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qveyanaSi agroseqtoris ganviTarebisTvis sakmaod didi Tanxebi ixarjeba. ZiriTadi mizani am kuTxiT kerZo mewarmeTa xelSewyobaa, rac xSirad, sxvadasxva mizezis gamo, ver xerxdeba
cxadia, qveynis ekonomikis kolafsidan gamoyvana mxolod saerTaSoriso bazarze Cveni produqciis gatanas ZaluZs, Tumca diletantic ki amCnevs savargulebs, romlebic sarevelebisgan gadagvarebulia. erTi periodi daiwyes fermerebma am miwebis damuSaveba da iq Txilis plantaciebis gaSeneba, Tumca farosanas momravlebis gamo es procesi Senelda. bevrma xelebi CamouSva, radgan Txilis moyvana SeuZlebeli gaxda. marTalia, am kuTxiT soflis meurneobis saministrom uzarmazari samuSaoebi Caatara rogorc mwerebis mowamvlis, ise nacrisgan Txilis Tu sxva mcenareebis dacvis kuTxiT, magram viTareba isev daZabulia da bevrs aRar sjera, rom SesaZlebelia soflis meurneobiT ara mxolod Tavis gatana, aramed sarfiani biznesis warmoebac ki.
am mxriv optimisturadaa ganwyobili saerTaSoriso arasamTavrobo humanitarul-saqvelmoqmedo organizacia `momavals~ damfuZnebeli zaur gogitiZe, Sps `ojaxi.ji~-s direqtori, romlis ZiriTadi saqmianoba Cveni agroseqtoris gaZlierebisakenaa mimarTuli. Tu ras Tvlis yvelaze mZlavr faqtorad dargis ganviTarebaSi, ratom miaCnia aucileblobad emigranti qarTvelebis gaerTianeba da ras niSnavs iyo qarTveli – amaze da sxva Temebze saubrobs gazeT `aWarasTan~ batoni zauri, romelsac swams, rom mxolod msoflios sxvadasxva materikze gabneuli Tanamemamuleebis erToblivi ZalisxmeviTaa SesaZlebeli saqarTvelos mowinave saerTaSoriso poziciebze gayvana.
– rodis da ra mizniT daarsda Tqveni arasamTavrobo organizacia?
– daarsda 2008 wlis omis Semdeg humanitaruli tvirTis mozidva-darigebis mizniT, raTa davxmarebodiT am periodSi dazaralebul Tanamemamuleebs. CavatareT rigi saqvelmoqmedo RonisZiebebi, Semdeg ki gadavwyviteT am organizaciisTvis ufro farTo masStabis micema, rac rogorc SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqone bavSvebis, ise SeWirvebuli moqalaqeebisTvis daxmarebis gawevis saSualebas mogvcemda.
– sakuTar Tavze ras gvetyviT?
– warmoSobiT Suaxevis sofel goginauridan var. iqve davamTavre skola, Semdeg baTumis SoTa rusTavelis universitetis istoriis fakulteti. momdevno wlebSi inJiner-mSeneblis specialobac miviRe. Cemi sazogadoebrivi saqmianoba daiwyo Cemive gvaris Sesaxeb informaciebis mopovebiT da Semdgom wignis gamocemis surviliT. swored maSin Cavwvdi eris saidumloebas. wignze muSaobam Semaxvedra TurqeTSi mcxovreb qarTvelebs. iq gavicani gogitiZeebi, romlebic Turq moqalaqeebad ewerebian, magram saqarTvelos ar iviwyeben, arc sakuTar warmomavlobasa da gvarebs. 2000-2001 wlebSi Sevxvdi ara mxolod Turq gogitiZes, aramed muhajirebis STamomavlebs iqaur qarTul centrebSi. maSin gamiCnda idea, baTumSi dagvearsebina muhajir qarTvelTa da emigrantebis muzeumi, sadac warmodgenili iqneboda yvela dokumentacia, foto Tu videomasala, istoriuli nivTebi, yvelaferi is, rac am Temaze momuSave pirebs xels Seuwyobda Cveni istoriis, winaprebis Sesaxeb saarqivo cnobebis mopovebaSi.
– ratom maincdamainc emigrantebis muzeumi. . .
– samwuxarod, Tvals Tu gadavavlebT dedasamSoblos istorias an awmyos, Cveni cxovreba dakavSirebulia emigraciasTan, dapyrobiT omebTan. qarTvelebi gabneulni arian mTel msoflioSi, sxva qveynebSi iwyoben cxovrebas. aqve aRvniSnav, rom nebiT moxvdnen isini ucxoeTSi Tu ZaliT, ver Zleben sakuTari miwa-wylis gareSe – saqarTvelo rCeba maTTvis saocnebo qveynad, sadac mudmivad surT dabruneba da cxovrebis gagrZeleba. am tipis muzeumi sruliad axaleburad dagvanaxebs Cveni qveynis Svilebs, romlebic fizikurad arseboben sxvadasxva qveyanaSi da suliT qarTvelebad rCebian. Cven TurqeTSi mcxovreb qarTvelebTan erTad oficialuri Ria weriliT mivmarTeT maSindel prezident margvelaSvils muzeumis gaxsnis TxovniT, magram ver moxerxda. iqve vwerdiT, rom muzeumis paralelurad unda gaxsniliyo qarTvelTa msoflio centri, romelic Tanamedrove cifruli teqnologiebis meSveobiT ucxoeTSi gabneul qarTvelTa konsolidacias da maTTan erTad qveynis sakeTildReod saerTaSoriso masStabis RonisZiebebis Catarebas SeZlebda.
– mainc rogori RonisZiebebis Catarebas gegmavdiT?
– es centri gars Semoikrebda Cvens Tanamemamuleebs, gaecnoboda, ra uWirT, ra ulxinT, risi gakeTeba SeuZliaT maT CvenTvis da Cven – maTTvis. es iqneb liton sityvebad mogeCvenoT, magram msgavsi organizacia aucilebelia, raTa isedac gadaSenebis piras misul qarTvelobas SegveZlos erTmaneTTan dakontaqteba. ar unda gawydes kavSiri aravisTan, maT Soris arc imaT Svilebsa Tu SviliSvilebTan, romlebsac SesaZloa, qarTuli enac aRar esmiT, magram gadmocemiT ician, rom umSvenieresi qveynidan arian da is isev eliT maT, rogorc sakuTar pirmSoebs.
– visac surs saqarTvelosTan kavSiri, isedac ar wyvets. . .
– piradi kontaqtebi erTia, magram sul sxvaa, rodesac amas kurirebs oficialuri organizacia, romelsac wvdoma aqvs rogorc samTavrobo struqturebTan, ise sazogadoebis farTo fenebTan. sxvaTa Soris, swored TurqeTSi gaCnda es idea imitom, rom iqaur qarTvelebs ramdenime msxvil qalaqSi aqvT qarTuli centrebi Seqmnili. TurqeTSi qarTveloba erTmaneTis gverdiT dgas, ar iviwyebs istoriul samSoblos da yvelafers akeTebs, raTa xeli Seuwyos Tanamemamuleebis winsvlas.
– yvelafer amas es centrebi uzrunvelyofs?
– Tqven warmoidgineT, sakmaod gamarTulad funqcionirebs da sxvadasxva RonisZiebas awyobs – rogorc kulturuls, ise ekonomikurs. qarTvelTa msoflio centrs Tu CamovayalibebT, gacilebiT meti gasaqani gveZleva. ramdeni qarTveli cxovrobs ucxoeTSi, erTsa da imave qveyanaSi da arc ki ician erTmaneTis arseboba.
– bevri imasac gvirCevs, ucxoeTSi qarTvels Tu Sexvdebi, gverdi auareo. . .
– es centri iqaur qarTvelebs daexmareba rogorc iuridiulad, ise SromiT mowyobaSi, Catardeba RonisZiebebi, romlebic uzrunvelyofs qarTvelebis farTomasStabiani Sexvedrebis organizebas, rac, isev da isev, Cvens qveyanas waadgeba. dameTanxmeT, Zalian saintereso ideaa, magram guli mwydeba, rom yvelaferi sityvebis doneze rCeba da jerjerobiT veravin aqcia realobad. daqsaqsulia qarTveloba da aucilebelia misi Sekreba. marTalia, erT periodSi aWaris savaWro palataSic gamogviyves ofisi, magram ratomRac ver warimarTa yvelaferi im doneze, rogorc CanafiqrSi gvqonda, Seyovnda rigi RonisZiebebis Catareba. am centrs axla sxva datvirTva misces, Cven ki kvlav ofisis gareSe davrCiT. sxvaTa Soris, socialuri qselis meSveobiT qarTvelTa msoflio centri axerxebs funqcionirebas, gvikavSirdebian qarTvelTa saTvistomoebi sxvadasxva qveynidan, magram dameTanxmeT, Tu centrs ar eqneba saTanado iuridiuli statusi, rom CavrToT Sig gavleniani organizaciebi Tu cnobili fizikuri pirebi, manamde ver gava saerTaSoriso masStabebze.
– rac Seexeba agroseqtors, ra samuSaoebs atarebT da ras sTavazobT am sferos warmomadgenlebs?
– jer kidev 2012 wels davafuZne Sps `ojaxi.ji~. igi Tavdapirvelad iTvaliswinebda ojaxebis socialuri qselis Seqmnas. sxvadasxva garemoebis gamo, am Sps-m Tavi ver gaarTva sakuTar funqciebs. 2017 wels TurqeTis moqalaqem, Cemi gvaris kacma SemomTavaza agroseqtorSi erTad muSaoba Candleris jiSis kaklis juja nergebis gamravleba-realizaciisTvis.
– riTi gamoirCeva is sxva jiSebisgan?
– Candleri Cvens miwaze axla ikidebs fexs, samagierod, masze moTxovna mkveTrad izrdeba. juja kakali nayofs dargvidan mexuTe wels iZleva da Zalian msxmoiarea. aqve aRvniSnav, rom Candleris kakali amerikuli jiSia, romelic gamoiyvanes paradoqsis saZireze, kaliforniaSi 1979 wels, saqarTveloSi ki 2014 wels Semoitanes da aq warmatebiT gaiara adaptacia. Candleris kakali swrafad gavrcelda msoflioSi Tavisi upiratesobis gamo. nayofs aqvs Txeli naWuWi da TeTri guli. nigozis gamosavlianoba 60%-ia. aqvs saSualod motkbo gemo. cximianoba 63-68%, amasTan, uxvmosavliania. nayofis mocemis sruli faza iwyeba dargvidan 8 weliwadSi.
– ras urCevT maT, vinc am nergebis gaSenebiT bizness dagegmavs?
– aucilebelia xarisxiani nergebis SerCeva, rasac swored Cveni Sps uzrunvelyofs. ukeTesia, Tu nergi iqneba sertificirebuli, simaRleSi 80 sm-ze meti. am nergebis safuZvelze marTlac SesaZlebelia seriozuli biznesis awyoba, radgan nigozi Zvirad fasobs, Tanac Candleris jiSis kakalze gacilebiT didi moTxovnaa msoflio bazarze, rogorc vTqvi, swrafad izrdeba, kargad mravldeba da maRalmsxmoiarea.
– sxva nergebis realizaciasac xom ar gegmavT?
– vapirebT dekoratiuli mcenareebis nergebis gaxarebas maTi Semdgomi realizaciis mizniT.
– sanerge meurneoba sad gaqvT?
– meurneoba jer ar gvaqvs, arada, Zalian sarfiani saqmea, SesaZlebelia misi aq gamarTva da xalxis dasaqmeba. vapirebT rogorc Candleris nergebis gamoyvanas, ise kivis baRis gaSenebas, romelic Zalian kargad gadis eqsportze. am mizniT mivmarTeT aWaris mTavrobas ColoqTan 20 heqtari miwis nakveTis grZelvadiani ijariT gamoyofis Taobaze, magram jerjerobiT ver SevTanxmdiT. biurokratiuli barierebi rTulad dasaZlevi aRmoCnda. am etapze sxva gamosavali ar gvaqvs, imereTSi vapirebT 5 heqtarze Candleris jiSis damynas rogorc qarTul, ise e.w. kerketa kakalze. imedi gvaqvs, es sruliad axal SesaZleblobebs gauxsnis fermerebs rogorc kaklis mowevis, ise misi realizaciis kuTxiT. gvinda dekoratiuli naZvebis, sxvadasxva saxis yvavilis gamoyvanac.
– nergebs ra fasad yidiT?
– nergebis fasi mis moculobasTan erTad 10-17 laramde meryeobs. 17 larad oTxwliani nergi iyideba. martis bolomde SesaZlebelia misi SeZena da dargva.
– ratom ar erTvebiT saxelmwifos mier ganxorcielebul agroproeqtebSi?
– CarTuli varT proeqtSi `danerge momavali~, TurqeTidan importis Semotanaze. 70% Tanadafinanseba saxelmwifosia. verafriT vityvi, rom Cveni mTavroba ar gvexmareba, magram guli gvwydeba, rom saqarTvelos sxva kuTxeebSi ufro meti popularobiT vsargeblobT, vidre adgilze. amas winaT samegreloSi radiogadacemebSi `odiSSi~ da `aTinaTSi~ migviwvies, rogorc Candleris nergebis gamavrcelebeli kompania. iq Zalian popularulia es nergebi, iTxoven dekoratiuli mcenareebis da yvavilebis Setanasac.
– ras daamatebT?
– Cemi azriT, kaklis nergebis gavrceleba Zalian simboluria CvenTvis, vinc qarTvelebis msoflio centris daarsebaze vmuSaobT. kakali xom odiTganve iyo Cveni qveynis Zlierebis simbolo. imedi maqvs ramdenime weliwadSi, agroseqtori moikrebs Zalas, Cveni Tanamemamuleebic SesZleben miwidan miiRon is dovlaTi, romelic bunebam ase uxvad mogvca, swored amiT SevZlebT davikavoT sakuTari niSa evropis bazarze.
