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aWaris soflis meurneobis ministri tite aroSiZe, romelic arcTu didi xania rac am saministros xelmZRvanelobs, Tvlis, rom male soflis meurneoba aRar iqneba stagnaciur mdgomareobaSi. es sfero gaxdeba dinamiurad mzardi da qveynis ekonomikis inkluziaSi CaerTveba bolomde, rogorc misi erT-erTi mamoZravebeli Zala. Tu ra gakeTda amis misaRwevad SarSan da ras apirebs saministro samomavlod, amaze saubrobs batoni tite `aWarasTan~ interviuSi.
– ramdenad warmatebuli iyo SarSandeli weli TqvenTvis?
– daviwyoT imiT, rom 2019 wels ganvaxorcieleT sakmaod Sromatevadi da datvirTuli programebi, romelTa Sesrulebis maCvenebelma 90%-s gadaameta, aqedan gamomdinare, Tamamad SeiZleba ganvacxadoT, rom Zalian warmatebuli weli gvqonda. rac Seexeba SarSandel biujets, is ganisazRvra 15 362 854 lariT, romliTac nawilobriv dafinansda saministros centraluri aparati, a(a)ip agroserviscentri, garemos dacvisa da bunebrivi resursebis sammarTvelo, agroproeqtebis a(a)ip marTvis centri, ssip laboratoriuli kvleviTi centri da programebi.
– ra saxis samuSaoebi Caatara saministrom da riTi iyo gamorCeuli gasuli weli?
– rac Seexeba uSualod mimarTulebebs, SarSan davnergeT saganmanaTleblo da samecniero praqtika, sadac 16-ma studentma gaiara anazRaurebadi staJireba sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT. aqedan ori – damamTavrebeli kursis studenti darCa CvenTan samuSaod. swored es aris am praqtikis mniSvnelovani nawili. yovelwliurad gaizrdeba Cvens sferoSi dasaqmebuli praqtikantebis ricxvi.
– rogorc vici, intensiurad awvdidiT agrarul eqstencias fermerebs. ra Sedegi gamoiRo swavlebis am meTodikam?
– aravis sjeroda, rom eqstencia gaamarTlebda, Tumca minda giTxraT, rom ukve dainteresdnen fermerebi da mixvdnen, rom specialistebis rCeviT moyvanili da movlili produqcia gacilebiT maRal fasSi iyideba. swored eqstenciis damsaxurebaa, rom SarSan warmatebiT Catarda rogorc Txilis, ise citrusis sezoni. jamSi 2500 fermers Cautarda eqstencia.
– TxilTan dakavSirebiT marTlac uimedo mdgomareoba iyo Seqmnili. . .
– diax. maxsendeba, 2018 weli, rodesac saministroSi movedi. damxvda katastrofuli mdgomareoba Txilis seqtorSi. faqtobrivad mTliani mosavlidan jansaRi Txili Seadgenda mxolod 10 procents, anu karg SemTxvevaSi 100-dan mxolod 10 Txils amoarCevdiT. Sesabamisad, fasi meryeobda sadRac 2 laramde, isic im gamorCeuli, jansaRi Txilis Cabarebis SemTxvevaSi. maSin movaxdineT myisieri reagireba da saswrafod CamovayalibeT eqstenciis samsaxuri, romlis TanamSromlebma `kardakar~-is principiT moaxerxes TiTqmis yvela meTxile fermerTan Sexvedra maTive baRebSi. sanam ar movidoda mepatrone, manam ucdidnen eqstencionistebi. ase SevZeliT meTxileTa 95%-isTvis Cagvetarebina swavleba.
– iyo periodi, rodesac aRaravis sjeroda, rom Txilis mdgomareoba regionSi gamoswordeboda.
– swored maSin, opozicias SevxvdiT. mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris winaSe piroba davde, rom 2019 wels Txilis sezoni warmatebiT Catardeboda. cxadia, upirvelesad mqonda saqarTvelos garemosa da soflis meurneobis saministros imedi, rom maTi daxmarebiT farosanasTan brZola Sedegs gamoiRebda. marTlac masobrivad ganadgurda es mavnebeli. Sexvedrebi gavmarTeT meTxileTa asociaciis warmomadgenlebTan da erToblivad miviReT mosalodnelze ukeTesi Sedegi anu 100-dan 85 Txili jansaRi aRmoCnda. TavisTavad, radikalurad Seicvala poziciebi bazarzec. Txilis fasma miaRwia 7-8 lars.
– citrusis sezonic warmatebuli iyo?
– diax, moweuli citrusis maCvenebeli gaxldaT 55 aTasi tona. 35 aTasi ukve eqsportirebulia sxvadasxva qveyanaSi. eqsports Cveni dapirebisamebr axali bazrebi daemata. agreTve, gadamamuSavebelma sawarmoebmac imuSava Zalian kargad da sadRac 11 000 tona citrusi gadamuSavda. miiRes Sesabamisi koncentrati, romelic gadis rogorc evropis, ise aRmosavleT qveynebis bazrebze.
– romeli axali qveynebi daemata citrusis eqsportiorebs?
– singapuri, katari, slovenia, moldova, lietuva. am qveynebis bazrebze saerTod ver gadiodnen aWaris eqsportiorebi. poloneTSi ase Tu ise gahqondaT, magram sxvagan – vera. sasixaruloa, rom ucxoeli biznesmenebi dainteresdnen Cveni produqciiT da imedia, momavalSi swori politikis ganxorcielebis Sedegad, imatebs saerTaSoriso saeqsporto bazrebis raodenoba. Cveni mizania citrus-is diversifikacia, ris Sedegadac ar viqnebiT damokidebuli erT an or bazarze. ukve gveqneba Cveni niSa evropaSi, rasac Seqmnis is interesi, romelic gamoiCines sxva qveynis biznesmenebma Cveni citrusis mimarT.
– riTi gamoirCeoda wlevandeli sezoni sxva danarCenisgan?
– imiT, rom daaxloebiT 30 milioni lari Sevida qobuleTis da xelvaCauris municipalitetebis fermerTa ojaxebSi. es sakmaod didi cifria. wels 60 TeTridan iwyeboda arastandartuli mandarinis fasi da 2 lars aRwevda. Tavad fermerebis TqmiT, aseTi maRali fasi komunistebis drosac ki ar dafiqsirebula. da imasac xumrobdnen, Tu ase gagrZelda, male manqanebs yovel mtkavelSi davayenebTo. es iumori imas adasturebs, rom kmayofili darCnen da sakmaod kargi Semosavalic miiRes. vimedovnebT, momavali sezoni ukeTesi gveqneba, radgan fermerebi darwmundnen, xarisxiani mosavali meti Tanxis aRebis saSualebas iZleva.
– ramdenad arian fermerebi uzrunvelyofili meqanizaciiT?
– Cven gvqonda soflis meurneobis meqanizaciis teqnikuri saSualebebiT fermerTa da agromewarmeTa uzrunvelyofis programa, romlis farglebSic SeviZineT 300 cali motobloki, 600 cali Semasxurebeli, 5 mZime teqnika – traqtori, 5 – saxnavi guTani, 5 – siTxis gamfrqvevi da 5 – Tivis sawnexi. ase rom, am kuTxiTac mniSvnelovani nabijebi gadaidga, Tumca radikalurad sxva mimarTulebebi gvaqvs wels, rac kargad aisaxeba fermerTa ekonomikur Semosavalze.
– ras TvliT aucileblad Cveni soflis meurneobis masStaburad ganviTarebisTvis?
– mimdinare etapze aucileblobad mimaCnia intensiuri (erTgvarovani) baRebis gaSeneba did farTobebze. am kuTxiT mosaxleobis interesic dinamiurad izrdeba. SarSan movaxerxeT 50 ha-ze mandarinis baRebis gaSeneba. aseve gavaSeneT forToxali, limoni, mocvi. aqve SegaxsenebT, ufasod varigebT mosaxleobaSi naxevar heqtarze dasargav mocvis nergebs, ufro metze ki 70%-iani TanadafinansebiT. qeda-Suaxevis municipalitetebSi moTxovnaa vazis, Jolosa da kivis nergebze. SarSan avaSeneT xelvaCaurisa da qedis municipalitetebSi saCiTile da sanerge meurneobebi, romelic moemsaxureba qedis, Suaxevisa da xulos mosaxleobas. iqve gaixsna veterinaruli klinikebi, agromaRazia, sadac gaiyideba laboratoriulad Semowmebuli maRali xarisxis Sesawamli qimiuri preparatebi: pesticidebi, sasuqebi da a.S. Suaxevis municipalitetSi gaeros ganviTarebis programis saSualebiT gavxseniT servis-centri, romelic moemsaxureba mosaxleobaSi darigebuli meqanizaciis reabilitacias SeRavaTian fasebSi.
– rac Seexeba mcire meqanizacias, rogorc vici, am kuTxiTac iyo siaxle saministroSi?
– gvqonda mcire gadamamuSavebeli teqnologiebis danergvis xelSewyobis programa, romlis farglebSic mosaxleobas SevuZineT 230 separatori karaqis gamosaxdelad, Txilis sarCevi danadgari gadaveciT 20 msxvil Tems, sadac ganviTarebulia saTxile meurneobebi. aseve, meRvineobis ganviTarebisTvis, aWaris mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris uSualo iniciativiT, grZeldeba Suaxevsa da qedaSi meRvineobis xelSewyobis programa, romlis farglebSic gaveciT 60 cali e.w. cilindriani Rvinis kasri. mefutkreobis ganviTa-rebisaTvis 50 erTeuli fiWis CarCoebis asaTleli aparati da futkrebis ojaxebi gadaveciT mefutkreebs.
– samelioracio sistemebis reabilitacia jer kidev SarSan daevala Tqvens saministros, am mxriv rogor midis saqme?
– Tuki gvinda, rom dinamiurad izrdebodes soflis meurneobis ekonomika, aucilebelia sarwyavi sistemebis da saerTod, melioraciis mowesrigeba. amitom xulos, Seaxevis da qedis municipalitetebSi 12 (45 km) arxs CavutareT rekonstruqcia. wyliT maragdeba sxvadasxva sofeli da fermeruli meurneoba. wels am kuTxiT dagegmili gvaqvs milioni laris samuSaoebis ganxorcieleba, rac kidev 20 arxis aSeneba-mowesrigebas gulisxmobs.
– garemos dacvis mimarTulebiT ra gakeTda?
– yvelgan gakeTda tyeSi Sesasvleli gzebi, romelTa meSveobiTac mosaxleobas uproblemod miewodeba tyekafebis Sedegad miRebuli SeSa da xis masala. grZeldeba tyis movlis samuSaoebi. maRalmTiani aWaris gazificireba xels uwyobs tyis dazogvas. ukve intensiurad mimdinareobs gazis milebis Cayra, ris Sedegadac 30-40%-iTaa Semcirebuli SeSis moxmareba.
amasTanave, uprecedento gaxda mosaxleobasTan Cveni Sexvedrebis raodenoba. 200-mde sofelSi viyaviT, sadac interaqtiul reJimSi mimdinareobda saubrebi. aqve minda ganvacxado, rom es ar iyo Sexvedra-SexvedrisaTvis, aq ganixileboda fermerebis saWiroebebi da problemebi, rac aisaxa Cvens wlevandel biujetSi. wels kidev ufro met Sexvedrebs movawyobT.
– albaT, imitom, rom saarCevno welia?
– ara, SarSan araviTari arCevnebi ar yofila. fermerebs vxvdebiT soflis meurneobis ganviTarebisa da mosaxleobis saWirobebis ukeT gasacnobad. rodesac fermeri iqneba Cveni muSaobiT da arsebuli viTarebiT kmayofili, mxolod amis Semdeg daiwyeba Rirebulebebis jaWvis Seqmna.
– xurmis gasaRebasTan dakavSirebiT SarSan garkveuli problemebi warmoiqmna. . .
– es asea, Tumca saministros myisieri reagirebiT movaxerxeT fumigaciis centris Seqmna, raSic xeli Segviwyo saqarTvelos garemos dacvisa da soflis meurneobis ministrma. Sedegad, ukrainis mimarTulebiT aWaridan 2700 tona xurma gavida. sxvaTa Soris, aqve skeptikosTa sayuradRebod minda aRvniSno, vinc fiqrobs, rom Cveni mivlinebebi ucxoeTSi zedmeti xarjia, Cven swored piradi komunikaciebiT, konferenciebSi monawileobiT da samTavrobo doneze sakiTxis dayenebiT vagvarebT im problemebs, rac warmoiqmneba ama Tu im produqtis eqsportirebisas.
– sasaTbure meurneobebi erT-erT prioritetad iTvleboda saministroSi.
– aqac gvaqvs winsvla. CvenTvis mniSvnelovani iyo kerZo seqtorSi sasaTbure meurneobebis mowyoba. ukve miviyvaneT fermerebi im azramde, rom es iqneba maTi ojaxebisTvis damatebiTi ekonomikuri Semosavali. Cven vafinansebT kvm-ze 67 laramde. fermers gadasaxdeli rCeba 10-12 lari. sakmaod kargi pirobebia aseTi Semosavliani saqmis wamosawyebad. 2018 wels gasacemi Tanxis mxolod 50%-i gaveciT, SarSan ki moTxovnam ukve gadaaWarba miwodebas, rac saministros muSaobis kargi maCvenebelia. dablobSi ukve 5 000 kvm-ze movawyveT saTburebi sxvadasxva municipalitetSi. am saqmiT dainteresdnen maRalmTianeTSic da imedi maqvs, ase warmatebulad gagrZeldeba es programa welsac.
– axal programebze ras gvetyviT?
– 2020 wels ukve avediT erTi safexuriT maRla. aqamde ganxorcielebuli programebi gaTvlili iyo saZirkvlis gasamagreblad, anu axla ukve viwyebT fermerebis mewarmeebad Camoyalibebaze fiqrs. ukeT rom avxsna, cifrebiT getyviT: aWaris mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris iniciativiT, SevZeliT biujetidan erTi milioni laris gamoyofa fermerebis mier warmodgenili proeqtebis grantebiT uzrunvelyofisaTvis. milioni lari niSnavs 5 municipalitetSi ganxorcielebul 5 saSualo zomis proeqts, ris Sedegadac dasaqmebis maCvenebeli gadaaWarbebs asobiT adamians. amiT SevZlebT ara mxolod soflis meurneobis, aramed soflad biznesis ganviTarebas, rac gulisxmobs agroturizms, ekoturizms, soflad marnebis, saojaxo sastumroebis mowyobas. simarTle giTxraT, ar velodi, roca pirvelive jerze gamogvexmaura umsxvilesi investori saqarTvelos masStabiT Sps `aWaris wyali jorjia~, romelmac CvenTan partniorobis survili gamoTqva. 5 Tebervals gaformda urTierTTanamSromlobis memorandumi am investors, Cvensa da aWaris savaWro-samrewvelo palatas Soris soflad mcxovrebi mosaxleobis cxovrebis donis gaumjobesebis mizniT.
mTavrobis da saerTaSoriso donori organizaciebis mxardaWeriT mivaRwevT imas, rac Cven gvinda – soflis meurneoba gaxdeba qveyanaSi biznesis ganviTarebis erT-erTi ZiriTadi kera. sofels aRar mowydebian fermerebi, piriqiT, SeZleben adgilze aawyon sawarmoebi, wamoiwyon sakuTari saqme da Seqmnan dovlaTiT da keTildReobiT savse, komfortuli cxovreba qveynisa da sakuTari ojaxebisTvis.