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axalgazrda, TviTnaswavli mxatvari irma surmaniZe Cveni Tanaqalaqelia. misi naxatebi ucxo ferTa
SexamebiT, adamianis sxeulebis ucnauri wyobiT da
modernistuli siTamamiT gamoirCeva
baTums bevri misi moxatuli kedeli amSvenebs da aRniSnaven kidec, rom irmas sakuTari xelwera gaaCnia, romelic aravis hgavs. mis naxatebs, Taviseburi stilis wyalobiT, maSinve icnob da imdenad didi STabeWdilebis qveS eqcevi, samudamod grCeba mexsierebaSi…
– irma, rodis daiwyeT xatva da ratom dainteresdiT am sferoTi?
– simarTle giTxraT, dRemde ar vici, ratom da rogor daviwye xatva… 18 wlisas gamiCnda survili, rom mexata da morCa… skolaSic ar miswavlia xelovneba. arc ki mifiqria, rom odesme funjs aviRebdi xelSi. ubralod, erT dRes avdeqi da daviwye xatva. mas Semdeg es Cemi cxovrebis ganuyofeli nawili gaxda…
– sakmaod axalgazrdas gewviaT warmateba, rodis gaxdiT cnobili samxatvro wreebSi?
– Cemi realuri warmateba is aris, rom uzomod bednieri var imiT, rasac vakeTeb. xSirad mifiqria, rom ar vxatavde, ramdenad uintereso iqneboda yvelaferi… bevr, Zalian saintereso proeqtSi mimiRia monawileoba, magaliTad, rogoricaa `quCis mxatvroba~ (kedlebis moxatva), `baTumoba – 2018~ (kostiumebis mxatvroba), `baTumuri ezo~ (vizualuri gaformeba). aseve viyavi miwveuli ukrainaSi plenerze. ukve Semdgar mxatvrebTan erTad vmonawileobdi festivalebSi. Cemgan didi siTamame iyo aseTi nabijis gadadgma, magram imisTvis, rom gamocdileba mimeRo, uars araferze vambobdi. yvelafers, rasac xels movkideb, pasuxismgeblobiT vekidebi da aravin, arasodes darCenila ukmayofilo Cemi muSaobiT. SemomTavazes da movxate nobelebis muzeumic. yoveli aseTi winadadeba Zalian mixaria. baTums Zalian kargi da cnobili mxatvrebi hyavs da sasiamovnod gaocebuli vrCebi, roca maTTan erTad miwevs muSaoba. es Zalian didi stimulia CemTvis. raRacas sxvebisTvisac rom akeTeb da maT uxariaT, Sen ormagad bednieri xar, ese igi, sazogadoebam migiRo.
– risi Tqma gindaT Tqveni naxatebiT?
– sxvaTa Soris, mec miCndeba sakuTar TavTan es kiTxva: ras gadmovcem, ras vambob amiT… albaT, yvelaferi Cemi qvecnobieris gamoZaxilia… bavSvobis Temas vexebi, vexebi tkivilebs, romelsac sxeuli mkarnaxobs. sxeuli aris CemTvis erT-erTi udidesi inspiracia, romelsac Cems gonebaSi warmovsaxav, oRond konturebdarRveuls da Semdeg gadmomaqvs tiloze… amiT albaT, ufro mkafiod minda gacxaddes, ras itevs sxeuli da risi Tqma unda. yvelafer yofiTze vsaubrob – SSm pirebze, usaxlkaroebze, dedebze, orsul qalebze, gaorebaze… sakuTar TavSi aRmovaCine, rom erT adamianSi uamravi adamiani cxovrobs… rom erT adamians bevrTan brZola uwevs… es aris, ase vTqvaT, Sinagani omi da yvelaferi imdenad mZimea, rom mxolod sakuTar sxeulSi ki ara, sxvebSic vxedav… Tundac TiTebis moZraobaSi, sxeulis konturi rogor dundeba… yvelafris amokiTxva SegiZlia, sxeuli saubrobs TviTon. ai, amis Tqma minda xSirad… yvelaze saocari qmnilebaa adamiani da ar SeiZleba amas ar daakvirde, ar gamosaxo, ar isaubro amaze…
– mxatvroba, rogorc Semosavlis wyaro…
– zogierTi proeqti an festivali Cveulebrivad finansdeba. magaliTad, quCis mxatvrobaSi, miuxedavad imisa, rom festivalis saxiT tardeboda, yvelam miviReT anazRaureba. saRebavebiTac uzrunvelgvyes. nobelebis muzeumis moxatvac SekveTiT iyo, ra Tqma unda, anazRaurebiT. paralelurad, skolaSi vmuSaob, bavSvebs xatvas da xelovnebis istorias vaswavli. mxolod imitom ar vmuSaob, rom Semosavali mqondes, miyvars Cemi profesia… es kidev sxva samyaroa Cems cxovrebaSi da calke gamovyofdi am yvelafers… ase vTqvaT, skolis anazRaurebiT `vaarsebeb~ Cems mxatvrobas (icinis). vinmem naxati rom SeiZinos, aseTi ram ar xdeba. ufro SekveTebze vmuSaob. TbilisSic Cavsulvar, momixatavs kedlebi saxlebSi, baRebSi da a.S. ZiriTadad, es aris Cemi Semosavlis wyaro.
– romel mimdinareobas miakuTvnebdiT Tqvens naxatebs?
– iciT, jer kidev Ziebis procesSi var. rogorc wigns kiTxulob yoveldRe da gainteresebs, Semdeg ra moxdeba, iseve mainteresebs, ras vxatav, sadamde mival, ra aRmoCenas gavakeTeb. funji rom gavusvi da raRac forma davinaxe, an romelime lamazi figura gamoisaxa, am yvelafris `amoxatvas~ vcdilob, ra Tqma unda, gonebiT. Semdeg sxva aRmoCenebs vakeTeb. is xazebi axal fiqrebs warmoqmnis da ixateba sxvadasxva etapi. es bevrad sainteresoa CemTvis, vidre peizaJebis xatva – am SemTxvevaSi xom Seni fiqrebi CarCoSia moqceuli… ai, magaliTad, uyureb xes – mwvane feri aqvs, – gadmogaqvs… iq sxva feria – isev amsgavseb da xatav… miuxedavad imisa, rom buneba Seudarebelia da uzomod miyvars, mirCevnia am yvelafers ubralod vuyuro iseTs, rogoric aris. Tu davxatav, raRacas mainc aucileblad davarRvev, sxvagvarad ar SemiZlia. ise, zogierTi ambobs, rom siurrealizmia, rac Cemi azriT, sul sxva ram aris… zogadad, adamianebi TavisiT arqmeven xolme saxelebs – zogi ras amsgavsebs, zogi ras ambobs… mogexsenebaT, xelovnebas vaswavli da vici Janrebi, mimdinareobebi, mxatvrebi, magram vxvdebi, rom Cemi naxatebi, ubralod, TamaSia da verc erT mimdinareobas Sevadareb.
– personaluri gamofenis Sesaxeb mogviyeviT…
– ar SemiZlia axalgazrduli organizacia `AAარტ ვეი~-s Zalian didi mxardaWera ar aRvniSno… swored maTi damsaxurebaa, rom Cemi pirveli personaluri gamofena Sedga. amaSi didi wvlili miuZRviT organizaciis warmomadgenlebs nino CxaiZes da oTar qaTamaZes. swored maT momawodes idea, momewyo gamofena. maqsimalurad CaverTe yvelafris organizebaSi, SevarCie Senobac, adgilic… bevri oTaxi mWirdeboda, amitomac avirCie Senoba, sadac adre saxelosno mqonda. TiToeuli naxatiT sxvadasxva istorias vyvebodi da amis mixedviT ganvaTavse isini sxvadasxva oTaxSi. sul 5 oTaxi iyo, mqonda dawerili naxatebis koncefcia, romelic msaxiobma waikiTxa da Semdeg performansic dadga `video-AA არტ~-Tan erTad. oTaxebSi ganawilebuli naxatebis da maTi Sinaarsis mixedviT, JRerda Sesabamisi Janris musika (violino, gitara, pianino). Zalian mwydeba guli, rom viwro sazogadoebam naxa es yvelaferi… imdenad CaverTeT mzadebis procesSi, bevrs ver mivawvdineT xma. miuxedavad yvelafrisa, is dRe CeTvis Zalian dasamaxsovrebeli aRmoCnda. ar vici, kidev ramdeni gamofena unda movawyo, rom ase damamaxsovrdes. warmoudgenlad vnerviulobdi, Tu daijerebT, verc ki vlaparakobdi, xalxs ver vcnobdi, saocrad dabneuli viyavi, Sinaganad aforiaqebuli da amavdroulad, bednieri, Tavs Zlivs vikavebdi… xan tirili, xanac yvirili mindoda. amdeni emocia, albaT, arasodes yofila CemSi Tavmoyrili. emociuri foni Zalian amaRlebuli iyo, rogorc Cemianebis, aseve ucnobebis mxridan didi siTbo modioda.
– samomavlod ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– axlo momavalSi, konkretulad – 15 noembers, Cemi, oTar qaTamaZis da evgeni zaxaris ideiT, ganxorcieldeba proeqti `2/20~-ze, romelic 2 kviris ganmavlobaSi gagrZeldeba. jer zustad ar viciT sad, magram viciT, rom iqneba prezentacia, gaerTiandeba xelovnebis ramdenime sfero, 5 mxatvris namuSevarze aigeba musikac, istoriac da reJisurac… musikosi dawers musikas da amiT naxats gaacocxlebs, reJisori ki Seqmnis patara monologs naxatze sasaubrod. mxatvrebi airCeven sxvadasxva istorias, aseve iqnebian mwerlebic, romlebic amaze daweren da dagvirgvindeba yvelaferi imiT, rom daixateba 3 uzarmazari tilo – 2/20-ze. imedia, yvelaferi ise iqneba, rogorc CavifiqreT… gazafxulisken meore gamofenasac vgegmav…
Tumca, yvelaze mTavari CemTvis aris is, rom samomavlod mqondes adgili, sadac vimuSaveb mudmivad da yovel wels ar gamovicvli saxelosnos. samwuxarod, amdeni gadasvlis gamo, bevri naxati gamifuWda da uamravi istoriac gadamxda Tavs. minda, rom aucileblad mqondes sakuTari saxelosno, aseve, uamravi tilo da saRebavi. Caviketebi CemTvis, marto da dausruleblad vxatav…