemis gadaWris gzebze unda daiwyon zrunva. Tu batoni Tornikec droSi gawelavs am sakiTxs da iqamde isaubrebs problemaze, vidre axali Semcvleli ar gamoCndeba, es karg Sedegs ar mogvitans. vnaxoT, isev dro gviCvenebs rogor ganviTardeba movlenebi.