,,ამიხსენით, რატომ შემამცირეს 18 წლის წარმატებული მუშაობის შემდეგ, სადაა ლოგიკა?!”
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saqarTvelos okupirebuli teritoriebidan devnilTa, Sromis, janmrTelobisa da socialuri dacvis saministroSi mimdinare reorganizaciisas, pirveli Tebervlidan samsaxuridan 30-mde socialu-ri muSaki gaTavisuflda mTeli saqarTvelos masStabiT. saministros cnobiT, maT kompensaciis saxiT ori Tvis saxelfaso anazRaureba gadaecemaT. es socialuri muSakebis gaficvidan TiTqmis erTi wlis Tavze moxda. SegaxsenebT, rom SarSan, 24 martidan socmuSakebi gaificnen, magram gaficva 4 aprils Sewyvites im imediT, rom problemur sakiTxebs saministros-Tan koleqtiuri molaparakebiT gadawyvetdnen. gaTavisuflebis Sesaxeb informacia pirvelad wels, 29 ianvars socialuri muSakebis profkavSiris warmomadgenelma qeTi xuciSvilma gaavrcela. misi TqmiT, saministros maTi gaTavisuflebis konkretuli mizezi ar ganumartavs: `erTaderTi argumenti iyo reorganizacia. sxva mizezi dasabuTebuli ar yofila, Tumca valdebuleba hqondaT, rom ganemartaT, ra niSniT SearCies es adamianebi~.
Tu ra moxda aWaraSi am kuTxiT da ratom gaaTavisufles samsaxuridan socmuSakebis didi nawili maSin, rodesac kadrebis deficiti aqvT, amaze saubrobs aWaris aw ukve yofili ufrosi socialuri muSaki nino cecxlaZe:
– SarSan ratom gaificeT?
– imis gamo, rom bavSvebs ver vaTavsebdiT saTanado centrebSi, rom mcire raodenobiT viyaviT, rom aranairi pirobebi da xelSewyoba ar gvqonda. yvelafers ver CamoTvli, Tumca Cvenma administraciam kargad icoda, raSic iyo saqme. viTxovdiT kadrebis damatebas, xelfasebis gazrdas da manqanebis gadmocemas, radgan gviWirda mivSvelebodiT im adamianebs, romlebic Cvengan daxmarebas elodnen. principSi, yovel Rones vxmarobdiT, sakuTari saxsrebiT, pirovnuli kontaqtebiT vwyvetdiT sakiTxebs da sabolood mainc vexmarebodiT bavSvebsa da moxucebs, Cven gareSe warmoudgenel viTarebaSi rom imyofebodnen.
– imis Tqma gsurT, rom akeTebdiT imaze mets, vidre amis saSualeba gqondaT?
– ra Tqma unda, amas dagidasturebT Cveni nebismieri beneficiari Tu muSaki. yvelaferi gadadioda Cvens Tavze. aravin gvekiTxeboda, rogor da ratom vakeTebdiT. mTavari iyo, davalebas rom mogcemdnen, Segesrulebina. Tanac, ar gvqonda aranairi samuSao pirobebi, zogan oTaxi ar arsebobda, saWiro saxsrebs ver vpoulobdiT, sxvagan – transporti da a.S. sxvadasxva raionSi sxvadasxva problema iCenda Tavs.
– iqneb ramdenime problema CamogviTvaloT?
– ki, rogor ara, Tundac mindobiTi da mimRebi ojaxebis, mSvileblebis treningebis dagvianeba, rac iwvevda quCaSi ayvanili bavSvis isev quCaSi darCenas, radgan bevrs ar undoda maTi ayvana sxvadasxva sirTulis gamo. aqeT fizikuri janmrTelobis mqone bavSvebis raodenobam imata, Tanac erTi mcire saojaxo saxli iyo erT bavSvze. rodesac eqmnebaT bavSvebs iq darCenis problema, mindobiT mSobels ver naxulob, radgan Zalian rTuli mosaZebnia vinme, vinc dagTanxmdeba aseTi bavSvis miRebaze. axla Tavs aRar SegawyenT yvela wvrilmanis CamoTvliT, rac, saboloo jamSi, marTlac mniSvnelovan problemebs qmnis. mokled, dagrovda es yvelaferi, rasac emateboda socialuri muSakebis simcire. unda giTxraT, rom 6-7 welia, rac CvenTan ar Sevsebula vakansia da yovelTvis ganvicdidiT kadrebis deficits. yvelaferi gadadioda im ramdenime muSakze, romelic viyaviT mwyobrSi. Cvens muSaobas Tan axlda uamravi sabuTis Sevseba, rac, TavisTavad, uzarmazari datvirTvaa, miT metes, rodesac muSaxeli ar gyofnis. amas daumateT utransportoba; aseve, vRebulobdiT adamianebs, vesaubrebodiT – yvelas Tavisi gasaWiri hqonda, rac yuradRebas da dros moiTxovs.
– elodiT gaTavisuflebas?
– ara, piriqiT, gviTxres, rom socmuSakebis Semcirebaze aranairi saubari ar iqneboda. amis Semdeg uceb Cagvitares socialur Temaze treningebi, Cagvabarebines testirebebi. Semdeg parlamentSi dagvibares, sertifikatebi gadmogvces, xolo rodesac reorganizacia daiwyo, amaze yvelas xeli mogvawerines.
– Tu Semcireba gemuqrebodaT, ratom moawereT xeli?
– imitom, rom ukve gamocxadebuli iyo, rom Semcirebebi ar iqneboda. amas adasturebda isic, rom magaliTad, aWaraSi 7 socmuSakis vakansia iyo. TavisTavad, logikaSic ar jdeba, rom Semcirebebs daiwyebdnen arsebuli sakadro deficitis fonze, Tanac, parlamentSi gamogvicxades, rom 1 ianvridan mogvemateboda xelfasebi. aqve minda giTxraT: rom ar moecaT is ori Tvis gazrdili xelfasi rogorc samuSaodan gaSvebis kompensacia, Cagviricxes momatebuli Tanxa, xelfasi kidev mogvces Zveli odenobis da dRes ukve mivxvdiT, rom aranair momatebul xelfass kompensaciad ar mogvcemen.
– mainc ra giTxres, ratom giSvebTo?
– es aravin icis, mizezad Semcireba da reorganizacia dasaxelda. Tu vityviT, rom Segvamcires profesionalizmis niSniT, amas uaryofs ukve gavlili testireba da qulebi, romelic Sromis kanonmdeblobiT sruliad akmayofilebs moTxovnebs. amasTan, aWarasa da mTel saqarTveloSi saukeTeso socmuSakad viTvlebi, rasac adasturebs uamravi madlobis werili da sigeli. yovelTvis yvelaze rTul ubnebze miSvebdnen. ufrosi socmuSaki var ager ukve ori weliwadia da aWara-samegrelo-guriis soflebi Semovlili maqvs. ase rom, araprofesionalizmis niSniT ar gavuSvivar, arc asakiT, arc ganaTlebiT, radgan sauniversiteto ganaTleba maqvs. elementarulad, yazaxeTSi gamagzavnes xuTjer, rogorc praqtikosi socmuSaki, iqaurebisTvis gamocdilebis gaziarebis mizniT. yazaxeTis parlamentSi oficialurad madlobis saTqmeladac ki mimiwvies. amixseniT, ratom Semamcires 18 wlis warmatebuli muSaobis Semdeg, sadaa logika?
– rac Seexeba komisias, romelic adgenda Sesamcirebel pirebs, wesebis sruli dacviT gaakeTa es?
– rodesac aWaridan wargzavnilebi gavediT komisiaze, romelic kanonis mixedviT, sul mcire, sami kacisgan unda yofiliyo Semdgari, mxolod ori kaciT iyo warmodgenili. yovel SemTxvevaSi, Cvens gasaubrebaze ase iyo. is mesame Semovida, aiRo Tavisi nivTebi da usityvod gavida. Tanac Cveni saubrebi ar iwereboda. gvekiTxebodnen, riTi viyaviT ukmayofilo. albaT, informacia miiRes, ra iyo gamosasworebeli. iseTi STabeWdileba damrCa, Tavidanve icodnen, rom miSvebdnen. rodesac gamovida adamiani, romelmac mauwya, rom Semcirebuli var komisiis gadawyvetilebiT, ar axsna ratom ar eswreboda im gasaubrebas komisiis yvela wevri. Tuki maTavisufleb kanonis dacviT, ratom arRvev kanons Tavad? rodesac Cagvitares treningi, maSin trenerma gviTxra: `kanoni Tqven gicavT. aranair Semcirebaze Tu samsaxuridan gaTavisuflebaze ar iqneba saubari~.
– gamodis, imitom gagiSves, rom rTuli samarTavi iyaviT?
– iqneb asecaa, Tumca, meore mxriv, Tuki rTuli samarTavi viyavi, yvelaze rTul davalebebze rogor miSvebdnen? icodnen, rom nebismier saqmes warmatebiT gavarTmevdi Tavs da ganvaxorcielebdi. bavSvis Camosayvanad sxva qveyanaSic ki Tu or muSaks uSvebdnen, me igive viTarebaSi, marto mgzavnidnen, Tan daayolebdnen: `cecxlaZe amas SeZlebs~!
– ra gamodis, Tqveni SemcirebaSi moxvedra pirovnul xasiaTs atarebs?
– ki, vfiqrob, rom iyo pirovnuli, sxva ra unda vifiqro? albaT arakomfortulad miiCnies CemTan TanamSromloba, radgan gamosvlebSi Zalian aqtiuri viyavi. rac am samsaxurSi daviwye muSaoba, lamis cocxal arqivad viqeci, mTel aWaraSi, Tuki sadme problemuri ojaxia, bavSvia, miusafari moxuci Tu umweo adamiania, yvela vici. gamodis, maT ar sWirdebaT adamiani, romelic aWaraSi Cveni sferos nebismier sirTules agvarebs, erkveva am kuTxiT regionis saWiroebebSi, aqvs uzarmazari gamocdileba socialur sferoSi. me maqvs Zalian pozitiuri urTierTobebi da komunikaciebi arasamTavrobo organizaciasTan, meriasTan, jandacvis Tu ganaTlebis saministroebTan.
– Tqven romeli wlidan muSaobT socmuSakad?
– 2002 wlidan, Tumca 2009 wlamde raionebSi ar gvyavda socmuSakebi, maSin, rodesac saqarTvelos sxva regionebSi es problema ar arsebobda. hoda, davdiodi xuloSi, SuaxevSi, qobuleTSi da a.S. aseve guriis ufrosi socmuSaki viyavi ori weli, iqac `gasworebuli~ mqonda gzebi. warmatebiT davxureT guriaSi ori bavSvTa saxli. Zalian Tavsatexi saqme iyo. samegreloSic urTules saqmeebze magzavnidnen yovelTvis.
– aseTi damsaxurebis Semdeg sxva saxis samuSao araferi SemouTavazebiaT?
– ara, ras ambobT, Cemma kolegam, imereTis ufrosma (12 raionia) socmuSakma sTxova, ar minda ufrosoba, rigiT muSakad gamiSviTo da uari miiRo. es maSin, rodesac kadrebis aseTi deficiti aqvT, miT umetes, gamocdili TanamSromlebis. iq, sadac 5 muSaki iqneba saWiro, es gogo erT dReSi moagvarebs saqmes. aseT pirovnebas uTxres uari profesiaSi darCenaze, im saqmis keTebaze, romelic uyvars da Tavisi cxovrebis mamoZravebel Zalad miaCnia. ra gamodis, arakomfortulad, arasaWirod CagvTvales?
– albaT isev da isev im gaficvis gamo?
– rogor SemeZlo uari meTqva Cemi TanamSromlebisTvis, romlebic samarTals iTxovdnen. piradi kontaqtebiTac ki vakeTebdi saxelmwifo saqmeebs. Cemi megobrebi afinansebdnen ama Tu saWiro proeqtebs. me maqvs ambicia, rom var Cems profesiaSi lideri. cxadia, rodesac damirekes da miTxres, rom aWaraSi gaficvas Cavdgomodi saTaveSi, uari ver vTqvi. ase iyo maSin aucilebeli da xom xedavT, ra miviReT.
– ras amboben saministroSi?
– jandacvis ministris moadgilis giorgi wowkolauris ganmartebiT, socialuri momsaxurebis saagentoSi reorganizacia 2019 wlis pirveli martidan mimdinareobs da socialuri muSakebisTvis yvela etapze srulyofili informacia iyo miwodebuli. `am kiTxvaze pasuxis misaRebad, isinic araerTxel yofilan CemTan da mec araerTxel gamicia am kiTxvaze pasuxi da im werilebSic, romlebic maT daegzavnaT, Tavidan bolomde aris axsnili, Tu ratom gaTavisufldnen isini… piradad ramdenjerme maqvs axsnili is viTareba, ra viTarebac SeiZleba damdgariyo am reorganizaciis farglebSi~, – Tqva man JurnalistebTan saubrisas. misive ganmartebiT, `es gaTavisufleba aris droebiTi~ da reorganizaciis Semdeg samsaxuris saStato ganrigs daemateba Tanamdebobebi, romlebzec konkursi gamocxaddeba da gaTavisuflebul socialur muSakebs masSi monawileobis SesaZlebloba eqnebaT.
– ras gulisxmobs reorganizacia?
– socialuri momsaxurebis saagentoSi mimdinare reorganizaciis farglebSi, saagentos meurveoba-mzrunvelobis funqcia gamoeyofa da axal – `saxelmwifo zrunvisa da trefikingis msxverplTa daxmarebis saagentos~ daekisreba, romelic ssip `adamianiT vaWrobis (trefikingis) msxverplTa, dazaralebulTa dacvisa da daxmarebis saxelmwifo fondis~ daqvemdebarebaSi gadava. fondis direqtor meri maRlaferiZis ganmartebiT, amgvari cvlilebebiT servisis mimwodebeli yvela uwyeba erTi qolgis qveS gaerTiandeba, rac `dadebiTi iqneba~. misive TqmiT, socialuri muSakebis saerTo raodenoba `aramc da aramc~ ar Semcirdeba da piriqiT, reorganizaciis Sedegad Seiqmneba axali vakansiebi, romlebzec Sesabamisi konkursebi gamocxaddeba, `aseve, emateba sxvadasxva funqcia maT [socialuri muSakebis] gasaZliereblad. es reforma wamoiwyo am funqciis prioritetad wamowevisTvis. Cveni samsaxurisTvis es iqneba wamyvani funqcia da yvelafers gavakeTebT imisTvis, rom gavaZlieroT es mimarTuleba, romelsac bavSvze zrunva hqvia~.
