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sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis aWaris televiziisa da radios mrCevelTa sabWos mier direqtoris impiCmentis procesi sakmaod aJitirebulad warimarTa. ratom gadaayena naTia kapanaZe mrCevelTa sabWom, iyo Tu ara procesi politikurad marTuli da ras iTxovda mesame seqtori sabWos wevrebisgan – amaze saubrobs sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis aWaris televiziisa da radios mrCevelTa sabWos Tavmjdomare, Jurnalisti nata imedaiSvili
– nata, saubari daviwyoT Tavad sabWos da mauwyeblis uflebamosilebis gansazRvriT.
– aWaris televiziisa da radios departaments sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis statusi 2013 wels mieniWa, romelic imiTaa mniSvnelovani, rom misi Zalaa kanoni mauwyeblobis Sesaxeb, aseve ukve gaaCnia sakuTari biujeti, hyavs direqtori da mrCevelTa sabWo. rac Seexeba sabWos, igi adgens programul prioritetebs, konkursis safuZvelze irCevs da niSnavs direqtors da akontrolebs biujets anu Tvalyurs adevnebs, rogor gadanawildeba da daixarjeba mauwyeblisTvis gankuTvnili Tanxa.
– sabWo ereva Tu ara mauwyeblis SemoqmedebiT muSaobaSi?
– ara, SemoqmedebaSi ar vereviT, magram programuli prioritetebis Sesrulebaze pasuxismgebelni varT. rac Seexeba berketebs, sakmaod mkacradaa gansazRvruli. direqtorze aranairi zewolis ganxorcielebis ufleba ar gvaqvs, mxolod rekomendaciebis miwodeba SegviZlia. erTaderTi qmediTi berketia direqtoris mimarT undoblobis gamocxadeba, Tuki es ukanaskneli jerovnad ver asrulebs nakisr valdebulebebs. igulisxmeba biujetis arasaTanadod ganawileba da im prioritetebis da pasuxismgeblobis ugulebelyofa, romlis Sesruleba ekisreba mas sazogadoebriv mauwyebelSi.
– rogorc cnobilia, pretenziebi daiwyo operatorTa gaficvis fonze . . .
– ara, yvelaferi gacilebiT adre daiwyo, jer kidev 2017 wlis dasasruls, rodesac direqtorma uari Tqva dokumenturi filmebis warmoebaze da xelSekrulebebi Seuwyvita am saqmiT dakavebul pirebs. is gvarwmunebda, rom Seqmnida dokumenturi filmebis studias. Tumca, cxadia, rom ver gaakeTa. igive moxda kanoniT gaweril da prioritetad miCneul sxva gadacemebTan mimarTebaSic, maT Sorisaa sabavSvo gadacemebi. ugulebelyofili aRmoCnda struqturuli cvlilebebi da samarTliani saxelfaso kalaTis mowesrigebac. es Zalian mtkivneuli, mniSvnelovani sakiTxi iyo, romlis mogvarebac arCevnebis dros misi prioriteti iyo. konkursis dros swored amitom mivaniWeT mas upiratesoba, rom es sakiTxebi hqonda warmodgenili saarCevno programaSi. aqve ganvmartav – imis miuxedavad, rom sazogadoebrivi mauwyebeli aris damoukidebeli, Zlieri institucia, romelsac kanoni icavs komerciuli zegavlenisagan da a.S. igive kanonis moTxovniT, e. w. biurokratia (am sityvis kargi gagebiT), unda iyos sruliad mowesrigebuli, romlis Semadgeneli komponentebia: samarTliani saxelfaso sistema, ufleba-movaleobebis gamijvna da yvelafris sworad, mkafiod Camowera, rac am sistemis mowesrigebis safuZvelia. direqtorma Tavisi mmarTvelobis periodSi ver moaxerxa es, riTac TanamSromelTa samarTliani aRSfoTeba gamoiwvia, sabolood ki miviReT operatorTa protesti.
– sabWos gadawyvetilebis mimarT gamoTqmul braldebebSi gaiJRera, rom impiCmenti mmarTveli gundis mier iyo nakarnaxevi. ramdenad politizebuli iyo procesi?
– diax, iyo msgavsi braldeba, rac Seuracxmyofelad da usafuZvlod mimaCnia. elementarulad, operatorebis Tema rom aviRoT, vin daabralebs maT politikosobas? Tuki marTlac xelisuflebis mmarTvelma gundma mouwoda maT gaficvisken da maTi saqcieli iyo populisturi da usamarTlo, maSin es SeeZlo sakmaod iolad daesabuTebina Tavad direqtors. samwuxarod, am adamianebis protesti socialuri iyo.
– principSi, rogorc cnobilia, ramdenime TveSi, isec da asec, iwureboda naTia kapanaZis direqtorobis vada. ratom iCqareT misi gaTavisufleba, Tuki aqamde Sida samzareuloSi `xarSavdiT~ problemebs, ratom gamoaaSkaraveT da ram gibiZgaT amisken?
– 2016 wlis dekemberSi, rodesac xeli movawereT xelSekrulebas naTia kapanaZesTan, imis iluzia ar gagvCenia, rom pirvelive Tveebidan SeZlebda sakuTari programis realizebas da dakisrebuli valdebulebis Sesrulebas. cxadia, gansazRvruli gvqonda gonivruli vada, rom mauwyeblisTvis ukve tvirTad qceuli problemebi gadaiWreboda, Tumca lodini droSi gaiwela.
– iqneb ar eTanxmeboda qalbatoni naTia am prioritetebs da Tavsmoxveulad miiCnia?
– maTi gansazRvris Tanaziari naTiac iyo, garkveulwilad, misive mosazrebebic gaviTvaliswineT programis SemuSavebisas.
– da mainc, ratom gaxda aucilebeli misi impiCmenti, Secdomebi wina direqtorsac hqonda, Tumca mas ase mkacrad ar moqcevixarT.
– marTalia, aWaris sazogadoebriv mauwyebels ara aqvs didi xnis istoria, magram arc imis dro aqvs, elementaruli problemebis mogvarebas da efeqtiani sistemis Camoyalibebas wlebi Sealios. is rac SeiZleba swrafad unda gavides maRali rangis samauwyeblo orbitaze, miT umetes, rom amis yvela piroba gaaCnia. wina direqtors, marTalia, epatia sakmaod didi gadacdomebi, magram igive precedents veRar davuSvebdiT meoresTan, miT umetes, rom mas gaaCnda kart-blanSi mrCevelTa sabWos sruli mxardaWeris fonze. aseve, TanamSromelTa didi nawili edga gverdiT da swored maTi problemebis mogvarebiT unda daewyo muSaoba.
– impiCmentis Semdeg, sxvadasxva braldebasTan erTad, isic gaJRerda, rom Tqveni gadawyvetilebiT `Tavisufali sityvis kunZuli~ CaZireT, romlis Seqmna swored naTia kapanaZem moaxerxa.
– mimaCnia, rom sityvis Tavisuflebis garanti ar SeiZleba iyos erTi adamiani. am SemTxvevaSi es aris Tavad mauwyeblis statusi, kanoni sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblobis Sesaxeb da is adamianebi, romlebic qmnian produqts, anu Jurnalistebi, romlebic muSaoben mauwyebelSi misi daarsebidan dRemde. `Tavisuflebis kunZulis~ Sesaxeb vrceli komentarisgan Tavs Sevikaveb.
– mesame seqtori CaerTo am procesis gaprotestebaSi. riTi axsniT amas?
– arasamTavrobo organizaciebis kritika gasaTvaliswinebeli da misaRebia ufro metad maSin, rodesac institucia fexs idgams da Tavis damkvidrebas cdilobs. am dros gansxvavebuli azris gaJRereba dadebiTad moqmedebs adresatze, raTa man Tavi daicvas, Secvalos pozicia, gamoasworos xarvezi. esaa muSa procesi, romelic zrdis da awrTobs msgavs uwyebas demokratiisaken mimaval gzaze. Tumca, arasamTavrobo organizaciebis warmomadgenlebma bolo wlebia TiTqmis fufunebaSi gvacxovres. mimaCnia, rom im sazogadoebaSi, romelSic vcxovrobT, mesame seqtori unda iyos `modaraje ZaRli~, iseTi, romelic problemas, usamarTlobas, siRrmiseulad dagvanaxebs da ara pirovnul qcevaze gaakeTebs aqcents.
– rogorc viciT, direqtoris postze kandidatTa gancxadebebs ukve RebulobT. sasamarTlom ar miiRo naTia kapanaZis sarCeli?
– sarCeli miiRo, Tumca CvenTvis konkursis Catareba da axali direqtoris arCeva ar SeuzRudavs. 24 maisamde msurvelTa gancxadebebis miReba grZeldeba. Semdeg, 10 dRis vadaSi moxdeba Semosuli dokumentaciis gadaxarisxeba da 5-6 ivnisamde arCevis procesi dasruldeba.
– Tuki aRadgina sasamarTlom naTia kapanaZe postze?
– albaT, Tavadve gadawyvets da migviTiTebs ra saxiT moxdeba es. cxadia, Sors varT im azrisgan, rom sazogadoebriv mauwyebelSi orxelisuflebianoba iqneba.
– kuluarebSi amtkiceben, rom am postze `qarTuli ocneba~ Tornike mJavanaZis `gayvanas~ apirebs. Tqveni komentari . . .
– igive mkiTxa universitetSi sajaro leqciaze studentmac. amis Sesaxeb am gadasaxedidan konkretuls verafers vityvi, radgan valdebuli varT, ganvixiloT yvela ganacxadi, SeviswavloT kandidatebis begraundi, maTi gamocdileba, profesiuli xedva, gavecnoT warmodgenil koncefciebsa da ganxorcielebis gzebs. Tuki CavTvliT, rom esa Tu is piri marTlac SeZlebs Tavisi xedvis realizebas, Tavs gaarTmevs aRebul valdebulebebs, maSin avirCevT, sxva mxriv ki Sanss ar mivcemT.
– male mrCevelTa sabWos axali Semadgenloba damtkicdeba. xom ar gifiqriaT postze darCena?
– kanoniT, xelmeore kenWisyraze SezRudva ar arsebobs, magram simarTle giTxraT, amaze jer ar vfiqrob. Aaxla CvenTvis Zalian mniSvnelovani da seriozulad dasafiqrebeli periodia. sakuTar momavalze ar mefiqreba.
– Tuki mrCevelTa sabWoSi aRar iqnebiT, sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis direqtoris konkursSi xom ar apirebT monawileobas?
– ara!