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araerTi iseTi niWieri, warmatebuli da mizanswrafuli axalgazrda hyavs aWaris regions, romelic cdilobs, sargebloba moutanos qalaqs, qveyanas da Seqmnas rame, rac ukeTes xvalindel dRes ganapirobebs. aseTia gaeros ganviTarebis programis proeqt `mwvane qalaqebis~ xelmZRvaneli laSa nakaSiZe, romelic TanamoazreebTan erTad yvelafers akeTebs, baTumi bevrad mimzidveli, ekologiurad sufTa da saintereso rom gaxdes. dRes igi Cveni stumaria.
– bavSvoba da Semdegi wlebi. . .
– davibade da gavizarde TbilisSi, mTeli bavSvoba da studentoba iq gavatare. es iyo wlebi, roca narkomania `yvaoda~, arsebobda e.w. saZmoebi, Tumca Cemi mSoblebis damsaxurebiT da, SeiZleba iTqvas, mZime SromiT me da Cems Zmas mtkivneulad ar Segvxebia am periodis uaryofiTi aspeqtebi, maT Soris gaWirveba. maT ZiriTadi aqcenti ganaTlebaze gaakeTes da Cvenc am mimarTulebas gavyeviT. rogorc bevr bavSvs, mec kosmonavtoba mindoda-meTqi, rom giTxraT, mogatyuebT. raime gansakuTrebuli interesi arc mqonia, yvela sagans erTnairad vswavlobdi. Semdeg Cavabare sabanko specialobaze, radgan maSin am mimarTulebis ganviTareba axali dawyebuli iyo. erTgvarad, romantikuladac ki gveCveneboda es sfero kargi anazRaurebis da prestiJulobis gamo, magram Cavabare Tu ara, maleve mivxvdi, rom es is ar iyo, rac me mindoda. miuxedavad aseTi ganwyobisa, 6 weli, magistraturis CaTvliT, mainc viswavle. mogvianebiT sruliad SemTxveviT aRmovCndi aWaraSi, romlis mTavrobis aparatSi staJireba iyo gamocxadebuli. CavTvale, rom sajaro samsaxuri saintereso iqneboda CemTvis, reziumesTvis erTgvar gamocdilebasac davagrovebdi. amisTvis Camovedi 3 TviT 2010 wels da es ukve 10 welia grZeldeba. amJamad SeiZleba iTqvas, rom Cemi profesiuli interesis mTavari mimarTuleba urbanuli ganviTarebaa.
– mogviyeviT proeqt `mwvane qalaqebze~, romelsac xelmZRvanelobT. . .
– am etapze or proeqts vxelmZRvanelob, erT-erTia `mwvane qalaqebi~. marTalia, saxelwodeba Zalian farTo speqtrs moicavs, Tumca baTumis SemTxvevaSi es gulisxmobs urbanuli, saqalaqo transportis sistemebis mowesrigebas, optimizacias, rac gulisxmobs sazogadoebrivi transportis, qveiTebisaTvis infrastruqturis, parkirebisa da velosistemebis ganviTarebas qalaqSi. aRniSnuli proeqti 2015 wels daviwyeT, Tumca manamde baTumis meriaSi vmuSaobdi, rodesac, zogadad, proeqtis ideaze daiwyo msjeloba. daaxloebiT 5-6 wlis win mivxvdiT, rom qalaqis satransporto sistema male didi problemebis winaSe dadgeboda. aseTi termini arsebobs – `suiciduri qalaqebi~, raSic igulisxmeba qalaqebi, romlebSic satransporto sistema mouwesrigebelia da rogorc wesi, aseTi qalaqebidan mosaxleoba wasvlas cdilobs, radgan komfortulad aq gadaadgileba mouxerxebelia. am mniSvnelovan problemas SeveWideT 2015 wels. pirvel rigSi, seriozulad daviwyeT sistemis analizi, vikvlevdiT problemebs. Zalian bevri iseTi ram gavakeTeT baTumSi, rac saqarTvelos masStabiT sxvagan ar gakeTebula: modelirebebi, satransporto sistemebis kvlevebi, romlis safuZvelzec SevimuSaveT is nabijebi, Tu rogor unda gamoswordes saqalaqo transportis sxvadasxva sfero.
– amJamad ra etapzea proeqti?
– gegma, romelic davwereT, aris grZelvadiani, Sesabamisad, erT weliwadSi ver mogvardeba. Cveni mizania ramdenime saCvenebeli proeqtis dawyeba, raTa rogorc qalaqis xelmZRvaneloba, aseve mosaxleobac darwmundes, rom is midgomebi, romelic proeqtSia, amarTlebs. am etapze unda daviwyoT ramdenime sapilote proeqti, es iqneba avtobusebisTvis gamoyofili specialuri zoli, sadac sxva avtomobilebi ver imoZraveben, aseve saaTobrivi fasiani parkirebis danergva centralur quCebze, velobilikebis gagrZeleba da ase Semdeg. es aris Cveni proeqtis yvelaze mtkivneuli nawili, radgan rTulia, mosaxleobas auxsna, ratom unda gadaixados parkirebis adgilisTvis saaTobrivad, vTqvaT, erTi lari, Tumca Cven unda davarwmunoT isini, rom es proeqti sWirdeba qalaqs, raTa mogvardes satransporto kuTxiT arsebuli problemebi.
– rogor warmogidgeniaT baTumi ramdenime wlis Sedeg?
– baTumi CemTvis Zalian komfortuli qalaqia, romelic ufro metad miyvars, vidre qalaqi, sadac davibade. pirvel rigSi, erTi mniSvnelovani faqtori, rac dRes ganasxvavebs baTums sxva didi qalaqebisgan, isaa, rom miuxedavad qaosuri ganaSenianebisa da ganviTarebisa, qveiTad gadaadgileba qalaqis centralur nawilSi jer kidev Tavisufladaa SesaZlebeli. baTumi momavalSi swored iseT komfortul, kompaqtur qalaqad warmomidgenia, sadac adamianebi, ZiriTadad, fexiT gadaadgildebian da socialuri interaqcia Zalian maRalia.
– rogoria Tqveni wili baTumi?
– CemTvis baTumi asocirdeba zRvasTan. zRvis gareSe baTumi CemTvis albaT iqneboda Cveulebrivi, patara qalaqi, sadac SeiZleba ar Cavsuliyavi, raRac saqme Tu ar meqneboda. Cemi dakvirvebiT, qalaqSi, sadac aris zRva, adamianebi garkveulwilad ufro keTilSobilebi arian, anu zRva akeTilSobilebs. sxva qalaqis mcxovreblebTan SedarebiT ufro mSvidebi da modunebulebi arian baTumelebi. mimaCnia, zRva garkveulwilad meocnebes xdis adamians. viRacas SeiZleba miaCndes, rom meocnebeoba ar aris kargi, magram jansaRad meocnebe adaminebi, zogadad, cvlian samyaros, es Zalian kargi Tvisebaa. yoveldRe rom zRvas uyureb, es ra Tqma unda, Sens ganwyobaze, pirovnebaze da msoflmxedvelobaze gavlenas axdens. am yvelafers isic emateba, rom baTums aqvs porti, anu baTumelebi ufro Ria xalxia siaxlis mimarT, ucxos mimarT, aseve ufro tolerantulebi yvelafris mimarT. Semdeg rac CemTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovania, isaa, rom baTumSi dRis ganmavlobaSi SeiZleba Sexvde uamrav nacnobs, rac did qalaqebSi SeuZlebelia. iqidan gamomdinare, rom mamaCemi aris aWaridan, konkretulad qedidan, weliwadSi 3-4 Tves vatarebdi qedaSi, baTumSi, amitom es qalaqi CemTvis asocirdeba Zalian sasiamovno bavSvur mogonebebTan, bavSvobis bevri megobari myavs aq da ise vgrZnob Tavs, rogorc saxlSi.
– adgilebi aWaraSi, romlis monaxulebac energiiT gavsebs da sxvebsac urCev naxvas. . .
– botanikuri baRi. Zalian xSirad, roca kargi amindia, botanikur baRSi megobrebTan erTad an marto vseirnob. vTvli, rom xandaxan saWiroa ganmartoeba sakuTar TavTan, botanikuri baRi ki amis idealur saSualebas iZleva. ra Tqma unda, vurCev Zveli bulvaris naxvas, sanapiro zolis, saidanac daiwyo baTumis ganaSenianeba, naxon istoriuli Suqura. aseve Zalian mniSvnelovania daculi teritoriebi, gansakuTrebiT im adamianebisTvis, visac buneba uyvars, magaliTad, maWaxlis xeoba. CemTvisac aRmoCena iyo ara marto iqauri buneba, aramed mosaxleoba da misi damokidebuleba bunebisadmi. maWaxlis daculi teritoriis Seqmna-ganviTarebaSi Zalian didi wvlili Seitana baTumelebisaTvis kargad nacnobma irakli goraZem, romelic Cvens organizaciaSi swored am proeqts xelmZRvanelobs. aseve sainteresoa mtiralas tyeparki. aucileblad moinaxulon maRalmTiani aWara, Suaxevi, xulo, qeda. iseve rogorc zRva, mTebic adamianis bunebas ayalibebs, garkveuli mimarTulebiT uwyobs xels mis formirebas. is mravalferovneba, rac aWarisTvis da mTeli saqarTvelosTvis aris damaxasiaTebeli, yvelaze mosafrTxilebelia. stumrebma unda naxon da daagemovnon aWaruli samzareulo, sadac jer kidev bevri ram aris aRmosaCeni, aRsadgeni, gaecnon aWarul folklors, romelsac ansambl `elesas~ xelmZRvaneli irakli sirabiZe siRrmiseulad ikvlevs, amiT Zalian did saqmes akeTebs. vTvli, rom aseTi adamianebis damsaxurebiT bevr, miviwyebul simdidres aRmovaCenT da ganvaaxlebT.
– hobi. . . saintereso saqmianoba. . .
– bevria aseTi. . . pirvel rigSi, fizikuri aqtiuroba – curva, aseve e.w. quCis varjiSebi (Street workout), romelsac am bolo periodSi did dros vuTmob. kiTxva mniSvnelovani hobia, kiTxva mravalmxrivi literaturisa. mxatvrul literaturasTan erTad, vkiTxulob aRmosavlur filosofias, ezoTerikul literaturas da kvanturi fizikis Sesaxeb. erTi SexedviT, gansxvavebuli Cans, magram Zalian axlosaa es ori mimarTuleba erTmaneTTan da uzomod sainteresoa. mainteresebs fsiqologiac, xSirad mifiqria, profesia, romelsac avirCevdi, SeiZleba iyos fsiqologia, oRond ufro kvlevis mimarTulebiT – axal aRmoCenebze vimuSavebdi. adamianis fsiqikis, cnobierebis Seswavla zogadad, Zalian sainteresoa. kacobrioba nel-nela iTvisebs kosmoss, saocari miRwevebia teqnologiebSi, Tumca Zalian cota, albaT mdogvis marcvlisodena, viciT adamianis fsiqoemociuri da cnobierebis WeSmariti bunebis Sesaxeb anu Cveni Sinagani arsis Sesaxeb. CemTvis kargi fsiqologi asocirdeba mosmenis unarTan gansjis gareSe. mTavaria mosmenis unari da is, rom adamians exmarebi ara pirdapir, mas ar eubnebi, rom ase an ise unda gaakeTo, aramed SeaZlebino, rom TviTon mivides swor gzamde. aseve Zalian mainteresebs klinikuri hipnozi. SesaZlebloba rom mqondes, didi siamovnebiT Seviswavlidi. es iseTi Terapiuli mimarTulebaa, romelic, albaT, nel-nela ufro mniSvnelovani gaxdeba, am mimarTulebiT bevri kvleva tardeba da erT-erTi mzardi sferoa. kidev biliardia Cemi erT-erTi mniSvnelovani hobi, gansakuTrebiT – snukeri, romelic gansxvavdeba klasikuri biliardisgan, aseve fexburTi. . . mokled, mravali gataceba maqvs.
– erTi dadebiTi da erTic uaryofiTi Tviseba – SenSi. . .
– dadebiTi Tviseba albaT is aris, rom var Zalian gawonasworebuli, Tumca es ar niSnavs, rom uemocio adamiani var, ubralod, SemiZlia es emociebi saWiroebidan gamomdinare vakontrolo. cudi Tviseba isaa, rom xandaxan, Tu sakuTari Tavis gakontroleba movadune, SemiZlia saerTod araferi vakeTo didi xnis ganmavlobaSi.