ეკატერინე ტიკარაძე: ჩემთვის ქირურგიული ჩარევები გაცილებით მისაღებია, ვიდრე პლაცებოს ეფექტით მკურნალობა
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baTumis respublikuri saavadmyofo, romlis mSenebloba dasrulebulia, am dromde samedicino teqnologiebiT aRWurvili ar aris
sami wlis ganmavlobaSi araerTxel gvsmenia, rom saxelmwifo samedicino dawesebulebis gayidvas gegmavs, rasac iq dasaqmebuli medpersonalis mxridan vnebaTaRelva mohyolia. iyo saprotesto aqciebic. respublikuri saavadmyofos mSenebloba `qarTuli ocnebis~ xelisuflebam daiwyo, romelic ukve meramdened debs pirobas, rom respublikur saavadmyofos ar gaasxvisebs da Tanamedrove standartebis Sesabamisad aRWuravs. amis Taobaze guSin saavadmyofos medpersonalma kidev erTxel miiRo dapireba saqarTvelos okupirebuli teritoriebidan devnilTa, Sromis, janmrTelobisa da socialuri dacvis ministr ekaterine tikaraZisgan, romelmac regionis mTavrobis TavmjdomaresTan da ministrTa kabinetTan erTad saavadmyofo daaTvaliera.
– saxelmwifosTvis da piradad CemTvis, Cemi TanamSromlebisTvis mniSvnelovania urTierTTanamSromloba, komunikaciis xarisxis gazrda, ufro mWidro urTierTobebi samedicino sazogadoebasTan, mniSvnelovania saxelmwifo servisebis da saxelmwifo saavadmyofoebis mxardaWera. imisTvis vimyofebi dRes TqvenTan, rom aqtiurad daviwyoT muSaoba Tqveni da Cveni saavadmyofos fexze dasayeneblad – aRiWurvos Tanamedrove standartebis Sesabamisi teqnologiebiT da dainergos Sesabamisi standartebi. araerTxel mqonda Sexvedra saavadmyofos direqtorTan, vici, rom aq muSaobs kvalificiuri medpersonali, rac mniSvnelovania rogorc startisTvis, ise momavlisTvis, vinaidan Tqvens xelSi iqneba Taobebis aRzrda, – ganacxada ministrma saavadmyofos medpersonalTan Sexvedrisas.
– Cemo kolegebo, Tqven ukve wlebia inarCunebT im istorias, rac ara mxolod baTumisTvis, mTeli aWarisTvis aris mniSvnelovani. swored is, rom dRes Cven yvelani am saukeTeso sivrceSi vxvdebiT erTmaneTs, aris dasturi imisa, rom Cven SegviZlia erTad viSromoT da vibrZoloT kidev ufro ukeTesi momavlisTvis. darwmunebuli var, es Tmena Rirda imad, rom saukeTeso sivrceSi gavagrZelebT swored im programebis Sesrulebas, rac ara mxolod CvenTvis, rogorc eqimebisTvis, Cveni moqalaqeebisTvis aris ase mniSvnelovani. kidev erTxel didi madloba im urTierTobisTvis, rac wlebis ganmavlobaSi gvqonda, rogor gvesmoda erTmaneTis. im rTul situaciaSi ra mdgomareobaSic Tqven imyofebodiT, SeZeliT SegenarCunebinaT xarisxi da usafrTxoeba, rac ase mniSvnelovani iyo Cveni moqalaqeebisTvis. male erTad vizeimebT am klinikaSi samedicino servisebis miwodebis dawyebas, – ase miesalma kolegebs regionis jandacvis ministri zaal miqelaZe.
misasalmebeli sityva madlobiT daiwyo aWaris mTavrobis Tavmjdomaremac.
– madloba saqarTvelos jandacvis ministrs, qalbaton ekas, rom Zalian operatiulad Cawvda qalaqisTvis, regionisTvis mniSvnelovani sakiTxis arss da dRes ukve konkretuli gegmiT CamobrZanda. amocana erTia – obieqtis mSenebloba, romelic Cvenma xelisuflebam ramdenime wlis win daiwyo, miuxedavad imisa, rom iyo mravali gamowveva, daskvniT etapzea da mniSvnelovania, male Sesabamisad aRiWurvos. Zalian male unda miewodos samedicino servisebi Tanamedrove infrastruqturaSi pacientebs. madloba Tqven, vinaidan moTminebiT, Zalian konstruqciulad elodebodiT am obieqtis dasrulebas da gagebiT ekidebodiT im yvela gamowvevas, romelic gvqonda. Zalian male, im gegmis Sesabamisad, rac jandacvis saministros gaaCnia, SeZlebT pirveli pacientebis miRebas, romlebsac eqnebaT wvdoma xarisxian samedicino servisze. Tqven Rirseul garemoSi mogiwevT Sroma da es Sroma dafasdeba, – aRniSna Tornike riJvaZem.
xelisuflebis da medikosebis warmomadgenelTa Sexvedra kiTxva-pasuxis reJimSi warimarTa.
vinc sajarod gamosvlas da kiTxvebis dasmas ar moerida, respublikuri saavadmyofos qirurgi emzar diasamiZe iyo. maspinZelma madloba gadauxada ministrs stumrobisTvis da Tqva, rom respublikur saavadmyofoSi, miuxedavad samuSao pirobebisa, samedicino servisis miwodeba standartebis Sesabamisad xdeba.
– sakmarisia Cemgan xelmarcxniv da Tqvengan xelmarjvniv, daaxloebiT 20-30 metris moSorebiT gavixedoT da saxezea yvela problema. sadac axla saavadmyofos axali korpusia, Tavis droze 3 korpusi idga. dRes yvela ganyofileba da sameurneo nawili erT korpusSia ganTavsebuli. Zveli, amortizebuli Senoba veranair kritikas ver uZlebs, es Cvenc viciT da mosaxleobamac. am yvelafris miuxedavad, saavadmyofo datvirTulia TiTqmis 100 procentiT. kargia, namdvilad am proeqtis arseboba, samomavlo perspeqtiva, rac droSi gaiwela, ramac Cveni moTminebis fiala aavso… samwuxarod, wlebia ver vaxerxebT Tanamedrove aparatebis SeZenas, servisebis gafarToebas da axlis danergvas. gvainteresebs, konkretuli vada, rodis gaixsneba respublikuri saavadmyofo? mivawodebT Tu ara im servisebs mosaxleobas, razec Tavidan iyo saubari da daemateba Tu ara axali servisebic. saboloo jamSi, gvainteresebs, respublikuri saavadmyofo iqneba Tu ara sauniversiteto klinika? – ikiTxa emzar diasamiZem, romelsac ekaterine tikaraZem upasuxa: `sauniversiteto klinikebad calsaxad warmogvidgenia saxelmwifo klinikebi, vinaidan saxelmwifos pasuxismgebloba aqvs mosaxleobis da eris winaSe~.
– Cven vmoZraobT erTi gziT – gvinda Cveni samedicino kadrebi, romlebic momavalSi daasruleben samedicino universitets da miiReben Sesabamis kvalifikacias, aRiarebuli iyvnen msoflios yvela qveyanaSi. es aris Cveni erT-erTi mizani, rac ganaTlebis komponents Seexeba. vinaidan amxela ambicia gvaqvs, pasuxismgeblobasac viRebT sakuTar Tavze da saxelmwifo klinikebi iqneba sauniversiteto klinikebi, romlebic uzrunvelyofen rogorc Cveni momavali Taobis aRzrdas, ise Sesabamis xarisxs. Tqven gainteresebT, rodis daiwyeba es yovelive? ukve Camoyalibda saqarTvelos samedicino holdingi, romelSic gaerTianebuli iqneba is saxelmwifo klinikebi, romlebzec Cven viRebT patronaJs. am gaerTianebaSi iqneba baTumis respublikuri saavadmyofoc da mis farglebSi is ifunqcionirebs yovelgvari Seferxebis gareSe. pirveli saavadmyofo, romlis aRWurvac daiwyeba, iqneba baTumis respublikuri saavadmyofo da Cven, realurad, umokles vadaSi viwyebT molaparakebebs Sesabamis struqturebTan, raTa ganxorcieldes Sesyidvebi. Tqveni Tmenis xarisxi da Tqveni Tmenis dro namdvilad iyo uprecedento, risTvisac kidev erTxel madlobas gixdiT, Tqven xarT, udavod, xangrZlivi korporatiuli kulturis matarebeli, sxva SemTxvevaSi ver SeZlebdiT im pirobebSi funqcionirebas, rac dRes gaqvT, – ganacxada ministrma. mas ramdenjerme sTxoves saavadmyofos aRWurvis konkretuli TariRis dasaxeleba, Tumca konkretikisgan Tavi Seikava da vadebTan dakavSirebiT Tqva – daviwyebT myisierad!
respublikuri saavadmyofos Terapiuli ganyofilebis ufrosi beniamin WeliZe xelisuflebis morig dapirebas saavadmyofos aRWurvasTan dakavSirebiT ar endoba, ufro metic, process eqimi placebos efeqts uwodebs.
– yvelam viciT, rac aris placebos efeqti – ganukurnebeli senis avadmyofs aZleven tabletebs, raSic ubralo fxvnilia da imeds aZleven morCebio. aseTi dapirebebiT movdivarT 3 welia. Cveni koleqtivis aqtiurobiT, saprotesto aqciebiT movaxerxeT saavadmyofos gadarCena. roca amboben, rom saavadmyofos aRWurvisTvis saWiro Tanxa biujetSi ar aris, absurdia, radgan wlebis ganmavlobaSi rogorc saqarTvelos, ise avtonomiuri respublikis biujetSi milionobiT lari auTvisebeli Ceba. mxolod keTili neba iyo saWiro, saavadmyofos aRWurvisTvis Tanxa rom gamoeyoT. SarSan, 3 noembers yofilma ministrma sergeenkom ganacxada, rom eZebdnen donorebs Tanxebis mosaZieblad, imave wels ki saqarTvelos biujetma ver aiTvisa 270 milioni lari. bolo dReebis informaciiT, arc aWaris da arc saqarTvelos jandacvis saministroebis biujetSi gaTvaliswinebuli araa saavadmyofos aRWurvisTvis Tanxa. Tqven, qalbatono ministro, samomavlo gegmebzec isaubreT televiziiT, Tumca araferi giTqvamT am umniSvnelovanes proeqtze, myisieri aRWurvis dapirebebs ki 3 welia vismenT. saqme sul sxva rameSia, saqarTveloSi, samwuxarod, mkvidrdeba klanur-korporaciul-oligarqiuli marTva, iseTive, rogoricaa farmaciaSi, razec konkretuli faqtebiT SemiZlia gesaubroT. amitomacaa TurqeTze 3-jer Zviri CvenTan wamlebi, aseTi xdeba medicinaSic da saxezea korporacia `eveqsis~ SeTqmuleba. `eveqsma~ Tavis droze ver dabloka am saavadmyofos mSenebloba, magram wlebia blokavs saavadmyofos aRWurvisTvis Tanxis gamoyofas, – ganacxada beniamin WeliZem.
respublikuri saavadmyofos eqimis kiTxvebs ministrma upasuxa.
– samwuxarod, teleeTerSi Cemi samomavlo gegmebis translacia srulad ar moxda, Sesabamisad, rac Tqven naxeT, ra Tqma unda, konkretul biujetze ar vsaubrobdi, magram vaxsene, rom Zalian mniSvnelovania saxelmwifo klinikebis Sesabamis doneze ayvana da maTi swori marTva imisaTvis, rom gauwion konkurencia kerZo seqtors, romelic dRes saqarTveloSi operirebs. es namdvilad aris prioriteti rogorc ministrisTvis, aseve mniSvnelovania Cveni samedicino sazogadoebisTvis da pacientebisTvis. meorec, xval gepatiJebiT prezentaciaze da Tqven naxavT, rom CemTvis qirurgiuli Carevebi gacilebiT misaRebia, vidre placebos efeqtiT mkurnaloba.
Sexvedraze regionis mTavrobis Tavmjdomares medikosebma sakuTari sityvebi Seaxsenes. roca is Tavmjdomaris ampluaSi pirvelad estumra saavadmyofos, Tqva, rom respublikuri saavadmyofo iyo saukunis proeqti da misTvis principis sakiTxi iyo am proeqtis bolomde miyvana. medikosebs kvlav ministrma upasuxa da Tqva, rom ori dRis daniSnuli iyo, roca batonma Tornikem daureka da sTxova qmediTi nabijebis gadadgma respublikur saavadmyofosTan mimarTebaSi.
– meorejer vimyofebi baTumSi, Tqveni warmomadgenlebic iyvnen Camosulebi TbilisSi da ukve zustad viciT, ras da rodis gavakeTebT. mec Tqveni kolega var da viqnebi garanti, rom Tqven mxolod pacientebze izrunoT da sxva safiqrali ar gqondeT, uTxra SekrebilT ekaterine tikaraZem.
regionis mTavrobis Tavmjdomarem ki xazgasmiT aRniSna – saqmiT davamtkicebT, rasac vambobT da ara marto am konkretul obieqtTan mimarTebaSi. kidev ramdenime Tve moviTminoT da saqme bolomde miviyvanoT.
medikosebTan Sexvedris dasrulebis Semdeg, ministrs konkretul vadebze Jurnalistebmac hkiTxes, Tumca, ekaterine tikaraZem mxolod is Tqva, rom respublikuri saavadmyofo rCeba saxelmwifo marTvaSi da myisierad gadadgamen nabijebs saavadmyofos aRWurvisTvis. ministrma arc konkretuli cifri daasaxela, ra Tanxa dasWirdeba saavadmyofos aRWurvas da arc is gviTxra, ra aparaturas SeiZenen samomavlod.
– xarjebi da aRWurvilobis CamonaTvali interesebidan gamomdinare gasajarovdeba, amaze mogvianebiT visaubroT, – aRniSna mediasTan saubrisas ekaterine tikaraZem.
ministrTan medias sxva kiTxvebic hqonda. viciT rom, igegmeba sayovelTao jandacvis programaSi CarTuli klinikebisTvis pacientebis momsaxurebis tarifebis gaTanabreba. Sesabamisi gadawyvetileba mTavrobis sxdomaze 1 noembers miiRes. cvlilebiT, romelic mTavrobis 2013 wlis 21 Tebervlis nomer 36-e dadgenilebaSi (sayovelTao jandacvaze gadasvlis mizniT gasatarebel zogierTi RonisZiebis Sesaxeb) Sevida, am etapze, axali tarifebi kardioqirurgiisa da reanimaciis servisebze amoqmeddeba. pacienti kvlav gadaixdis Tanagadaxdis gansazRvrul odenobas, Tumca aRniSnuli gadasaxadi Semcirdeba da erTnairi iqneba yvela samedicino dawesebulebaSi. Cndeba logikuri kiTxva, axali regulaciebi xom ar gamoiwvevs kerZo samedicino dawesebulebebis gakotrebas?
– sayovelTao jandacvis programaSi CarTuli klinikebisTvis erTiani tarifis amoqmedeba konkurencias daaregulirebs da xarisxis amaRlebas Seuwyobs xels, – ganacxada ekaterine tikaraZem.
ministri ar iziarebs mosazrebas, rom erTiani tarifis SemoReba bazris kanonebs daarRvevs.
– am mosazrebas calsaxad ar viziareb, mTeli msoflio operirebs erTiani tarifiT qveynis masStabiT, Sesabamisad, saqarTvelo ver iqneba gamonaklisi da saqarTveloSi es klinikebs ver daangrevs. pirvel rigSi, pacientebs eqmnebaT problemebi, vinaidan pacientis jibidan gadasaxadi ar regulirdeba da isini TiTqmis gakotrebis zRvarze arian misuli klinikebis interesebidan gamomdinare, – Tqva man. ministris iniciativiT, SesaZloa eqims orze met klinikaSi muSaoba aekrZalos. rogorc Tvlis, akrZalva kadrebis deficits ar Seqmnis.
– deficiti aris imitom, rom klinikebs daregistrirebuli hyavT eqimebi, romlebic pacientebs adgilze ar xvdebian. es problema arsebobs da vcdilobT mis daregulirebas. klinikebSi dasaqmebuli medpersonalis sia da servisebis CamonaTvalic realobas unda Seesabamebodes, – acxadebs ekaterine tikaraZe.
kiTxvaze, igegmeba Tu ara eqimebis kvalifikaciis donis auditi, raTa arsebobdes realuri informacia dRes am mimarTulebiT arsebul mdgomareobaze, ministri ambobs, rom igegmeba mxolod eqimebis swavleba.
– Cveni mizania, yvela eqimi iyos kvalificiuri, razec saministro da regulirebis samsaxuri muSaobs, – gviTxra ekaterine tikaraZem.
SegaxsenebT, baTumis 170-sawoliani mravalprofiluri klinikuri saavadmyofo mosaxleobas maRalkvalificiur, specializebul samkurnalo da sakonsultacio samedicino daxmarebas gauwevs. klinikis funqciebSi Sedis gadaudebeli samedicino momsaxureba, daavadebis adreuli gamovlenis, diagnostikisa da reabilitaciis Tanamedrove standartebis da meTodebis danergva. ekaterine tikaraZis gancxadebiT, axali respublikuri saavadmyofos bazaze moxdeba aseve studentebisa da arsebuli samedicino kadrebis momzadeba-gadamzadeba da kvalifikaciis amaRleba. klinikaSi Catardeba maRalxarisxiani samedicino gamokvlevebi, imuSavebs pediatriuli da sameano ganyofilebebi.