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gazeT `aWaris~ mkiTxvels gvinda gavacnoT col-qmari, gamomcemloba `wignebi baTumSi~ damfuZneblebi mari korinTeli da irakli bakuriZe. orive pataraobidanve ocnebobda, wignebis maRazia hqonoda. ocneba auxdaT. amboben, rom mkiTxvelis majaze udevT xeli da grZnoben pulsacias, romlis mixedviTac gegmaven momdevno nabijebs.
– rogor gaicaniT erTmaneTi?
mari: – orive didi xania vTamaSobT `ra? sad? rodis?~ da masTan dakavSirebul sxvadasxva TamaSebs. erT-erTia `jeopardi~, romelic regularulad tardeba TbilisSi. iq gavicaniT erTmaneTi 9 wlis win. `jeopardize~ sxvadasxva ligaSi gadagvanawiles, dapirispirebul mxareebSi aRmovCndiT da me movuge. swored iqidan daviwyeT urTierToba.
irakli: – saqarTveloSi axalCamosuli viyavi – sazRvargareT vcxovrobdi. pirvelive TamaSi, romelic daviwye, iyo `jeopardi~. mivedi axal sazogadoebaSi, sadac Zalian bevri simpaTiuri axalgazrda iyo. vxedav, Semodis derefanSi gogona, romelic yvelasgan gansxvavebulia – Tavgadaparsuli, 3 zomiT didi flanelis perangiT, mokle SortebiT. . . imdenad lamazi da gansxvavebuli iyo, milion adamianSi gamoarCevdi. viwyebT TamaSs, gansakuTrebuli molodini ar maqvs, darwmunebuli viyavi, winaaRmdegobasac ver gamiwevda da… momigo. Sablonuria, albaT, magram im dRis Semdeg sxvaze aRaraferze mifiqria.
– rogor gaCnda maRaziis `wignebi baTumSi~ gaxsnis idea?
mari: – roca SevuRldiT, TbilisSi vcxovrobdiT, erTwliani Tanacxovrebis Semdeg mivxvdiT, rom rutinam CagviTria. . . adre vmuSaobdi wignebis maRaziaSi. iqidan moyolebuli, sul mindoda, wignebis sakuTari maRazia mqonoda. gavuziare iraklis Cemi survili. aRmoCnda, rom masac bavSvobidan analogiuri survili hqonda. ar vicodiT, saidan dagvewyo. Tbilisma raRacnairad dagvRala. ukve bavSvi gvyavda da vTvlidiT, rom Tbilisi Zalian mouxerxebeli iyo sacxovreblad, gaseirnebasac ki ver dagegmav, imdeni dro da mobilizeba unda. gadavwyviteT, gadmovsuliyaviT baTumSi da gvekeTebina saqme, romelic gviyvars.
irakli: – uari vTqviT yvelaferze, CavalageT Cemodani da Cveni 2 wlis gogonasTan erTad wamovediT baTumSi. davsaxldiT aq da daviwyeT fiqri imaze, rogor gagvexsna wignis maRazia. roca bizness iwyeb, minimum, iqauri bazari unda gqondes Seswavlili. Cven met-naklebad vicodiT, baTumSi ra mdgomareoba iyo am kuTxiT, magram ufro emociebze, spontanurobasa da siyvarulze iyo es gadawyvetileba dafuZnebuli. udidesi riski gavwieT, ukve zrdasrulma adamianebma cxovrebis Secvlaze vifiqreT. yvela rogorc giJebs, ise gviyurebda, ojaxis wevrebic ki, magram rac gavakeTeT, imiT Zalian bednierebi varT.
– am wlebis ganmavlobaSi ras miiCnevT gamomcemloba `wignebi baTumSi~ yvelaze did warmatebad?
mari: – yvelaze did warmatebad miviCnev imas, rom delfinislogoian wigns mkiTxveli endoba, Tvlis, rom es iqneba kargi wigni, icis, gamomcemloba ar moatyuebs, ar SesTavazebs uxarisxo produqcias. amis miRweva ar iyo advili, bevri Secdoma gvqonda, bevri xarvezi, grZeli gza gamoviareT ndobis da siyvarulis mopovebamde. gamomcemlobis arseboba kiTxvis niSnis qveS idga, magram yvela sirTule ukan movitoveT.
irakli: – socialur qselSi uamravi adamiani gvwers da ndobas gvicxadebs. es siyvaruli CvenTvis Zvirfasia. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom mkiTxvelis majaze gvidevs xeli, viciT, ra surs, risi molodini aqvs da ase Semdeg.
– rogoria qarTveli mkiTxveli, ras aniWebs upiratesobas, ra niuansebia misTvis mTavari?
mari: – is yvelafers aqcevs yuradRebas, Zalian kritikulia, pretenziuli, rac kargia. ar gpatiobs arafers, arc xarisxis davardnas, stilistur xarvezze aRar maqvs saubari, Zalian ganaTlebuli da dakvirvebulia. roca is Sens gamocemul wignSi Tanxas ixdis, iTxovs maqsimums. zustad mkiTxvelis kritikam gagvzarda Cven. Tavidan gvqonda xarvezebi, zogjer koreqturac ipareboda. ukve SemiZlia xmamaRla vTqva, rom dRes ra wignebsac gamovcemT, faqtobrivad, srulyofilia. es aris mkiTxvelis damsaxureba.
– baTumze wignis dawera rom gTxovon, ras mouyvebodiT mkiTxvels?
mari: – me Tbiliseli var, magram rogorc ki movuaxlovdiT baTums da gamoCnda naxevarkunZuli, mivxvdi, rom samSoblo da saxli SeiZleba iq ar iyos, sadac daibade da gaizarde. baTumSi fexis CamodgmisTanave vicodi, rom Cemi saxli iyo aq. maxsovs, erT-erTi axali weli baTumSi gavatare, evropis moedanze. maSin Cavifiqre aq cxovreba da amixda. uamravi qalaqi maqvs nanaxi, magram vici, rom saxli aris aq. megobrebs veubnebi xolme, rac unda problema gqondes, SeuZlebelia, baTumSi Tavi didxans igrZno cudad, aq raRacnairi, jadosnuri garemoa. mxolod silamazeze ar aris saubari, adamianebi, kultura, cxovrebis ritmi gexmareba imaSi, rom bednieri iyo.
irakli: – baTumi CemTvis cocxali organizmi, megobari, mSobelia, yvelgan kargad vgrZnob Tavs. Cems baTums mudmivad erTi surneli aqvs – zRvis da magnoliis.
– romel wignSi imogzaurebdiT didi siamovnebiT?
mari: – vimogzaurebdi dimitri gluxovskis trilogiaSi `metro 2033~. unikaluri samyaro aRwera man masSi. saubaria adamianebze, romlebic atomuri afeTqebis Semdeg Cadian metroSi da miwisqveS iwyeben cxovrebas. iqac akeTeben igives, rasac akeTebdnen miwis zemoT, anu ver swavloben Wkuas. saocrad aqvs aRwerili adamianebis fsiqologia, is, Tu rogor ar icvlebian isini arsad.
irakli: – albaT, vimogzaurebdi jo aberkromis fentezis, Suasaukuneebis samyaroSi, sadac arsebobs magia. es aris mkacri da daundobeli samyaro, ubralod, Zalian adamianuri.
– Cvens mkiTxvels urCieT sam-sami avtori, romlebsac TvliT, rom adamianis cnobierebis CamoyalibebaSi udidesi rolis Sesruleba SeuZlia.
irakli: – pirveli, es aris rei bredberis `babuawveras Rvino~. me rom axla Tineijeri viyo da viwyebde didi literaturis kiTxvas, bredberi iqneboda, visac wavikiTxavdi da vinc Seuwyobda xels ukeTes adamianad Cems Camoyalibebas. es is mweralia, vinc kargad icnobs adamianis suls, mis bnel mxareebsac. meore iqneba deniel kizi, mwerali, romelic Cveni gamomcemlobis siamayea, bolo wlebSi saqarTveloSi mis romanze `yvavilebi eljernonisTvis~ yvelaze didi moTxovnaa. mesame avtorze mTeli Cemi cxovrebaa damokidebuli. es aris dostoevski, mwerali, romelic yvelaze kargad icnobs adamianis dafarul mxareebs, gansakuTrebiT Tineijerul asakSi Zalian mniSvnelovania misi wakiTxva.
mari: – erT-erTi aucileblad iqneba margaret etvudi, Tanamedroveobis gamorCeuli mwerali, romelsac aqvs Zalian saintereso xedva, Tu saiT midis Tanamedrove sazogadoeba da civilizacia. yvelam unda waikiTxos misi wignebi, romelic exeba qalTa Zaladobas, Cagvras, religias. yvelam rom waikiTxos misi wignebi, msoflioSi Semcirdeba qalTa Zaladoba. meore avtori, romelsac vTvli, rom SeuZlia cnobierebis amoyiraveba, aris filip diki, amerikeli fantasti. vamayobT, rom Cvens gamomcemlobas dikis 8 wigni aqvs naTargmni. mesame ki vaJa-fSavelaa, Cemi sayvareli qarTveli avtori, romelic aris Zalian Tanamedrove, humanuri da Zalian Rrma.
– gzavnili mkiTxvels. . .
irakli: – vici, waikiTxaven am intervius Cveni mkiTxvelebi da minda vuTxra maT, rom gamomcemloba `wignebi baTumSi~ arasodes waiqceva. SeiZleba waborZikdes, magram yovelTvis wamodgeba fexze da iqneba maT samsaxurSi. bolo periodSi bevrs Seepara amaSi eWvi, magram davdeqiT fexze da es ganapiroba mkiTxvelebis siyvarulma. Cvenc Zalian gviyvars isini da araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar davaRalatebT. gaormagebuli energiiT vagrZelebT muSaobas da Zalian bevr saintereso siaxles vpirdebiT mkiTxvels.
