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is, rom Teatri ver iarsebebs kritikis gareSe da kritika erT-erTi yvelaze didi iaraRia mis sworad ganviTarebisTvis, es cxadze ucxadesia. dRes Teatrmcodneebi da ara marto isini, xmamaRla saubroben, rom Tanamedrove qarTuli Teatri ver uZlebs kritikas, rom is erTgvar krizisSia da eZebs axal formebs, riTac gamoxatavs Tavis saxes, saTqmels. gazeT `aWarasTan~ qarTuli Teatris dRevandel mdgomareobasa da problemebze reJisorma qeTi doliZem isaubra, romelic, SeiZleba iTqvas, Zalian kritikuli aRmoCnda Tavisi kolegebis da zogadad, im procesebis mimarT, rac Teatrsa da mis irgvliv xdeba.
– qalbatono qeTi, rogor SeafasebT Tanamedrove qarTul dramaturgias?
– saerTod, mimaCnia, rom Tu dramaturgia aris kargi, dawyebuli Seqspiridan, damTavrebuli CexoviT da kldiaSviliT, is yovelTvis Tanamedrovea. vfiqrob, dRevandeli qarTuli dramaturgia, samwuxarod, aris Zalian dabali donis da kritikas ver uZlebs. dRes dramaturgebis erT nawils marto avsityvaoba, gineba da rac esmiT quCaSi, imis gadmotana da warmoCena Teatris saqme hgoniaT. me ase ar vfiqrob. mirCevnia klasikas mivmarTo da imiT vTqva Cemi saTqmeli, vidre gadmovitano is, rac quCaSic mesmis da maRizianebs. me ar mgonia, es yvelaferi sikeTe iyos TeatrisTvis da mayureblisTvis.
– Tu arian dramaturgebi saqarTveloSi, romlebic imsaxureben Tqvens simpaTias?
– mapatieT, magram dRevandeli dramaturgebidan veravis gamovyofdi da mivaniWebdi privilegias. mirCevnia isev sadRac veZebo avtori, vidre dRevandel qarTul dramaturgiaSi. amdeni negativi, amdeni avsityvaoba, amdeni quCaSi gagonilis `dakopireba~ arc mawyobs da arc mainteresebs, imitom – rom arafers meubneba. dRes Zalian mkacri viqnebi, Cemi pirveli profesia swored rom kritikaa. me iseTi adamianebis mowafe var (mixeil TumaniSvilis, aseve mamaCemis – siko doliZis), romlebmac kargad maswavles kargis da cudis garCeva kinoSic da TeatrSic, amitom es namdvilad ar meSleba. ver vityvi, rom dRes romelime qarTvel axalgazrda Tu axalgazrdobas gadacilebul reJisors aqvs Tavisi xelwera, ar aqvT imitom, rom ar moinaxa jer qarTvel axalgazrda reJisorebSi vinme iseTi, vinc axals ityvis, yvelaferi an e.w. iuTubidan aqvT gadmoRebuli, an raRac tendencias arian ayolilni.
– anu arc im reJisorebis namuSevrebi mogwonT, romelTa speqtaklebzec dRes anSlagia da ver gamoarCevT romelime maTgans?
– vera, vera da morCa. mapatieT. me mgonia, rom jerjerobiT iseTi individualuri afeTqeba, rogoric iyo Tavis droze TumaniSvilze, robert sturuaze, Temur CxeiZeze, medea kuWuxiZis speqtaklebze, aRar aris qarTul TeatrSi dRes. nu miwyenen axalgazrdebi, magram verafers vxedav axals. magaliTad, doi (reJisori daviT doiaSvili) iwyebda araCveulebrivad, magram mgonia, rom is ar aris im adgilas, sadac unda iyos. vfiqrob, doi bevrad ufro saintereso reJisori iyo dramatul TeatrSi. man Tavis droze TumaniSvilis TeatrSi dadga speqtakli `cxovreba idiotisa~. doi Zalian niWieri kacia, magram mgonia, rom cota xans unda gaCerdes da isev dramatul Teatrs miubrundes. iyo aseTi speqtakli – `Jolo~, CemTvis ufro es aris Wola (levan wulaZe), vidre `tanci-Smancebi~. zogierTs, modaSi rom arian dRes, hgonia, Zalian bevr, absoluturad arasaWiro nagavs Tu dayrian scenaze da mere amas `eleqtras~, `oidiposs~ Tu `medeas~ daarqmeven, es aris reJisura, ara, batonebo, es ar aris reJisoroba da morCa.
– aucileblad minda gkiTxoT baTumis dramatul Teatrze, bolo wlebSi ganxorcielebuli speqtaklebidan romels gamoarCevdiT?
– ai, magaliTad, `sindromi, anu vis ugalob, visao?~ Zalian saintereso speqtaklia, `kldiaSvili.ji~ iqneba kargi, Tu 30-40 wuTiT Semcirdeba. Zalian saintereso artistebi arian baTumis dramatul TeatrSi, andro enuqiZec saintereso reJisoria. me erT rames vusurvebdi yvela Teatrs saqarTveloSi, maT Soris baTumis dramatul Teatrsac, ra Tqma unda – Cven ar unda dagvaviwydes, rom Teatri unda iyos dResaswauli, man Sveba unda moutanos mayurebels, morCa da gaTavda. samwuxarod, dRes qarTul Teatrs aklia dResaswauli. me menatreba adreuli robiko, TumaniSvilis `WinWraqa~, Zalian damZimda qarTuli Teatri dRes da swored amitom ar aris iseTi didi afeTqebebi, rogorc wlebis win iyo.
– Tqveni speqtaklebiT axerxebT raime axlis Tqmas?
– iciT ra, Cems speqtaklebze ver vilaparakeb, Tumca radgan Cemi TiTqmis yvela speqtakli, TumaniSvilis Teatridan Cemi wamosvlis miuxedavad, repertuarSi mainc rCeba da siamovnebiT TamaSoben, ese igi moswonT. Zalian miyvars Cemi speqtakli `tramvais survili~, Tumca es speqtakli TumaniSvilis TeatrSi gaCerda, gaqra, samwuxarod.
– yvelaze mkafiod Tqveni saTqmeli romeli speqtakliT TqviT?
– CemTvis yvelaze didi speqtakli da monapovari, ra Tqma unda, aris `seroba~ .
– aucileblad minda gkiTxoT speqtaklze – `sadRac, cisartyelas miRma~. albaT, ar miwyenT, rom giTxraT, am speqtaklis naxvis Semdeg sazogadoebis arcTu ise mcire nawili aRniSnavda, rom Tqveni resursi ukve amowureT da axals verafers ambobT. . .
– rac mindoda, imas, mgoni, mivaRwie, lamazi speqtakli gamovida. msaxiobebis Zalian kmayofili var, reJisuris – ra mogaxsenoT, es sxvam unda Tqvas. yvelas Tavisi azri aqvs. amovwure Tu gadavwure, magas veravin verasdros ityvis imitom, rom, erTi speqtakli SeiZleba gamogivides, meore – vera, yvelas Tavisi azri aqvs da yvelas pativs vcem. dramaturgia xan wageSveleba, xan – ara, magram me ra amovwure, es Cemze ukeT aravin icis. aqve minda gulistkiviliT aRvniSno, rom aRar gadis speqtaklebi `vefxvi~, `kili da du~ da aqedan gamomdinare, erTi SeniSvna maqvs – mayurebeli unda moipovo, verasdros miviReb im arguments, rom ar modis mayurebeli TeatrSi. mayurebeli Tu TeatrSi ar modis, es Teatris bralia da Zalian mwydeba guli, rom ase gulwrfelad, gulRiad miwveven baTumis dramatul TeatrSi, vdgam speqtakls da mere speqtakli qreba, aRar arsebobs bunebaSi. rogor SeiZleba speqtali iTamaSo marto premieraze da mere aRarasodes dainiSnos? es ar exeba marto Cems speqtaklebs, sxva speqtaklebsac exeba… da maSin ra saWiroa amdeni xarji? amdeni wvaleba?!
– rogor fiqrobT, ra aris imis mizezi, rom xalxi ar dadis speqtaklebze?
– xelmZRvanelebi amboben, rom ver yidian bileTebs, ar modis mayurebeli. arada, baTumis dramatul TeatrSi Zalian saintereso speqtaklebi idgmeba, me mgonia, rom aq samuSao sxva mxrivaa bevri, rom mayurebeli dabrundes. baTumi Tbilisis mere gamorCeulad Teatraluri qalaqi iyo da axla ra daemarTa? amas unda seriozuli muSaoba. imedi maqvs, dramatuli Teatric daibrunebs mayurebels da Cveni speqtaklebic ar daidgmeba mxolod ori saRamosTvis. rogorc vici, Svidi adamiania piariT dakavebuli baTumis dramatul TeatrSi da axla imaT minda vkiTxo, ras akeTeben? CvenTan erTi piari iyo yovelTvis da saqme zedmiwevniT keTdeboda, swored es Temaa misaxedi. ar SeiZleba amxela fuli ixarjebodes da sadRac qrebodes speqtalebi. repertuarSi unda iyos piesebi, ranairad SeiZleba speqtakli orjer iTamaSo da mere gadaagdo, CemTvis es warmoudgenelia. aqve davsZen imasac, ar miwyinoT Sen da Senma kolegebma, mayurebeli rom ar dadis TeatrSi, es mediis bralicaa, radgan Teatrs televizia da presa Zalian unda amoudges gverdSi. Tqven modixarT marto premierebze, sxva mxriv ar aSuqebT. masmedia unda daexmaros Teatrs imaSi, rom hyavdes mayurebeli. TumaniSvilis mere gavida 30 weli da movida robikos da Temuris Taoba. ase ar xdeba, rom yovel xuT weliwadSi erTxel raRac afeTqeba moxdes TeatrSi, amitom Tqven ar unda daelodoT mxolod premierebs, unda weroT TeatrSi mimdinare Tu dagegmil procesebze, problemebze, raTa erTad veZioT gza xsnisa.
