ტარიელ ხარხელაური: ბოდიშს ვუხდი ყველას, თუ სიყვარული დავაკელი
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musikas hgavs misi poezia, romelic gaJRenTilia udidesi sikeTiT, siyvaruliTa da patriotizmiT. tariel xarxelauris Semoqmedeba erTnairad uyvars didsa DdaA pataras, radgan iq iseTi margalitebi gxvdeba, Tu erTxel waikiTxe, aucileblad daubrundebi, Seiyvareb, Seneulad miiReb
ramdenime dRis win poetis saRamos aWaris xalxuri xelovnebis skolam umaspinZla, batoni tarieli gansakuTrebulad moefera baTumsa da baTumelebs da dauviwyari saRamo gvaCuqa.
– bavSvoba . . .
– arc ise ioli bavSvoba mqonda, omis Semdgomi Taoba var da gaWirvebaSi gavizarde, glexis ojaxSi, sadac miwis enas maswavlidnen, enas, romelic yvelaze utyuari da mdidaria. papaCemma gadamiSala bunebis wigni, maswavla bunebasTan urTierToba. bavSvobaSi yvelaze metad diliT svel balaxSi pirqve dawola msiamovnebda, balaxSi Sublis Cargva, rom miwa megrZno. ase grZeldeba dRemde, bunebasTan siaxlovis survili arasdros gamnelebia.
– yvelaze metad ra genatrebaT bavSvobidan?
– erTmaneTis siyvaruli menatreba. samwuxarod, teqnikurma saukunem es urTierTobebi gaaxuna. is siyvaruli, romelic maSin gvqonda, dRes aRar aris. teqnikur urTierTobebze gadavediT da ara sulierze, erTmaneTs ar SevuwyveT xeli da gavaRaribeT urTierTobebi, rasac Zalian ganvicdi da mtkiva. samwuxarod, dRes bunebas mowyda adamiani, bunebasTan siaxlove dakarga, arada, buneba gaswavlis qcevis wesebs, gaswavlis, rogor miaRwio sulier harmonias. dRes erTmaneTs davemsgavseT yvelanairad: codniTac, azrovnebiTac, siyvaruliTac. bunebas es ar aqvs, is damoukidebelia, gamorCeulia, masTan siaxlove kurnavs sulis iarebs.
– daclili soflebis sevdaze xSirad saubrobT. ra unda gakeTdes am procesis SesaCereblad?
– mimaCnia, rom sofelze uaris Tqma, samSobloze uaris Tqmis tolfasia. roca Seni saxlidan da soflidan garbixar, Sens qveyanas hkrav xels. ufals ar eSleba, sad unda daibado. me sofelSi davibade da iq unda davasrulo Cemi wuTisofeli. roca gamorbixar qalaqSi, TiTqos ikargebi, verc sofels adgebi, verc qalaqs da verc qveyanas, mxolod zedmeti mowuwune ematebi Sens samSoblos, dadixar da sul raRaciT ukmayofilo xar. me dResac sofelSi var, Toxi da bari miWiravs xelSi da ise movaRwie 74 wlamde, arasodes miwuwunia, sxva ar damidanaSaulebia, Tu raRac ise ver gavakeTe, rogorc unda gamekeTebina. Cemi sofeli arc ise Sorsaa qalaqidan, magram 70 procenti aRar cxovrobs iq. es aris qveynis tragedia. nebismieri xelisufali Tu ar mivida iqamde, rom saintereso gaxados sofelSi cxovreba, ufro da ufro daicleba, ufro da ufro gaudaburdeba mTiani raionebi.
– pirveli Sexeba poeziasTan . . .
– Zalian gvian mivxvdi, rom leqss vwerdi. megona, vwerdi mxolod imisTvis, rom emociisgan gavTavisuflebuliyavi. maSin ver vifiqrebdi, rom odesme am wuTisofelSi kalmis kacad davrCebodi. amas Zalian gvian mivxvdi da SevSindi. SevSindi imitom, rom rodesac modixar mwerlobaSi, gansakuTrebiT – poeziaSi, SenSi unda Caiaros avdrebma. meSinoda, SevZlebdi ki, Cems leqss mkiTxvelamde epova gza? rodesac mkiTxvelamde midis leqsi, mere ukve siyvarulis geSinia, fiqrob, Sen xar amxela siyvarulis Rirsi? roca siyvaruli matulobs, ufro mZafrdeba SiSi da pasuxismgebloba mkiTxvelis winaSe, da ase nel-nela ganagrZob gzas, ugdeb Sinagan xmas yurs da ggonia, rom es Seni xmaa. ara, Sen xar iaraRi, ufali gaZlevs Zalas da saSualebas, saTqmeli Tqva ise, rom mxolod Seni ar iyos is.
– Tqveni saTqmeli . . .
– me erTi wuTic ar micxovria siyvarulis gareSe. sazogadoebas vTxov, moicalon siyvarulisTvis, aucileblad dauTmon dReSi ramdenime saaTi mainc, suli gaanedlon siyvaruliT, sisxli gaanedlon siyvaruliT, guli gaanedlon siyvaruliT. swored siyvarulSi vxedav Cveni gadarCenis mizansac da saSualebasac.
– sevda, romelic arasdros gtovebT . . .
– es Cemi qveynis sevdaa. xandaxan uRirsad vTvli Tavs, rom aseT mSvenier qveyanaSi davibade da ver vufrTxildebi, ver vuvli, Cems qveyanas me TviTon ver vpatronob. Cven, adamianebi, erTmaneTs gavuucxovdiT, erTmaneTis gareSe davdivarT, erTmaneTiT cxovreba ver viswavleT, gavTiTokacdiT, gavcalkevdiT. samSoblo mxolod is miwa ki ar aris romelzec davdivarT, samSoblo TiToeuli adamiania. me SenSi unda davinaxo is samSoblo, romelsac CemSi vxedav. erTad dgomiT yvela problemis daZleva SesaZlebelia.
– patriotizmi . . .
– roca am Temaze vsaubrob, sul vambob xolme, nu gamovekidebiT istorias, gadavxedoT dRevandelobas, magaliTad, Sindisis batalionis biWebi, ai, es aris samSoblos siyvarulis magaliTi. imaze unda visaubroT, rogor SeiZleba samSoblosaTvis daTmo yvelaze Zvirfasi – sicocxle. xSirad erTmaneTs vawonebT Tavs samSoblos siyvaruliT, magram misTvis sicocxlis gaReba SesaZloa, gagviWirdes. rodesac samSoblos gamo sicocxlis gaReba uangarod SegiZlia, es aris CemTvis patriotizmi.
– sazogadoebis siyvaruli rom daimsaxuro . . .
– roca leqss gonebiT wer, SeiZleba, uzomod niWieri xar, magram guli ar giTbobs striqons. mxolod guls SeuZlia siyvarulis energia Seitanos striqonSi. Tu guli ar monawileobs leqsis weraSi da amas gonebiT akeTeb, mkiTxvelma SeiZleba waikiTxos, magram leqsTan ukan aRar dabrundeba, radgan iqidan is siTbo ver gaitana, rac mas sWirdeba, ZarRvi ver gauTbo. ar unda dazogo araferi, yvelaferi unda gasce, rac ufalma mogca, rac Sinaganad gaqvs, radgan is Seni sakuTreba ukve aRaraa. mTavaria, marTali iyo uflis winaSe. uflis siyvarulis gareSe verafers dawer. yvelafers gavwiravdi, Cemi Svili rom gavacocxlo, magram rom miTxran, arCevani gaqvs – Svils cocxals ixilav, Tu leqss dagviwero, ver davwer… davwer, magram is ar iqneba gulwrfeli, marTali.
– ras nanobs poeti tariel xarxelauri . . .
– vnanob, vaiTu vinmes siyvaruli davakeli, mets arafers. es aris Cemi sawuxari. Tu vinmesTan mqonda urTierToba da ise ver movefere, rogorc imsaxurebda, amaze fiqrSi SeiZleba im Rames mSvidad ver daviZino. yvelas bodiSs vuxdi, Tu siyvaruli davakeli.
– SesaZlebeli rom iyos, ras gaimeorebdiT an waSlidiT Tqveni cxovrebidan?
– arafers gavimeorebdi, radgan imas, rac gaviare, veRar Sevexebi. SeiZleba bevr rameze uari vTqvi, rom leqsebTan gulwrfeli vyofiliyavi, arasodes gamomiyenebia Cemi saxeli, rom raime upiratesoba Semeqmna. kidev ufro bevr rames davTmobdi, rom TqvenTan – mkiTxvelTan vyofiliyavi marTali. bednieri kaci var, roca SviliSvilis Taobis axalgazrdebi modian, meferebian, veferebi. isev im gzas gavivlidi, rom Tqvenamde movsuliyavi da mimeRo is sulieri sazrdo, rasac TqvenTan – axalgazrdebTan Sexvedrebisas viReb.
– mxolod erTi leqsi rom iyos Tqveni Semoqmedeba . . .
– daxureT zeca!
varskvlavebTan saubars
viwyeb . . .
moswieT mTvare,
mosayrelad damidgiT
muxlis
da Tqven – qarebo,
CamombertyeT simZime miwis,
rom Cemma gminvam
gaamRvrios samyaros
mwuxri.
sulno SeSlilno,
yvela sknelis karni
ganaxvneT,
rom Cemi mosvla yvela
nerviT
igrZnos samyarom . . .
gadamitaneT –
mzis mxurvale mtverSi
dammarxeT,
miwas cxel mkerdze
siyvarulad gamoayaros.
– rogoria Tqveni wili baTumi?
– baTumSi marto me ki ara, mTeli saqarTvelo unda Camodiodes, rom samSoblos siyvaruli iswavlos. aWarelma kacma unda aswavlos maT siyvaruli da qarTveloba. aq sxva siyvaruli ician da roca mivdivar, sul vekiTxebi sakuTar Tavs, giyvars ise saqarTvelo, rogorc mTian aWaraSi uyvarT? xandaxan eWvi gepareba amaSi, radgan aWarelma kacma icis dakarguli samSoblo ra aris, Sen – ara. bednieri mivdivar dRevandeli Sexvedridan, yvelas veferebi, gansakuTrebiT xalxuri xelovnebis skolis direqtors da Cems umcros megobars vaxtang beriZes, axalgazrdebs, vinc daeswro dRevandel saRamos, yvelas, yvelas. aq miRebuli siTbo da siyvaruli karga xans gamyveba sagzlad.