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`qarTulma ocnebam~ ver gabeda proporciuli arCevnebis Catareba – aseTia parlamentarTa sakmao nawilis azri dapirebuli saarCevno kanonmdeblobis reformis CaSlis gamo. Tavad mmarTveli gundi amas tragediad ar Tvlis da miaCnia, rom swored arsebuli sistemiT movida dRemde qarTuli saxelmwifo da TviT usastikesi reJimis drosac moaxerxa amomrCevelma sasurveli partiis `gayvana~
`2020 wlis arCevnebi nebismier SemTxvevaSi demokratiulad da samarTlianad Catardeba. Cven vimuSavebT, raTa euTos rekomendaciebis farglebSi mimdinare saarCevno kanonmdeblobis reforma konstruqciuli da normaluri politikuri dialogis farglebSi warmatebiT dasruldes. konsultaciebs vmarTavT saerTaSoriso partniorebTanac, rom bolomde miviyvanoT euTos rekomendaciebis gaTvaliswinebiT saarCevno kanonmdeblobis reforma~,- ganacxada am sakiTxze parlamentis Tavmjdomare arCil TalakvaZem.
ras fiqrobs da ra pozicia ukavia arasamTavrobo saerTaSoriso organizaciebs am kuTxiT, amaze saubrobs `aWarasTan~ interviuSi `samarTliani arCevnebisa da demokratiis saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis~ aWara-guria-foTis regionaluri xelmZRvaneli madona beriZe.
– mmarTveli gundis mier dapirebuli proporciuli arCevnebi CaiSala, umravlesobam ar daamtkica wardgenili kanonproeqti. rogor SeafasebT am faqts?
– proporciul saarCevno sistemaze gadasvla iyo sazogadoebis dakveTa, wlebis ganmavlobaSi am moTxovnebs vayenebdiT arasamTavrobo organizaciebi, Sesabamisad, mkveTrad uaryofiTia Cveni Sefaseba im dapirebis Seusruleblobaze, rac qveynis proporciul saarCevno sistemaze gadasvlas iTvaliswinebda.
– rogorc vici, Tqven amzadebdiT mosaxleobas axal saarCevno sistemaze gadasasvlelad.
– diax, sul axlaxan gvqonda Sexvedrebi regionebSi, sadac mosaxleobas gavacaniT saarCevno sistemis cvlilebebi da saarCevno reformasTan dakavSirebuli sxva sakiTxebi. iyo aqtiuri diskusia dagegmili cvlilebebis, misi dadebiTi Tu uaryofiTi mxareebis Sesaxeb. imis miuxedavad, rom cvlilebebi SeCerda, am mimarTulebiT muSaobas gavagrZelebT. vapirebT inovaciuri meTodebiT da Tanamedrove teqnologiebis gamoyenebiT gavzardoT amomrCevelTa informirebuloba rogorc saarCevno sistemis, aseve sxva sakiTxebze.
– ramdenad amarTlebs arCevnebis maJoritaruli sistema?
– bevri kvleva adasturebs, rom maJoritarebs kontaqti xalxTan naklebad aqvT da maJoritaruli biuroebic araefeqturad muSaobs. garda amisa, maJoritarebis garkveul nawils rame iniciativa an winadadebac ki ar aqvs dayenebuli parlamentSi. maJoritaruli sistema mandatebis arasamarTliani gadanawilebis SesaZleblobiT mmarTvel politikur Zalas ayenebda upirates mdgomareobaSi, rom saparlamento umravlesoba moepovebina.
– maJoritari deputatebi regionebSi xalxis warmomadgenlebad miaCniaT.
– rac Seexeba regionul warmomadgenlobas, Cveni organizacia Tavidanve e.w. regionul-proporciul sistemas uWerda mxars, rac uzrunvelyofda proporciul arCevnebs, magram SeinarCunebda garkveul regionul warmomadgenlobas. samwuxarod, sakonstitucio reformis procesSi, mmarTvelma partiam am models mxari ar dauWira.
– ras gvetyviT CaSlili sakanonmdeblo reformebis Sesaxeb?
– misasalmebelia cvlilebebi partiebis dafinansebis kanonmdeblobaSi, ris mixedviTac, 2020 wlis arCevnebis mere, amoqmeddeba e.w. regresuli dafinansebis modeli da saxelmwifo dafinanseba politikur partiebs Soris ufro gaTanabrdeba. meore mxriv, problemuria SemoTavazebuli cvlilebebi saarCevno kodeqsSi. maT Soris, SemaSfoTebeli iyo gamoxatvis Tavisuflebis da mediis SemzRudveli regulaciebi TiTqosda siZulvilis enasTan brZolis motiviT. aseTi regulaciebi tovebs STabeWdilebas, rom SesaZloa SerCeviTi gaxdes kritikul poziciaze myofi pirebis mimarT. am sakiTxebze saarCevno reformis samuSao jgufSi kvlavac mimdinareobs msjeloba da imedi gvaqvs, rom Cveni SeniSvnebi srulad iqneba gaTvaliswinebuli da sadavo problemuri sakiTxebi kanonSi ar moxvdeba. amas garda, saarCevno kodeqsSi cvlilebebi ver pasuxobs saarCevno komisiebis dakompleqtebis kuTxiT arsebul gamowvevebs, administraciuli resursebis gamoyenebis problemas, saarCevno davebSi arsebul xarvezebs da sxva rig sakiTxebs, rac Cveni Tu saerTaSoriso sadamkvirveblo misiebis mier aris gamovlenili, rogorc problemebi.
– rogor fiqrobT, ra unda gakeTdes qveyanaSi saarCevno kodeqsis gaumjobesebisaTvis, saarCevno da politikuri garemos gakeTilSobilebisaTvis? rogorc vici, am kuTxiT Tqvens organizacias garkveuli wvlili aqvs Setanili.
– yvelaze mniSvnelovani aris politikuri neba, raTa SesaZlebeli iyos arsebuli kanonmdeblobis aRsruleba. miuxedavad bevri xarvezisa, dRes arsebuli kanonmdeblobac ki sakmarisia arCevnebis Tavisufal da Tanaswor garemoSi Casatareblad. saarCevno kodeqsiT amomrCevelze zewola-muqara isjeba, akrZalulia amomrCevlis mosyidva, dadgenilia Sesabamisi SezRudvebi administraciuli resursis gamoyenebis aRsakveTad, Tumca, samwuxarod, ar aris saTanado reagireba msgavs faqtebze.
– mosyidvebSi kreditebis ganulebas gulisxmobT, riTac biZina ivaniSvilis fondi sasowarkveTilebamde misul adamianebs daexmara?
– diax, es amomrCevlis mosyidvis kargi magaliTia. swored arCevnebze dadga da gadawyda 600.000 amomrCevlisTvis valebis ganulebis sakiTxi. es iniciativa, saqarTveloSi arsebuli 3 sxvadasxva kanoniT, pirdapir klasificirdeba rogorc amomrCevlis mosyidva. miuxedavad amisa, cxadia, ar arsebobda politikuri neba, Sesabamisi msvleloba miscemoda am saqmes.
– kidev romeli magaliTis moyvana SegiZliaT arCevnebis dros zewolis Sesaxeb?
– amis naTeli magaliTia ia kerzaias saqme, romelic Cvenma organizaciam detalurad Seiswavla da gamoavlina araerTi saeWvo garemoeba, rac zugdidis #6 skolis inspeqtirebis savaraudo politikur motivze miuTiTebs. miuxedavad amisa, prokuraturam ia kerzaias saqmis gamoZieba daxura. garkveul SemTxvevaSi erTi da igive saxis saarCevno davaze sasamarTloebis araerTgvarovani gadawyvetilebebi gvaqvs. SegviZlia usasrulod visaubroT kanonmdeblobaSi Sesatan cvlilebebze an dausruleblad vecadoT yvelafris kanonSi Caweras. Tumca, Tu ar iqneba am kanonis aRsrulebis da Semdeg saTanado samarTlebrivi RonisZiebebis gatarebis politikuri neba, saukeTeso kanonmdeblobasac ki azri ar eqneba.
– migaCniaT Tu ara, rom momavali saparlamento arCevnebi obieqturad Catardeba? bevri opozicioneri elis darRvevebs da totalur gayalbebebs. . .
– rogor Caivlis 2020 wlis arCevnebi, amis winaswar Sefaseba Znelia, magram, vfiqrob, 2012 wlis saparlamento arCevnebis msgavsad, 2020 wlis arCevnebic erT-erTi rTuli iqneba. ukve vxedavT niSnebs, rom qveyana winasaarCevno kampaniis reJimSi gadadis. gasul arCevnebze arsebuli gamowvevebis gaTvaliswinebiT, maT Soris socialur mediaSi mimdinare diskreditaciuli kampaniebis fonze, rac ar cxreba da ufro Zlierdeba, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom win sakmaod daZabuli winasaarCevno periodi gvelodeba.
– saarCevno reformis Sesaxeb rogori saxiT awvdiT informacias amomrCevlebs, partiebs?
– amomrCevlebTan komunikaciis erT-erTi mTavari arxi mediaa, Tumca, rogorc giTxariT, periodulad vatarebT regionul Sexvedrebs da mrgval magidebs dainteresebuli pirebis monawileobiT, aqtiurad viyenebT socialur medias, magram gvaqvs survili, kidev ufro gavaZlieroT Tanamedrove sakomunikacio arxebis gamoyeneba. partiebs rac Seexeba, maTTan samuSao Sexvedrebs, ZiriTadad, centraluri ofisi marTavs.
– radgan medias SevexeT. . . ramdenad sworad migaCniaT sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis bordis gadawyvetileba aWaris televiziis direqtoris gadayenebasTan dakavSirebiT? TvliT Tu ara, rom televiziis irgvliv ganviTarebuli procesebi politizebulia?
– yvelaze mZimed da gulsatkenad maxsendeba is periodi, roca aWaris televizia departaments warmoadgenda. im droisaTvis, faqtobrivad, mesame seqtoris da xalxis xma ar ismoda tele-ekranidan, CvenTvisac miuRweveli iyo rame saganmanaTleblo gadacemis moxvedrac ki eTerSi, radganac mesame seqtors partiebad aRiqvamdnen. axali xelisuflebis mosvlis Semdegac rTuli gza gaiara da araerTi gamowvevis winaSe dadga aWaris televizia, magram sabolood sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis statusi udidesi monapovaria maTTvisac da regionisTvisac. kvlevebi da sazogadoebis Sefasebac adasturebs aWaris sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis maRal reitingsa da sandoobas, rac maTi obieqturi muSaobis Sesafasebeli mTavari indikatoria. amaSi mniSvnelovani wvlili miuZRvis naTia kapanaZes. sazogadoebrivi mauwyebeli politikuri zegavlenis mosaxdenad ar unda gamoiyenos xelisuflebam. vfiqrob, TiToeuli iq momuSave Jurnalistis SemarTeba yvelaze mniSvnelovani muxtia politikuri gavlenebis winaaRmdeg.
– `rusTavi 2~-Tan dakavSirebuli movlenebis Tqveneuli Sefaseba. . .
– araerTi welia, vxedavT xelisuflebis cxad interess, procesi konkretuli SedegiT da mflobelis cvlilebiT damTavrebuliyo. SesaZloa, `rusTavi 2-is~ saredaqcio politika bevrisTvis mosawoni ar iyo, magram is Riad opoziciur platformas warmoadgenda da mniSvnelovan rols asrulebda kritikuli, xelisuflebisgan damoukidebeli azris gavrcelebisa da, zogadad, mediasivrcis dabalansebis kuTxiT. samwuxarod, arxis mflobelis cvlilebam cxadad gvaCvena, rom gamarTlda arsebuli molodini – jer sainformacio samsaxuris xelmZRvanelebi da mniSvnelovani saxeebi daiTxoves, Semdeg misi saredaqcio politikac nakleb kritikuli gaxda.
– ramdenad daculia genderuli balansi TviTmmarTvelobebis sakrebuloebSi?
– am mxriv viTareba arcTu saxarbieloa rogorc parlamentSi, ise TviTmmarTvelobebSi. bolo mowvevis parlamentSi deputatTa mxolod 16%-ia qali, TviTmmarTvelobebSi, qveynis masStabiT, arCeuli deputatebidan 13%-s warmoadgenen qalebi, maT Soris, aWaraSi, kerZod, xulosa da qedaSi qalebis warmomadgenloba saqarTvelos masStabiT erT-erTi yvelaze mcirea – 3.6% da 4.2%. Cvens TviTmmarTvelobebSi proporciuli sistemiT yvelaze naklebi qalia, xolo maJoritaruli sistemiT bolodan meore adgilzea regionebs Soris. es, cxadia, mniSvnelovani gamowvevaa da swored amitom, Cveni organizacia wlebia advokatirebas uwevs savaldebulo genderul kvotirebas, rogorc droebiT zomas, raTa qalTa warmomadgenloba arCeviT organoebSi mniSvnelovnad gaizardos.
