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aWaris janmrTelobisa da socialuri dacvis ministri zaal miqelaZe gansakuTrebuli komunikabelurobiT gamoirCeva, Tumca amjerad jandacvis sakiTxebiT ar davinteresebulvarT. ministrs cotaTi saxaliso da misTvis moulodneli kiTxvebi davusviT, romelzec siamovnebiT gvipasuxa.
– batono zaal, samedicino enaze rogor axsniT siyvaruls?
– sxvaTa Soris, samedicino enaze ukve axsna es grZnoba jandacvis msoflio organizaciam da mas mianiWa kodi F63.9. es, zogadad, fsiqiatriuli Temebis ganmsazRvreli kodia, anu jandacvis organizaciam siyvaruli erT-erT fsiqiatriul gadaxrad aRiara. mec veTanxmebi maT da mimaCnia, Tu tvinSi cota `gadaxra~ ar gaqvs, did siyvaruls ver SeZleb.
– romel filmSi gadaxvidodiT sacxovreblad ?
– bevri filmia aseTi. maTi gmirebis analogiur mdgomareobaSi yofnis survili gamCenia. gamogitydebiT, skolas rom vamTavrebdi, gadawyvetili mqonda samsaxioboze Cabareba, Tumca ratomRac bolo momentSi gadavifiqre. araerT filmSi TamaSze mifiqria, Tumca maT Soris gamovarCev CemTvis yvelaze sayvarel films – `lamazmani~. kargad aris am filmSi aRwerili cxovreba, siyvaruli, megobroba. yvelaferi Zalian lamazad aris dalagebuli. aseT cxovrebaze, albaT, araerTxel uocnebia adamians.
– kulinari rom iyoT da konkursze mxolod erTi kerZis gatanis ufleba gqondeT, romel qarTul kerZze SeaCerebdiT arCevans?
– imerul xaWapurze. yvelaze metad miyvars. rogori danayrebulic unda viyo, roca cxeli imeruli xaWapuri SemoaqvT sufraze, uars verafriT vambob.
– ras eZaxiT yvelaze mouxerxebel adamians?
– ar maqvs raime konkretuli saxeli SerCeuli aseTi adamianisTvis.
– oqros Tevzi rom daiWiroT, winasaaxalwlod romeli sami survilis Sesrulebas sTxovdiT?
– sams ki ara, imden survils CamovuTvlidi, gameqceoda. albaT, banaluria, magram vTxov Zlier, evropul saqarTvelos SenarCunebuli tradiciebiT. meore survili ojaxs, misi wevrebis janmrTelobas daukavSirdeba. sakuTar Tavs ki vusurveb, iqamde viyo am qveyanaze, vidre Cemi Svilebi damoukideblad cxovrebas daiwyeben. Tumca, amis Semdeg giCndeba survili, naxo, rogor dadgnen isini fexze. amaSi sworad cxovrebas vgulisxmob, sxva gansakuTrebuli moTxovna da ambicia arasodes mqonia.
– Sarliz teronma sasiyvarulo romani rom SemogTavazoT da giTxraT, an aravisTan TqvaT amis Sesaxeb, an, ubralod, foto gadaiReT da yvelas gaagebineTo, romels airCevdiT?
– ra Tqma unda, aravis arasodes vetyodi amis Sesaxeb, Cemsa da Sarlizs Soris darCeboda es saidumlo. Tumca, aqve davakonkreteb, saubari maqvs daqorwinebamde periodze, axla im asakSi var, Sarliz teronisTvis ojaxis dangrevas ver davuSveb.
– mamakacis gulisken gza marTla kuWze gadis?
– ar veTanxmebi am gamoTqmas. namdvilad ar vekuTvni mamakacebis im kategorias, visTvisac saWmeli da danayreba ganmsazRvrelia raime tipis urTierTobaSi. erTi Wiqa yava, keTili guli da Rimili yvelafers niSnavs CemTvis.
– Tu aris filmi, romlis naxvisas itireT?
– `jariskacis mama~. albaT, iSviaTad naxavT qarTvel kacs, romelsac filmis finalSi cremlebamde misuli emocia ar hqonia.
– maradona, pele Tu mesi?
– Cele!
– anekdoti, romelzec yvelaze meti icineT?
– ase konkretulad ver vixseneb, Tumca miyvars, sxvebi kargad rom yvebian. anekdotis moyolas gansakuTrebuli niWi sWirdeba, Torem SeiZleba Zalian kargi anekdoti, ubralod, gaafuWo.
– sayvareli mwerali, wigni…
– bevria aseTi, magram gamovyofdi konstantine gamsaxurdias `didostatis marjvenas~. siyvaruli, patriotizmi, istoria, Zlieri qali, yvelaferi STambeWdavad aris erT wignSi Tavmoyrili. myavs sayvareli poetebic. axalgazrdobaSi terenti graneliT viyavi gatacebuli. xalxuri leqsebic miyvars, romelic Cemi qveynis identobis tolfasia, magaliTad, `leqsi vefxisa da moymisa~. mgonia, vinc mas waikiTxavs da arss Caswvdeba, SeuZlebelia, cud gzas daadges cxovrebaSi. xSirad unda wavakiTxoT adamianebs es balada.
– Tu gaxsendebaT informacia, romelmac 2018 wels yvelaze metad gagaxalisaT?
– bolo periodSi msgavsi Zalian bevri iyo, magram sul politikur WrilSi. ar minda politikas Sevexo, Tumca mainc – yvelaze metad vixalise opoziciis mier gamarTul mitingze gaJRerebul frazaze: `auu, ramdeni vaaaarT~… da am dros Cndeba kadri, ramdenic arian.
– ucnauri Wori, romelic Tqvenze mogismeniaT…
– imdeni saqme maqvs, zogjer dRe-RameSi 3-4 saaTi mZinavs mxolod, Sesabamisad, Tvalebic gadaRlili maqvs. Aamis gamo ramdenjerme movismine, `mgoni, magic narkomania~, Tumca yuradReba ar mimiqcevia.
– fexburTis gundis Camoyalibeba rom gTxovon, Tanagundelebidan vis ra niSniT SearCevdiT da romel poziciaze aTamaSebdiT?
– Tavdamsxmelad Tavisi energiiT, SemarTebiT, swori xedvebiTa da poziciiT aWaris mTavrobis Tavmjdomares baton Tornikes davayenebdi. ministrebi unda viyoT pasis sworad Camwodeblebi, Tavdamsxmels zustad unda miawodo pasi, Torem darCeba win da, ubralod, verasodes gaitans gols. amitom, vfiqrob, ukana xazze ministrebis dayeneba marTebulia. gundSi erTi qalbatoni gvyavs, miuxedavad imisa, rom verc erTi mamakaci ver daudgeba win gambedaobiTa da SemarTebiT, menaneba qalbatoni inga fexburTis gundSi. umjobesia, erT-erTi mwvrTneli iyos. mekared daviT gabaiZes davasaxelebdi, radgan mas yovelTvis aqvs swori pozicia. es mekarisTvis umTavresia, rom nebismieri dartyma moigerios. SesaZloa, daTom karebamdec ar miuSvas burTi… yovelTvis vambob da axlac gavimeoreb, warmatebisTvis uRalato urTierTobebia saWiro. Tu aseTi iqneba gundi, is yovelTvis miaRwevs mizans.
– ras nanobT?
– bevr rames. gansakuTrebiT guli mwydeba, rom ver daveufle ucxo enebs. rusuls Tu ar CavTvliT, dRes mxolod erTi, mSobliuri enis amara var, rasac vnanob.
– risi geSiniaT?
– axlobeli adamianebis dakargvis garda, arafris.
– mxolod erTi grZnoba rom arsebobdes dedamiwaze, Tqveni azriT, romeli iqneboda is?
– erTguleba.
– Cems adgilze rom iyoT, ra kiTxvas dausvamdiT aWaris janmrTelobisa da socialuri dacvis ministrs?
– ras elodeba is xvalindeli dRisgan?
– da ras elodebiT xvalindeli dRisgan?
– velodebi, rom qveyana kidev ufro ganviTardeba. mesmis, yvelas gvinda, erTi naxtomiT Sua evropaSi amovyoT Tavi, magram ase ar xdeba, Tumca mjera, garkveuli wlebis Semdeg Cven aucileblad mivalT iq, sadac gvinda misvla. es mosaxleobis absoluturi umravlesobis moTxovnaa. rodesac adamians aqvs mizani da ibrZvis mis misaRwevad, aucileblad miaRwevs. aqve visargebleb SemTxveviT da damdeg axal wels mivulocav Tqvens mkiTxvels, mosaxleobas. Cemi qveynis moqalaqeebs, pirvel rigSi, vusurveb janmrTelobas, socialur daculobas da swor svlas miznebisaken. ar vTqvaT uari ocnebebze, saboloo jamSi is aucileblad sruldeba. 2019 weli ocnebebis asrulebis weli yofiliyos sruliad saqarTvelosa da TiToeuli qarTvelisaTvis!
