ირაკლი პატარიძე: ბედნიერი ვარ, რომ ტერენტი გრანელს ჩემი წილი პატივი მივაგე
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25 aprils baTumis municipalitetis sakrebulos morigi sxdoma, romelzec deputatebma dRis wesrigiT gaTvaliswinebul Svid sakiTxze imsjeles, wina sxdomisgan gansxvavebiT, mSvid viTarebaSi warimarTa, xsenebuli 12 aprilis sxdomaze momxdari fizikuri da sityvieri dapirispireba ki sazogadoebaSi dRemde gansjisa da ganxilvis Temaa.
zogadad, qarTul (da ara marto) politikur realobaSi urTierTdapirispireba, SeiZleba iTqvas, miRebulic ki aris – aurzauris momswreni araerTxel gavmxdarvarT. mosaxleobis didi nawilisTvis warmoudgeneli iyo sakrebuloSi Sexla-Semoxlis mizezi poeti gamxdariyo, Tumca asec moxda.
SegaxsenebT, 12 aprils baTumis sakrebulos sxdomaze erTmaneTs `qarTuli ocnebis~ da `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevrebi daupirispirdnen, risi oficialuri mizezic SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetis mimdebared, centralur parkSi, poet terenti granelis biustis ganTavsebis sakiTxi gaxldaT, ufro sworad, misi prozaikosad moxsenieba, rasac sakrebulos ganaTlebis, kulturis, turizmisa da sportis sakiTxTa komisiis Tavmjdomare irakli patariZesa da amave komisiis opozicioner wevr mirdat qamadaZes Soris dapirispireba mohyva. iTqva isic, rom deputatebs erTmaneTTan piradi wyena akavSirebT da isini politikur WrilSi cdiloben am dapirispirebis gadatanas.
irakli patariZe dRes Cveni stumaria. gvindoda dialogi terenti graneliT ar dagvewyo, Tumca am Temas gverdi ver avuareT.
– zogi Wiri margebeliao, naTqvamia. erTma umniSvnelo teqnikurma Secdomam lamis mTel saqarTvelos gaaxsena yvelasaTvis usayvarlesi poeti, romelsac aseve dawerili aqvs werilebic. CemTvis ar iyo problema ganmartebiT baraTSi gaparuli teqnikuri Secdomis aRiareba, magram Cemi kolegis mirdat qamadaZis mier dasmuli kiTxvis konteqsti iyo uxamsi da Seuracxmyofeli, rasac mohyva is, rac mohyva.
– batono irakli, dRevandeli gadasaxedidan, ukve mSvid gonebaze, ras fiqrobT, iyo Tu ara SesaZlebeli dapirispirebis Tavidan acileba?
– samwuxarod, `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ deputatebi sakrebulos sxdomebze rCebian im dromde, vidre darbazSi arian mediis warmomadgenlebi. maT erTi misia aqvT – rac SeiZleba mwvave, demagogiuri, Seuracxmyofeli gancxadebebi gaakeTon, daakninon `qarTuli ocnebis~ saqmianoba. Cemi opozicioneri kolegebi iSviaTad eswrebian komisiis sxdomebs, ar interesdebian gansaxilveli sakiTxebiT. sxvaTa Soris, gamonaklisi arc is komisiis sxdoma iyo, romelzec terenti granelis biustis ganTavsebis sakiTxi ganvixileT. komisiis wevrebi arian nodar dumbaZe da mirdat qamadaZe.
– es ar iyo Tqveni da mirdat qamadaZis pirveli wakamaTeba sxdomaze. ra dgas Tqveni mudmivi kinklaobis miRma? amboben, erTmaneTTan pirovnuli dapirispireba aqvTo.
– aramc da aramc sajaro sivrceSi Seuracxyofas ar mivayeneb, misgan gansxvavebiT, rasac, samwuxarod, Tavad ar erideba. Sevecdebi, roca amis dro mova, pirispir gavce pasuxi. mirdati aris is adamiani, visTvisac advilad SeiZleba Seuracxyofis miyeneba misi politikuri warsulidan gamomdinare, magram sajaro gancxadebebis gakeTebisagan Tavs Sevikaveb.
– ras gulisxmobT politikur warsulSi?
– Zvel saqmianobas, rasac wlebis ganmavlobaSi eweoda deputati. misi saqmianobis Sesaxeb Zalian kargad icis rogorc man, ise sazogadoebis garkveulma nawilma. arasdros mqonia survili, misTvis warsuli sajarod Semexsenebina. mas Semdeg, rac yovelgvar morals da zRvars gascda Cemi misamarTiT gakeTebuli gancxadebebi, Cemdami damokidebuleba, albaT, momiwevs misTvis im mtkivneul wertilebSi dartyma, romlebic, SeiZleba iTqvas, misi cxovrebis Savi laqebia. ise, adamians tyviis garda, bevri sxva ramac klavs, maT Soris sindis-namusi, Tuki aqvs.
– sainteresoa deputatis warsulidan `Savi laqebi~, iqneb ufro konkretuli iyoT?
– batoni mirdatisgan gansxvavebiT, TavSive giTxariT, ar var im moralis adamiani, visac sajaro sivrceSi Seuracxyofa Cvevad aqvs.
– SefarviT, magram mainc SeuracxyofT kolegas Tqveni gancxadebiT…
– mova imis droc, xmamaRla vTqva, rac sazogadoebis mcire nawilma icis.
– anu Tqvensa da mirdats Soris pirovnuli dapirispireba araa?
– garda imisa, rom batoni mirdati Cemi kolegaa, erTi kuTxis Svilebi varT da erT qalaqSi vcxovrobT, masTan araferi saerTo maqvs. getyviT, rom Cveni mamebi megobroben kidec. CemTvis es yvelaferi Rirebulia, rasac angariSs vuwev.
– sakrebulos 12 aprilis sxdomaze gansakuTrebulad mniSvnelovani sakiTxebi ar ixileboda, Tumca mobilizebuli iyvnen rogorc `qarTuli ocnebis~, ise `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevrebi da mxardamWerebi.
– gvqonda informacia, rom adamianTa jgufis mxridan, romlebic meris misaRebSi gaurkveveli moTxovnebiT aTen-aRamebdnen, mosalodneli iyo provokacia. mirdat qamadaZis gaRizianeba gamoiwvia erTma faqtma, rac mediasaSualebebs ar gauSuqebiaT – informacia, rasac `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ iTxovda, karga xnis miRebuli hqondaT eleqtronul fostaze. imdRevandeli aurzauric da xmauric braldebiT, TiTqos meria garkveul monacemebs ar aZlevda maT, sruli demagogia iyo, mizanmimarTuli Sou, rac, nawilobriv, gamouvidaT kidec. mediasaSualebebs sxva rakursiTac SeeZloT sxdomis gaSuqeba.
– fiqrobT, rom sxdoma araobieqturad gaSuqda?
– nawilobriv ki. Tundac is, rom `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~, razec apelirebdnen, werilobiTi pasuxi eleqtronul fostaze miRebuli hqonda. kovzi nacarSi CauvardaT, amitomac areulobis provocirebas Seecadnen.
– ise, ratom ar asajaroeben meriis uwyebebSi dasaqmebulTa siebs maSin, roca uwyebebSi uamravi adamiani swored wina xelisuflebis drosaa dasaqmebuli, maT Soris, dRes ukve opozicionerTa ojaxis wevrebi Tu axloblebi?
– bevri opozicioneris deda, mama, ojaxis wevri, axlobeli, megobari dRemde muSaobs sajaro dawesebulebebSi. ar damiTvlia, Tumca is ki ar aris mTavari, vin visi naTesavi da axlobelia, aramed ramdenad Seesabameba esa Tu is adamiani Tavisi kvalifikaciiTa da ganaTlebiT dakavebul Tanamdebobas. ise, Tu kargad daviTvliT, 2012 wlamde vinc muSaobda, dResac isini arian sajaro seqtorSi. wina xelisufleba sajaro moxeleebs partiuli interesebis gasatareblad iyenebda, ufro metic, aiZulebda nebis sawinaaRmdegodac ki emoqmedaT. sajaro samsaxurebSi `nacionaluri moZraobis~ mxardamWerebi mravlad arian. isini Riad afiqsireben TavianT pozicias, Tumca amis gamo samsaxurebidan ar iTxoven. `qarTuli ocnebis~ monapovari swored esaa – sityvis, gamoxatvis Tavisufleba. ar ateroreben biznesmenebs, RamRamobiT saproceso garigebebi ar dgeba – qonebis daTmoba saxelmwifos sasargeblod. media Tavisufalia da, mTlianobaSi, adamiani aris Tavisufali. yoveli meore aRaraa probacioneri, cixeebSi uadgilobis gamo fexze ar sZinavT da araadamianurad aravis epyrobian. diax, es `qarTuli ocnebis~ monapovaria.
– geTanxmebiT, magram gaWirvebul adamianebs `qarTuli ocnebis~ mTavar monapovarze metad siRatake, gausaZlisi yofa awuxebT.
– dRes saqarTveloSi bevri socialuri problemaa. geTanxmebiT, unda vimuSaoT maT gadaWraze. samwuxarod, saqarTvelos mosaxleobis garkveuli nawili siRaribeSi cxovrobs da is unda davZlioT.
– batono irakli, Tqveni komisia memorialuri dafebis ganTavsebas didi sifrTxiliT ekideba.
– komisiam imsjela da erTxmad mivediT azramde, rom yvela saxlze memorialuri dafa ar unda ganTavsdes, baTumi ar unda iqces memorialebis qalaqad. ramdeni werilic Semova, yvela davakmayofiloT da yvela saxlze memorialuri dafa ganvaTavsoT, ar migvaCnia sworad. mxolod im adamianebis memorialuri dafebi ganTavsdeba, visac gansakuTrebuli Rvawli da damsaxureba aqvs Cveni qalaqis winaSe.
– axlaxan baTumis sakrebulom bulvaris teritoriaze eleqtromobilebis gadaadgileba akrZala, rasac am biznesiT dakavebulTa protesti mohyva.
– ra Tqma unda, adamianurad, Sevdivar maT mdgomareobaSi, visi Semosavlis wyaro gaqiravebidan Semosuli Tanxaa. umravlesobas sesxiT da valiT aqvs isini SeZenili, Tumca ar gvaqvs is infrastruqtura, 1500-ma eleqtromobilma rom imoZraos bulvarSi.
– ukeTesi ar iqneboda, gasuli sezonis dasrulebisas migeRoT msgavsi gadawyvetileba?
– marTalia, gadawyvetileba sakrebulom miiRo, Tumca akrZalvis idea bulvaris administraciisgan wamovida. ise, yvelam Cveni wili pasuxismgebloba unda vigrZnoT.
– ar gifiqriaT, rom Tu eleqtromobilebis mepatroneTa moTxovnebi nawilobriv mainc ar dakmayofildeboda, `qarTul ocnebaze~ amomrCevelTa garkveuli nawili ganawyendeboda? arCevnebi bolo dros xom erTgvarad vaWrobad iqca.
– SeiZleba viRac ambobs, rom unda davaneboT `nacionalebs~ da cxra wels Tavi, Tumca is cxra weli ver dagaviwydeba da imdeni sibinZure dagrovda, dResac gviWirs gatana. amas bevri weli dasWirdeba. arCevnebic swored wina xelisuflebis dros gaxda vaWrobis sagani – piarteqnologiis, marketingis nawili, rac am partiam daamkvidra. vaWroba da manipulireba arCevnebis moaxloebisas Zalian cudia. vidre maJoritari deputati gavxdebodi, meris warmomadgeneli viyavi ximSiaSvilis administraciul erTeulSi. yvelas veubnebodi, arCevnebi CemTvis ar aris ideafiqsi, CemTvis 365-ve dRe erTnairia da saqmesac erTnairi mondomebiT vakeTeb yovelTvis. Cveni wili pasuxismgebloba unda vigrZnoT moqalaqeebis winaSe.
– roca sadeputato vada amogewurebaT, ras fiqrobT, ras ityvis Tqveni amomrCeveli? am etapze risi gakeTeba SeZeliT Tqveni samaJoritaro olqisTvis?
– Cemi ubnis yvela problematuri sakiTxi vicodi, maT Soris yvelaze didi problema iyo da aris Jilinis arxis mimdebare teritoriis keTilmowyoba-reabilitacia. gamocxadebulia tenderi, TiTqmis 5 milioni lari daixarjeba, rom xsenebuli teritoria keTilmoewyos.
– darwmunebuli xarT, Tqveni samaJoritaro vadis amowurvamde Jilinis arxis mimdebare teritoriis keTilmowyoba dasruldeba?
– diax da Zalian lamazic iqneba iqauroba.
– terenti granelis biustis Temas davubrundeT. visi idea iyo poetis biustis baTumSi ganTavseba?
– mTavari is ar aris, rac moxda, arc is, rom viRacam viRacas ukmexi SekiTxva dausva, viRac gaRizianda da sxva, mTavaria, saqme gakeTda. wlebia, iTxovs kvirkveliebis sagvareulo terenti granelis biustis Cvens qalaqSi ganTavsebas. bednieri var, es ambavi, avad Tu kargad, Cemi xelweriT rom gadawyda da terenti granels Cemi wili pativi mivage. amiT kmayofili var. aranairad ar vTvli Tavs dakninebulad an damnaSaved. poetis 120 wlis iubilesTan dakavSirebiT gaixsneba biusti, romelic ganTavsdeba centraluri parkis teritoriaze, universitetis mopirdapired.
– dabolos, batono irakli, rogorc sakrebulos ganaTlebis, kulturis, turizmisa da sportis sakiTxTa komisiis Tavmjdomare, rogor SeafasebT wlevandel baTumobas?
– wels baTumobas ormagi datvirTva hqonda – qalaqis dResTan erTad aRdgomis brwyinvale dResaswaulsac vzeimobdiT. wlevandeli baTumoba iyo uprecedentod STambeWdavi, sanaxaobrivad datvirTuli, vidre aqamde romelime sxva… baTumoba iyo iseTi, rogorsac imsaxureben Cveni Tanaqalaqelebi, es yvelaferi ki baTumis vice-meris sofo xalvaSis damsaxurebaa.
qriste aRdga! baTumobas gilocavT yvelas!