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ramdenime dRis win, strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa evropulma sasamarTlom `rusTavi 2~-is saqmeze gadawyvetileba gamoacxada
SegaxsenebT, qibar xalvaSma sasamarTlo dava 2015 wels daiwyo. 2017 wlis martSi saqarTvelos uzenaesma sasamarTlom `rusTavi 2~ qibar xalvaSsa da kompania `panoramas~ miakuTvna. `rusTavi 2~-ma da misma mflobelebma strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa evropul sasamarTlos mimarTes, romelmac gadawyvetilebis miRebamde droebiTi RonisZieba gamoiyena da saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba SeaCera.
`rusTavi 2~ adamianis uflebaTa evropul sasamarTloSi saxelmwifos edaveboda evrokonvenciis oTxi muxlis darRvevas. saubaria samarTliani sasamarTlos uflebis, sakuTrebis uflebisa da gamoxatvis Tavisuflebis muxlebze. telekompania iTxovda, sakuTrebisa da gamoxatvis uflebebis muxlebTan erTad, aralegitimuri mizniT kanoniT gaTvaliswinebuli SezRudvebis gamoyenebis muxlis darRvevac dadgeniliyo.
adamianis uflebaTa evropulma sasamarTlom erTxmad miiRo gadawyvetileba, SeeCerebina sasamarTlos reglamentis 39-e muxli, romlis safuZvelzec telekompania `rusTavi 2~-Tan dakavSirebiT saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebis SeCereba moxda. aseve gadawyvita, rom adgili ar hqonia adamianis uflebaTa evropuli konvenciis me-6 muxlis pirveli punqtis darRvevas Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlos mosamarTlis, Tbilisis saapelacio sasamarTlos mosamarTlisa da uzenaesi sasamarTlos didi palatis, maT Soris uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomarisa da mosamarTlis damoukideblobasa da mikerZoebulobasTan dakavSirebiT. mxareebs strasburgis sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis did palataSi gasaCivrebisTvis samTviani vada aqvT. Tu gadawyvetileba aRniSnul vadaSi ar gasaCivrda, sami Tvis Semdeg ZalaSi Seva.
ver vityviT, rom strasburgis sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba misaRebi iyo bevrisTvis, Tumca telekompania `rusTavi 2~ dRes ukve axal, ufro sworad, Zvel mepatrones daubrunda da, Sesabamisad, arxs axali direqtoric hyavs. mauwyebelSi dasaqmebulebi myar garantiebs iTxoven misgan, amasTan, axlad daarsebuli partiis `gamarjvebuli saqarTvelos~ lideri da yofili Tavdacvis ministri irakli oqruaSvili `rusTavi 2~-is mflobelobaze pretenzias acxadebs da samarTlebriv davas gegmavs qibar xalvaSis winaaRmdeg. Temis aqtualurobidan gamomdinare, interviu politolog aslan lorTqifaniZes vTxoveT.
– batono aslan, strasburgis sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebam `rusTavi 2~-is saqmeze sazogadoebaSi azrTa sxvadasxvaoba gamoiwvia. isini, vinc evropuli samarTali eWvqveS daayena, amboben, rom saqmis mogeba mosyidvis Sedegia. Tqveni Sefaseba rogoria?
– evrosasamarTlos mosyidvaze komentari mxolod `nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevrma giorgi baramiZem gaakeTa, riTac araerTi daayena xumrobis xasiaTze. nebismieri sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis kritika normaluria, Tumca am avtoritetuli institutis mosyidvaze saubari realobas acdenili adamianebis da demagogebis azrovnebis Sedegia. partia, romelmac 2004 wels xelSi Caigdo televizia da mas Semdeg nominalur mflobelebze aformebda, agoniaSia. am televiziis gareSe `nacionalur moZraobas~ warmatebis perspeqtiva ar aqvs. `rusTavi 2~ bolo 15 welia asocirdeba maRal profesionalur doneze gadmocemul cru informaciebTan, wlebia wamlavs saqarTvelos mosaxleobas da iq momuSave Jurnalistebma mosaxleobisaTvis miyenebuli moraluri travmebisTvis bodiSi unda moixadon, aRiaron, rom emsaxurebodnen erT konkretul politikur partias da ara sazogadoebas, mosaxleobas. sxva SemTxvevaSi, maT mimarT ndoba axali mflobelis pirobebSic ki dabali iqneba.
– maSin, roca opoziciuri speqtris didi nawili prodasavlur Rirebulebebze saubrobs da xazgasmiT acxadebs, rom mxolod dasavleTTan partniorobaa saqarTvelosTvis mniSvnelovani, starsburgis sasamarTlosadmi maTi undobloba rogor gavigoT?
– `rusTavi 2~-is sakontrolo paketis bolo nominaluri mflobeli, sanam qibar xalvaSi gadaiformebda, ruseTis federaciis moqalaqe nikoloz nayofia iyo. `rusTavi 2~ finansdeboda rusuli fuliTac. arsebobs gonivruli eWvi, rom maTgan Segnebulad xdeboda saqarTveloSi situaciis daZabva, fsevdo da urapatriotizmis tiraJireba, antirusuli isteriis provocireba, raTa ruseTs hqonoda mizezi saqarTvelos sawinaaRmdego moqmedebebisTvis. SeuZlebelia, dasavluri Rirebulebebi hqondeT `nacionalur moZraobas~ da `evropul saqarTvelos~, romlebic xelisuflebaSi yofnis dros aSenebdnen rusuli tipis avtoritarul reJims Tavisi represiuli aparatiT. `rusTavi 2~ am sadamsjelo instrumentebis nawili iyo. mmarTvelobis sadaveebis dakargvis Semdegac, es televizia am politikuri Zalis politikur instruments warmoadgenda da mxars uWerda xelisuflebis revoluciuri gziT damxobas. amgvari Tvisebis matarebeli politikuri Zalisgan strasburgis sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis eWvis qveS dayeneba gasakviri ar aris.
– `rusTavi 2~-is mimarT xelisuflebas ra interesi aqvs? rogor fiqrobT, Seicvleba Tu ara arxis sainformacio politika?
– `rusTavi 2~-is mimarT xelisuflebas aqvs mxolod erTi interesi – televiziis marTvis sadaveebi ar iyos destruqciuli partiis xelSi, romelic cdilobs nebismier fasad, nebismieri gziT moaxdinos arademokratiuli revanSi qveyanaSi. arxis saredaqcio politika unda Seicvalos, oRond ara ise, rogorc es moxda telekompania `imedis~ SemTxvevaSi. vfiqrob, sakmarisia ori saxelisuflebo arxis arseboba qveyanaSi. `rusTavi 2~ etapobrivad gaTavisufldeba partiuli marwuxebisgan, Tumca es ar unda moxdes saxelisuflebo partiul marwuxebSi moqcevis pirdapirproporciulad. `rusTavi 2~-ma 15 wlis Semdeg unda daibrunos damoukidebloba. es aris Cveni sazogadoebis umravlesobis survili, socialuri dakveTa. sxva SemTxvevaSi, is finansurad momgebiani kompania ver gaxdeba da bunebrivad dadgeba misi daxurvis sakiTxi dRis wesrigSi, rasac aravin Seafasebs dadebiTad.
– ras unda velodoT Jurnalistebisgan, romlebic myar garantiebs iTxoven axali direqtorisgan?
– Zalian rTulia am adamianebs Jurnalistebi vuwodoT. es xalxi konkretuli partiis mxardamWerTa jgufia. isini yovelTvis qmnidnen maRali xarisxis sainformacio produqts, oRond ara miukerZoebels da ara dabalansebuls. isini arasdros Seqmnian miukerZoebel, dabalansebul sainformacio produqcias. amitom maTi umravlesoba televizias etapobrivad, sakuTari gadawyvetilebiT datovebs da kvlav partiul televizias, savaraudod, `rusTavi 5~-s Seqmnis. nayofia partia `nacionalur moZraobas~ da mis piarsamsaxurs – `rusTavi 2~-s isedac afinansebda da amas sxva sixSireebis saSualebiT gaagrZelebs, rac 21-e saukuneSi araviTar problemas ar warmoadgens. Jurnalistebi arxs xmauriT datoveben, raTa maqsimaluri ziani miayenon televizias da qveynis demokratias saerTaSoriso Tanamegobrobis TvalSi, manamde ki televiziis direqtorisa da mflobelis daSantaJebas Seecdebian.
– nika gvaramiam, SeiZleba iTqvas, aJiotaJis gareSe datova direqtoris posti. misi simSvidis ukan, albaT, saTadarigo gegmac iqneba, magaliTad, axali televiziis gaxsna.
– nika gvaramias sxva gza ar hqonda. imdenad maRal Sefasebas aZlevda dasavlur institutebs, rom is sakuTari mosazrebebis tyveobaSi aRmoCnda. an daTanxmdeboda strasburgis sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas an Riad ityoda, rom is ar iziarebs dasavlur Rirebulebebs. Tavisive farisevlobis mZevali gaxda. nika gvaramias arc xelisuflebaSi yofnis dros da arc televiziaSi muSaobis ganmavlobaSi araferi akavSirebda demokratiul, dasavlur RirebulebebTan. amas pirdapir eTerSi misi qcevebiT vxedavdiT da vismendiT. ra Tqma unda, is muSaobas gaagrZelebs axal partiul televiziaSi.
– erT dResac Jurnalistebis umravlesobam televizia rom datovos, ra Sedegs miiRebs arxis axali mmarTveli? SeZleben ki adamianuri resursis im doneze mobilizebas, rom telekompaniam Seuferxeblad gaagrZelos muSaoba?
– televizias yvela ar datovebs, teqnikuri personalis umravlesoba gaagrZelebs saqmianobas. ramdenime aTeuli Jurnalistis Canacvleba araviTar sirTulesTan ar iqneba dakavSirebuli. vfiqrob, es arxis reputaciisTvisac momgebiani iqneba.
– bolos da bolos, visia `rusTavi 2~? ufro konkretulad, irakli oqruaSvilze minda gkiTxoT – rasTan gvaqvs saqme?
– `rusTavi 2~ ekuTvnis mis damfuZneblebs jarji aqimiZesa da daviT dvals. erosi kiwmariSvilma Tavisi wili sakuTari nebiT gayida. dvalsa da aqimiZes televiziis funqcionirebisaTvis saWiro finansuri resursebi ar aqvT, amitom xalvaSTan garigeba orive mxarisaTvis momgebiania. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, aqimiZe da dvali iseTive warmatebiT daibruneben televizias, rogorc es moxda xalvaSis SemTxvevaSi. 2004 wlidan, `rusTavi 2~-is warTmevis Semdeg, am arxis realuri mflobeli iyo mixeil saakaSvili. danarCenebi mxolod fiqtiur mesakuTreebs warmoadgendnen.
– Tqveni azriT, rogori dasasruli eqneba oqruaSvilisa da xalvaSis davas sasamarTloSi?
– irakli oqruaSvilma aRiarebiTi Cveneba misca sazogadoebas da samarTaldamcavebs. Tqva, rom iZulebiT daaTmobines televizia mesakuTreebs. aseve aRiara, rom is iyo korumpirebuli ministri, romelmac ministrobis dros milionebi iSova. kidev erTxel axada farda saakaSvilis xelisuflebas, rom is iyo moZalade, arademokratiuli da elitur korufciaSi Cafluli. irakli oqruaSvili namdvilad idga qibar xalvaSis ukan, xolo mis ukan – mixeil saakaSvili. es iyo moZaladeTa da damnaSaveTa erTi kriminaluri jgufi, romlis wevrebma Zalaufleba da fuli erTmaneTSi ver gaiyves. oqruaSvili samarTlebrivi gzebiT ver daamtkicebs, rom televiziis realuri mflobeli Tavad iyo, iseve rogorc saakaSvili. maT televizia xalvaSze hqondaT gaformebuli, sasamarTloSi ki gadawyvetilebebs dokumentebis ganxilvis Semdeg iReben.
– emuqreba Tu ara `rusTavi 2~-dan naTqvam Tavisufal sityvas safrTxe paata salias direqtorobis pirobebSi?
– `rusTavi 2~ da iq momuSave adamianebi 2004 wlidan dRemde arasdros yofilan Tavisuflebi, Sesabamisad, maT saqmianobas `Tavisufal sityvasTan~ saerTo araferi aqvs. rac ar hqoniaT, imas verc dakargaven. ubralod, maT, etapobrivad, aRar eqnebaT SesaZlebloba, imuSaon mixeil saakaSvilis dRis wesrigiT. swored es SesaZleblobis fanjara exurebaT da maTi wuxili am faqts ukavSirdeba.
– dabolos, batono aslan, zogadad, aris Tu ara media saqarTveloSi Tavisufali da damoukidebeli?
– Tqveni gazeTis mTavari redaqtoris marina miTaiSvilis citatiT gipasuxebT: `gazeT `aWaras~ arasdros hqonia iseTi saredaqcio damoukidebloba, rogoric aqvs dRes~. es aris sabiujeto dafinansebaze myofi gamocema, romlis muSaobaSic aravin ereva da es Cans Tqveni gazeTis furclebzec. saqarTveloSi presa sruliad Tavisufalia saxelisuflebo gavlenebisgan. aseve funqcionireben damoukidebeli nacionaluri telearxebi: `pirveli~, `palitraniusi~, `kavkasia~, `aWaris televizia~, araerTi damoukidebeli regionuli arxi, maT Soris `telearxi 25~. `rusTavi 2~-is sapirwoned xelisufleba iZulebuli gaxda `teleimedis~ saredaqcio politika gaexada saxelisuflebo. vfiqrob, axla amis saWiroeba aRar arsebobs da visurveb, `imedi~ da `maestro~ dabrunebodes damoukidebel, dabalansebul saredaqcio politikas.
