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naxevar saukuneze metia vaso ximSiaSvili sazogadoebriv-sasargeblo Sromasa da erovnul moZraobaSia CarTuli. sul male mas dabadebidan 70 weli usruldeba. misi cxovrebiseuli pozicia, saqmisadmi keTilsindisieri da keTilgonivruli midgoma sanimuSo magaliTia momavali Taobisa da misi TanamedroveebisaTvis. vaso ximSiaSvili dRes Cveni stumaria.
– saubari bolo wlebis magaliTebiT minda daviwyoT. . .
– Suaxevis kulturis centris jer direqtoroba, Semdeg reJisoris Tanamdeboba rom damatovebines da pensiaze gavedi, zogierTs egona, saxlSi gamoviketebodi, Suaxevs mivatovebdi da yovelgvar saqmianobas CamovSordebodi. mSobliur sofel nigazeulSi geografiis maswavleblis vakansia iyo. skolis direqtoris, zogierTi maswavleblis TxovniT, Cems ZiriTad profesias da mSobliur sofels davubrundi. 5 welia pedagogis sapatio saqmes vuZRvebi. koleqtivSi – misaRebi da saqmiani, moswavleebisaTvis – sayvareli maswavlebeli var. sasertifikacio gamocdebi warmatebiT Cavabare. axla ufrosi maswavleblis statusis mosapoveblad yvela barieri gadavlaxe da Sedegs velodebi.
– ar girTuldebaT Tanamedrove teqnologiebTan, swavlebis formebsa da meTodebTan Segueba?
– piriqiT, sixalises, siaxleebTan da wignTan muSaobas mavaldebulebs. cxovreba wignis gareSe ver warmomidgenia. wignadi fondiT mdidari saojaxo biblioTeka maqvs. iseTi unikaluri gamocemebis mesakuTre var, romlebic bibliografiul iSviaTobadaa miCneuli. presaSi, kulturis centrSi muSaoba maiZulebda kompiuterul teqnologiebs Cavwvdomodi da gamomeyenebina.
– presasTan ra gakavSirebdaT?
– SoTa rusTavelis saxelobis baTumis saxelmwifo pedagogiur institutSi swavlis periodSi gazeT `sabWoTa aWarisa~ da Suaxevis raionul gazeT `droSis~ redaqciebTan vTanamSromlobdi, werilebTan erTad megobrul SarJebs vbeWdavdi. xatva maSinac mitacebda da axlac ver velevi. xatvis unarma SemaZlebina monawileoba mimeRo Suaxevis gerbisa da droSis eskizis Seqmnis konkursSi, romelSic gavimarjve da Suaxevis raionis gerbi da droSa Cemi eskiziTaa damtkicebuli. muSaoba ganawilebiT 1972 wels mSobliur nigazeulis saSualo skolaSi biologia-qimiis maswavleblad daviwye, 1973 wels raionis partiuli xelmZRvanelis mixeil xozrevaniZis rekomendaciiT furtios saSualo skolis direqtoris moadgiled gadamiyvanes saswavlo-aRmzrdelobiTi muSaobis dargSi. CemTvis didi pativi iyo memuSava da meswavla saxalxo ganaTlebis iseTi amagdarebisagan, rogorebic daviT lomTaTiZe, levan beriZe da vaxtang makaraZe iyvnen. im xanad Suaxevis raionul gazeTs jer cnobili Jurnalisti sergo kakauriZe, Semdeg publicisti mixeil zosiZe xelmZRvanelobda. maTi rekomendaciiT `droSis~ redaqciaSi korespondentis Tanamdebobaze daviwye muSaoba. raionis maSindeli xelmZRvanelis nodar cecxlaZis rekomendaciiT, Suaxevis axalgazrdobis winamZRolTa rigebSi Cavdeqi. sapasuxismgeblo Tanamdebobebi mqonda partiis Suaxevis raikomSi, saidanac Suaxevis kulturis ganyofilebis gamgis Tanamdebobaze damniSnes. CemTvis didi pativi iyo gamegrZelebina is saqmiani atmosfero, romelic winamorbedebma vaxtang zoiZem, konstantine beriZem, mixeil zosiZem, aleqsandre da suliko futkaraZeebma datoves.
– ramdenad gaarTviT Tavi?
– sazogadoebam, qarTuli kulturis mesveurebma gansajon is saqmeebi, rac am sferoSi TanamdgomebTan erTad gavakeTe. Suaxevs, aqaur xelovnebas ucxoeTSi gaecnen. 1987 wels, 18 dRiT, saraiono kulturis saxlis 35-kaciani ansambli rumineTSi, sabWoTa kulturis dReebSi monawileobda. dauviwyaria 1993 wlis ivnisis dReebi, roca Suaxevis raionis maSindeli gamgeblis anzor gogitiZis xelmZRvanelobiT 80-wevriani folkloruli ansambli TurqeTis respublikis galaTasarais saerTaSoriso folkloris festivalze migviwvies. festivalis laureatebi gavxdiT. CemTvis dauviwyari iqneba inegolSi gamarTuli koncerti da Sexvedrebi. man safuZveli daudo `Cveneburebis festivals~, aqauri da iqauri qarTvelebis urTierTobebs. wels `Cveneburebis festivali~ meoced gaimarTeba. Tu miwveva iqneba, siamovnebiT daveswrebi.
– marto am festivaliT Semoifargla Tqveni saqmianoba?
– qveynisaTvis Znelbedobis wlebSi SuaxevSi kulturuli cxovreba saTanado doneze idga. axla moqmed folklorul ansamblebs (`Suaxevi~, `fesvebi~, `mareTi~) im wlebSi Caeyara safuZveli. yvela TemSi, sofelSi gvqonda da nayofierad muSaobda kulturis saxli, klubi, biblioTeka, gvyavda ansamblebi, mxatvruli brigadebi, Semsruleblebi, rac sofels axmianebda da acocxlebda. niSandoblivia, rom 1997 wels, pirvelad damoukidebel saqarTveloSi, Catarda xalxuri Semoqmedebis festivali, sadac aWara gamovida gaerTianebuli 80-kaciani ansambliT, romlis ZiriTadi Semadgenloba – 49 monawile Suaxeveli iyo. pirveli adgili aviReT. swored im wlebSi daixvewa da SemoqmedebiTad gamravalferovnda `Suaxevobis~ dResaswauli. davafuZneT `mareTobis~, `selimobis~, `jvarimindvrobis~ saxalxo dResaswaulebi. saqarTvelos damoukideblobis gamocxadebamde, sabWoTa kavSirSi damkvidrebul dargobriv saqmianobaSi warmatebebisaTvis aWaris gardamavali droSa Suaxevs gadaeca 1987 wels da is 1990 wlamde raionis kulturas ar dauTmia. 2004 wels, `nacionaluri moZraobis~ mmarTvelobis dros, goka gabaSvilis kulturis ministrobisas, Sejamda saqarTvelos raionebis kulturul-SemoqmedebiTi saqmianoba da Suaxevi pirvel xuTeulSi moxvda, me madlobis werili da 500 laris premia miviRe, Tumca momdevno wels aWaraSi kulturis ganyofilebebi amave partiam gaauqma da 7 weli umuSevari davrCi.
– warsulis nostalgia xom ar gaqvT?
– warsulis ganqiqeba sikeTes ar mogvitans. Cemi Taobis SuaxevelebisaTvis piradulze maRla eris, qveynis, kuTxisa da raionis interesebi idga. Cernobilis tragediam mTeli msoflio SeZra. Suaxevis raionis mkvidri, oficeri, sajaro mosamsaxure, romelic im periodSi kievSi samxedro kursebze viyavi, Sesaferis salikvidacio samuSaoebSi CamrTes. maSindeli radiaciuli gamosxivebiT miRebuli dozebi dResac maxsenebs Tavs. iq yofna da samuSaoebSi monawileoba msoflios gadarCenis tolfasad mimaCnda. 6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi Tavze Tma aRar SemrCa, sxva garemoebanic TvalnaTliv ikveTeba, magram im momentSi ukan daxeva laCrobis tolfasad mimaCnda. atomuri reaqtoris gauvnebelyofa maSin msoflios yuradRebis centrSi iyo. Cven marto sxvis Wirs ar viziarebdiT, sakuTari samSoblos interesebsac vicavdiT.
– axlac rom dadges iseTi garemoeba, ras moimoqmedebdiT?
– guli ar berdeba, grZnobisa da gonebis karnaxs asaki ar aqvs. saqarTvelosTvis Tavsac ki gavwirav Cemi didi winapariviT.
– erovnuli moZraobis saTaveebTan yofna mravals ver daufases. TamaSgare mdgomareobaSi xom ar aRmoCndiT?
– CemTvis mtkivneuli iyo, roca `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ xelisuflebaSi mosvlis pirvelive dReebidan Suaxevis raionis kulturis ganyofilebis gamgis Tanamdebobas CamomaSores. kulturis ganyofileba, rogorc mmarTveli rgoli, gaauqmes, Tumca Cemi gamocdileba, unari, SemarTeba ver Cakles. mweral da publicist Tamaz abulaZesTan, Suaxevel poet, Tedo saxokias premiis laureat zurab zoiZesa da poet da Jurnalist fridon daviTaZesTan erTad, xulos, qedis da Suaxevis raionuli gazeTebis gauqmebis Semdgom, regionuli gazeTi `mTianeTi~ davaarseT. amasTan veweodiT sagamomcemlo saqmianobas. didi zewolisa da dafinansebis yovelgvari wyaros miuxedavad, gazeTma 3 welze meti iarseba.
– ratom miatoveT misi gamocema?
– sazogadoeba saamisod moumzadebeli aRmoCnda. Jurnalistebi, opoziciuri presa xelisuflebis maSindel liderebs gulze ar exatebodaT. Cven CaTrevas Cayola vamjobineT da Suaxevis kavSirgabmulobis SenobaSi arsebul `mTianeTis~ ofiss Savi abra CamovafareT.
– xelisuflebis adgilobrivi liderebi am gadawyvetilebas rogor Sexvdnen?
– TvalTmaqcobiT. Cven guls gvikeTebdnen, Tanamdgomebs, xelmomwerebs zRudavdnen. gazeTis daxurvis gamo wuxili arc erTi raionis warmomadgenlobiTi da aRmasrulebeli organos xelmZRvanels ar gamouxatavs.
– RirebulebaTa gadafasebis Semdeg isev kulturis centris direqtoris savarZeli daikaveT. profesionalizmis faqtori iyo Tu. . .
– eqsperimentebi kulturasa da ganaTlebas sikeTes ver moutans. wina xelisuflebam, jer iyo da, kultura da ganaTleba sam municipalitetSi erT pirovnebas ando. Semdeg municipalitetebSi kulturasa da ganaTlebas erTi xelmZRvaneli hyavda (resurscentris saxiT), soflebSi biblioTekebi xelaRebiT gaauqmes, unikaluri wignadi fondebi miyar-moyares, gaZarcves da skolebs `gasufTavebuli~ miuerTes. SuaxevSi 49 sasoflo, erTi – saraiono da erTi sabavSvo biblioTeka iyo. mxolod saraiono biblioTeka darCa. xelisuflebis cvlilebis dros isev kulturis ganyofilebis anu kulturis centris direqtoroba mandes. aRarc biblioTeka iyo soflad, aRarc sasoflo kulturis saxli, aRarc sasoflo klubi da soflad sicocxle rom Cakvda, axalgazrdoba rom aRar Cerdeba, erTi mTavari faqtori esecaa, ar aqvT dasveneba-garTobis saSualeba, Sekrebis adgili.
– biblioTekebis aRdgena xom daiwyo?
– SuaxevSi pirveli kulturul-saganmanaTleblo dawesebuleba `qoxsamkiTxvelo~ 1929 wels WvanaSi gaixsna. saqarTvelos erovnuli biblioTekis direqtoris giorgi kekeliZis TaosnobiT, 21-e saukuneSi sofel WvanaSi aRadgines erT dros xelaRebiT gauqmebuli biblioTeka. ganadgurebuli wignadi fondebis Sevseba mecenatebs, bibliofilebs daakisres. adre yovelwliurad fondebi 18-20 aTasi beWduri erTeuliT ivseboda. ar ajobebda adrindeli SegvenarCunebina? es nabiji mainc misasalmebelia. kulturaSi meored rom movedi, gabedulad vityvi, sistema suls Rafavda. umokles droSi gars Semovikribe da gverdSi damidgnen aq moRvawe gamocdili muSakebi da Zveli tradicia umalve aRvadgineT, SeiZleba Tqvas, ufro winac wavediT, rac bevrisaTvis miuRebeli aRmoCnda, Tumca am sferodan wasvliT wagebuli ar var. momavali Taobis aRzrdis sapatio saqmes davubrundi. 2017 wels – `sapatio Suaxevelad~, 2019 wels `sapatio zamleTelad~ damasaxeles. kolegebTan erTad nigazeulis sajaro skolaSi uamravi dasamaxsovrebeli RonisZieba gavmarTeT, SarSan moswavleebs mesame granti movapovebine. zogierTis msgavsad qalaq baTumSi an TbilisSi sacxovrisi ar gamiCenia, mSobliur nigazeuls da Suaxevs var Sekedlebuli. iq sakuTari marjveniT naSeni saxli midgas. sami Svilis mama da 4 SviliSvilis babua var. xexils vaxareb, mamuls vuvli. mokled, did cxovrebis uarmyofi mcirediTac kmayofili var.
– yovelives is samegobroc emateba, am wlebSi rom gaiCineT.
– samegobro Cemi ganZia. zemoT Cems damkvalianeblebsa da damrigeblebze – mixeil xozrevaniZeze, nodar cecxlaZeze, daviT lomTaTiZeze, levan beriZeze, vaxtang makaraZeze giTxariT. drom marguna, saqmiani, samsaxurebrivi da samegobro urTierTobebi mqonoda murman WaRaliZesTan, mixeil zosiZesTan, aleqsandre jiblaZesTan, SoTa makaraZesTan, vladimer mamulaZesTan, anzor gogitiZesTan, raJden futkaraZesTan, vaWa WaRaliZesTan, valerian abaSiZesTan, iuri qaTamaZesTan, loman beriZesTan, mixeil daviTaZesTan, wuTisoflidan naadrevad wasul aleqsandre futkaraZesTan, amiran futkaraZesTan, alioSa ToiZesTan, rezo zanaqiZesTan da sxvebTan, romlebTan erTadac movdiodiT da axlac axlo urTierTobebi da keTili mogonebebiT vsuldgmulob.
– Tqveni pozicia, Sexedulebebi rogoria saqarTveloSi, aWaraSi arsebul viTarebaze?
– Cemi Sexedulebebi naTlad Camovayalibe 2018 wlis 25 agvistos Cem mier SuaxevSi organizebul da Catarebul RonisZiebaze warmodgenil moxsenebaSi, romelic aWaris dedasamSoblosTan dabrunebis 140 wlisTavs mieZRvna. moxseneba werilis saxiT gazeT `aWaraSi~ vrclad daibeWda. mainc unda vTqva, rac qveyanaSi xdeba, yovlad miuRebelia. SeuZlia Tu ar SeuZlia, unari aqvs Tu ara, yvela politikosobs, Tanamdebobisaken iltvis, qveynis aRmaSeneblad moaqvs Tavi da diletanti, sruliad gamoucdeli da arafris maqnisi ekranidan Tu gazeTidan, tribunidan Tu quCidan gvikiJinebs, Wkuas gvaswavlis. qveyana quCidan ar unda imarTebodes. ekrani, tribuna, saqme da samsaxuri gamocdil, profesional xalxs unda eZleodes. samSoblos siyvaruliT, politikiT, religiiT ar unda vmanipulirebdeT. gvikiJinos, SeniSvna mogvces da opoziciasa Tu poziciaSi Camidges is, vinc Tavisi TavisTvis, ojaxisaTvis, gvarisaTvis, soflisa da qalaqisaTvis, qveynisaTvis erTi wveTi ofli daRvara, erTi aguri daaSena. bolos da bolos, unda damTavrdes boroteba, siZulvili, gautanloba, dapirispireba, did-pataris da qalis daufasebloba, saxalxod gineba da bilwsityvaoba, samSoblosa da qveynis simbolikebis daufasebloba da Seuracxyofa, binZuri sacvlebis saxalxod, msoflio arenaze gamofena. `vefxistyaosnis~ qveyana mxolod siyvarulsa da megobrobaze unda Sendebodes.
– Suaxevis municipalitetis meriasTan arsebul mrCevelTa sabWos wevri xarT. gendobian?
– ndobis gareSe araferi gamova. mixaria, im saqmeebis monawile da momswre rom var, rac SuaxevSi bolo ori welia keTdeba. 2020 wels keTilmowyobili raionuli centriT viwyebT. wlebis tkivilad maqvs 2 problema: Suaxevis kulturis centris Senobis sruli reabilitacia da nigazeulis cixe-galavnis restavracia. 2014 wels kulturis centris direqtorobisas Senobis reabilitaciis proeqti gavakeTebineT, raSic 7000 lari gadavixadeT. maSindelma xelmZRvanelebma kultura prioritetad ar miiCnies da saqme aqamde movida. mixaria, rom dafinansebis sakiTxi gadawyvetilia da wels daiwyeba Senobis kapitaluri remonti, amasTan, iwyeba nigazeulis cixe-galavnis arqeologiuri gaTxrebi, rac restavraciis winapirobaa. sulierad amaRlebuli da bednieri var, rom mravali wlis natvra amixda da Suaxevis keTilmowyobil, galamazebul, umSvenieres quCebSi davdivar, rac municipalitetis xelmZRvanelobisa da Cveni parlamentaris udidesi Zalisxmevis Sedegia. kidev mravali siaxlis molodinSi var.
