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dRes gazeT „aWaris“ stumaria mxatvari, poeti, kuturie giorgi giovani. garda SemoqmedebiTi saqmianobisa, aqtiur sazogadoebriv saqmianobasac eweva. aris aWaris sazogadoebrivi radiosa da televiziis Jurnalisti, sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis specialisti baTumis delfinariumSi, arsebuli gasarTobi parkis „cicinaTelas“ piar-menejeri SekveTilSi.
giorgis Cvens qalaqSi sakmaod kargad icnoben. aq daibada da gaizarda. adreuli asakidan dainteresda mxatvrobiT da amis niWic aRmoaCnda. xatva 3-4 wlis asakSi daiwyo, paralelurad cekvavda ansamblSi da amasac siamovnebiT akeTebda. ambobs, rom yvelaze metad uyvars es periodi, radgan rac moswonda da surda, imas akeTebda. fiqrobs, rom genetikurma faqtormac iTamaSa roli, – mama, ramazi, marTalia, profesiiT inJineri iyo, magram kargad xatavda, babuas biZaSvili karlo kukulaZe damsaxurebuli mxatvari iyo. . . xatvisadmi siyvarulma aarCevina profesia, ferweris fakultetze swavlobda. oleg trofimovi aswavlida grafikas, Jani kakabaZe – qandakebas, besik kalandaZe, romelic beso beselias moswavle iyo – ferweras. gaumarTla, rom aseT adamianebTan hqonda urTierToba. sul siaxlis ZiebaSi iyo. paralelurad „wamovida“ poezia, Tumca ar Tvlis, rom misi gatacebaa, miuxedavad imisa, rom sakmao raodenobis leqsi aqvs dawerili. poeziis araerTi saRamoc gamarTa, romelzec sakuTar leqsebs Tavad kiTxulobda (aqve vityviT, rom giorgi maT araCveulebrivi xmis tembriT, SesaniSnavad kiTxulobs).
swavlobda baTumis № 2 sajaro skolaSi. mere, roca janmrTelobis problemam iCina Tavi, ramdenime xniT moskovSi gadavidnen, sabolood, baTumis 26-e skola daamTavra (axlandeli #14).
– arasasiamovno da SesaZloa, arakoreqtulia es SekiTxva, magram. . . . mainteresebs ra moxda?
– samwuxarod, esaa autoimunuri daavadeba, romelic ar ikurneba da misi gamomwvevi mizezebi cnobili ar aris.
– da rodis daiwyo misi gamovlena?
– 9-10 wlidan raRac simptomebi gaCnda, gamoxatulad ki 15-16 wlisas Semetyo da 18 wlamde ufro gaaqtiurda. gardatexis asakSi misi gamovlena ufro mZlavria.
– ra Tqma unda, es arasasiamovno faqtia, magram mixaria, rom Seni adgili ipove.
– sxva mocemulobaSi ar vici, ra da rogor iqneboda, magram. . . ukmarisobis SegrZneba namdvilad ar maqvs, me Cemi Tavi vipove. ara mgonia, rom janmrTelobis SemTxvevaSi, Cemi cxovreba sxvagvari iqneboda, SemoqmedebiTi interesi maqvs da vmuSaob. janmrTelobis mxriv ufro meti SesaZlebloba rom mqonoda, albaT, Cems Semoqmedebas saqarTvelos sazRvrebs gareTac gaicnobdnen. ambiciurad JRers, magram vTvli, rom aq Semoqmedeba mkvdaria.
– giorgi, rogor miaRwie imas, rom cnobili gaxdi?
– pirvel rigSi, albaT, meamayeba, rom sadac vSromob, yvelgan yvelafers guliT vakeTeb.
– rogor daiwera pirveli leqsi?
– yovel SeTxvevaSi, es ar iyo „muza“. pirad grZnobebze ar Semiqmnia, saerTod, „muzas“ ar vaRiareb. . . Zalian didxans amis Sesaxeb aravin icoda, vwerdi CemTvis da. . . vxevdi. ase gagrZelda manam, sanam ar gavicani axalgazrda poeti Tina varSaniZe, romelic mere, samwuxarod, davkarge. wamikiTxa leqsebi, maSin patara viyavi, is – ufrosi. wavxalisdi da mec mominda Cemi leqsis wakiTxva. Zalian moewona.
– daaxloebiT ramdeni leqsis avtori xar?
– am bolo dros Cemi leqsebi, ZiriTadad, iwereba postis saxiT, feisbuqis pirad gverdze, „memori“ rom ar arsebobdes, Zalian bevrs davkargavdi. ise, daaxloebiT, 200-mde leqsi iqneba.
– Seni leqsebi Tu gaqvs gamocemuli wignad?
– 2005 wels gamoveci patara krebuli saxelwodebiT „sveli TiTebi“.
– wer leqsebs, xatav, iReb fotoebs. . . Sens SemoqmedebiT muSaobas daemata mxatvar-modelioroba, gaxdi kuturie. . . .
– Tu rames vaxerxeb, Cems SromasTan erTad, es xdeba im adamianebis – baTumelebis, Tanaqalaqelebis keTilganwyobis xarjze, visTanac Sexeba mqonia. CemTvis yovelTvis yvela kari Ria iyo da Tu rame warmateba maqvs, amas gunduri principiT mivaRwie, marto verafers gavakeTebdi. amitom sajarod minda gadavuxado madloba TiToel maTgans, TiToeul adamians. Tanadgomis gareSe Znelia ramis keTeba, radganac aRmovaCine, rom am sociumSi klasikuri xelovnebis dargebi mokvda, gaZlierda ufro sxva mimarTuleba da CemTvis, rogorc SemoqmedisTvis, rac unda sawyeni da damangreveli iyos, dRes ufro wina planze, maRal safexurzea komerciuli nawili. . . ise, tansacmlis modelireba da dizaini Zalian sainteresoa, magram zogjer Semoqmedi, rom iarsebos, iZulebulia wavides msxverplze, raRac unda „gadaalagos“. yvelaze naklebad momwons Cemi cxovrebis es etapi. axla bevrad metad vuZRvni Cems Tavs samsaxurs imis gamo, rom yofiTi cxovrebis elementaruli saWiroebebi davikmayofilo da ara is, rac adre mqonda -bavSvuri, gulwrfeli. guli mwydeba. . da es albaT, Cemi minusia, magram. . . yvela gadarCenisTvis vibrZviT.
– Cemze Zalian imoqmeda msoflio pandemiiT gamowveulma cvlilebebma – aRar Seivseba stadionebi, sakoncerto darbazebi. . . . Senze ra gavlena iqonia am mdgomareobam?
– damangrevelia aseTi cxovreba. rom ara mimdinare samsaxuri, me rom marto SemoqmedebiTi nawiliT mecxovra, albaT, SimSiliT movkvdebodi. bevri ukve Seejaxa am process. pirveli dartyma im adamianebis mxrebze gadadis, romlebic TavianT Tavs mxolod Semoqmedebas uZRvnian. anu Semoqmedi adamiani mudmivad damokidebulia normalur garemoze. roca qveyanaSi ekonomikuri mdgomareoba odnav mainc stabilurdeba, adamians yofiTi cxovrebis garda ukve uCndeba xelovnebis, kulturis moTxovna. axla, am pandemiis dros zustad es dagvemarTa. gadaverTeT gadarCenisTvis brZolaSi da es brZola globaluri aRmoCnda, Rirebulebebi gadafasda. is, risTvisac vibrZodi, bevri ram ufunqcio aRmoCnda, TiTqos CemTvisac, rogorc xelovanisTvis da gare samyarosTvisac.
– am pandemiis dros xatva an wera ar moginda?
– odesRac Cemi dawerili prozauli nawarmoebi „feroni“ gadavakeTe. „feroni“ davtove qveTavad da . . . . ratomRac mominda da davarqvi „pandemia“, magram albaT es pirveli „cxeli dReebis“ Sedegia. ganvaaxle eskizebis koleqcia. ufro davxvewe, raRaca Sevcvale.
– sad SeiZleba am koleqciis naxva?
– aqac keTili adamianebi midganan gverdiT, magram es maRaziebic xom daiketa?
– giorgi, minda gaixseno Seni speqtakli „feroni“ gonios cixeSi, Zalian lamaz garemoSi rom daidga da gulTbili gamoxmaureba hpova.
– roca ki amis saSualeba momecema, aWaris kulturuli memkvidreobis dacvis saagentos mudmivad gadavuxdi uRrmes madlobas, romelic damidga maSin gverdiT. me vwerdi, magram arasodes damidgams speqtakli, ar var reJisori, ar mqonda msaxiobebTan urTierTobis gamocdileba da saministro mendo. maTi mxridanac es erTgvari eqsperimenti da riski iyo, mec vRelavdi. madloba, rom maT dainaxes CemSi raRac potenciali.
aqve aucileblad minda ramdenime gulTbili sityva vTqva
Tamar oragveliZeze. Cemi pirveli ferweruli da fotonamuSevrebis gamofena 2009 wels moewyo, maSin viwyebdi sajaro SemoqmedebiT saqmianobas. iqidan gamomdinare, rom me cotaTi Tamami Semoqmedi var, fotonamuSevrebSi SiSveli sxeuli avsaxe. ver vityvi, rom amas didi sixaruliT Sexvdnen, Tumca Tamar oragveliZem da Temur tunaZem, romlebic maSin aWaris nobelebis teqnologiuri muzeumis menejments xelmZRvanelobdnen, farTod gamiRes kari, miTxres, rom Semoqmedebas ara aqvs CarCo. maT Cems namuSevrebSi ara SiSveli sxeuli, aramed esTetika dainaxes. roca axalgazrda xar, Tamamic xar. SesaZloa, axla Cemi maSindeli namuSevrebis 80 procentic ki ar gamomefina sajarod. maSin es gavbede da amisTvis madloba Cems maSindel gulRia maspinZlebs, radganac swored iqidan daiwyo Cemi SemoqmedebiTi gza. me viyavi maTTvis sruliad ucnobi axalgazrda, romelsac hqonda ambicia sazogadoebisTvis waredgina sakuTari Semoqmedeba. vfiqrob, aqedan gamomdinare dainteresdnen kulturuli memkvidreobis saagentos warmomadgenlebi. vinc me gverdiT damidga da midgas, msurs mTeli cxovreba maT megobrad davrCe da maTTvis rac SemiZlia gavakeTo.
– rogor gamoxatavs giorgi giovani gabrazebas anu ra ar moswons?
– roca vbrazdebi, var impulsuri, feTqebadi, emociuri, Zalian swrafi. albaT, aq guruli genetikac iCens Tavs. Tumca var kritikuli rogorc garemos, ise sakuTari Tavis mimarT. mabrazebs, roca adamiani ar aris punqtualuri. miuxedavad Cemi janmrTelobisa, maqsimalurad vcdilob, arsad davagviano. ar SemiZlia gulgriloba, ar miyvars imedgacrueba. Cemi nabijebis, qmedebis mimarT kritikuli var, Sesabamisad – sazogadoebis mimarTac.
– ras ver patiob adamianebs?
– miWirs janmrTeli adamianis fuqsavatobis atana. . SesaZloa, es Cemi mdgomareobidan gamomdinareobs. ar momwons, roca vxedav adamians, rom mas yvela piroba aqvs saqmis sakeTeblad da dros uqmad kargavs, ambobs, rom daezara. arada, mas aqvs ganviTarebisTvis yvela resursi, da SeuZlia sargebeli moutanos rogorc sakuTar Tavs, ise sazogadoebas. ratom ar unda hqondeT maT jansaRi ambicia, amas ver vxdebi. ZiriTadad, aseTi tipis protestebi maqvs da amis gamo unaxavT wyobidan gamosuli giorgi giovanic.
– TiTqmis yvela gicnobs, rogorc giorgi giovanis, ram ganapiroba aseTi fsevdonimi?
– kukulaZe var, Cemi winaprebi samRvdeloebis warmomadgenlebi iyvnen, diakvani iyo Cemi didi babua. rac Seexeba fsevdonims, germaniaSi cxovrebis raRac periodSi Sevqmeni ferweruli namuSevari, romelic gadavwyvite meCuqebina erTi adamianisTvis. qarTuli gvari, mogexsenebaT, maTTvis rTuli aRsaqmelia. im dros erT-erT klinikaSi viyavi, qveynis periferiul nawilSi. me viyavi erTaderTi qarTveli rogorc qalaqSi, ise klinikaSi da yvela mommarTavda inglisurad, meubnebodnen, gio-vani xaro, ase gavxdi giovani. mamas, winaaRmdegoba ar gauwevia. axla naxevradoficialurad var giovani, sabuTebi ar gadamikeTebia, radgan bevr formalobasTanaa dakavSirebuli. ise ki, yvela sertifikati giovanma miiRo.
– samomavlo gegmebzec unda gviTxra.
– am mimarTulebiT, rogorc arasdros, „dabneuli“ var, radgan Cemi saqme, romelic ukavSirdeba tansacmlis modelirebas da dizains, aucileblad unda gagrZeldes. man sazogadoebis nawilis yuradReba miiqcia. raRac safexurebis dapyrobac mesaxeba. ferweras ki maSin davubrundebi, roca aqtiur cxovrebas CamovSordebi. da es etapic aucileblad dadgeba. rac Seexeba poezias da prozas, am mimarTulebiT pauza ar maqvs. siamovnebiT davTanxmdebi nebismieri poeziis saRamoSi monawileobas. SesaZloa, misi Catarebis iniciatoric Tavad viyo, radgan aSkarad momenatra auditoriasTan Sexvedra. emociis gaziareba SemoqmedisTvis Taviseburi sazrdoa. SesaZloa, msmenelmac gamanebivra da amitomac menatreba es siTboTi gajerebuli saRamoebi. Semoqmeds xom araferi rCeba am siTbos garda. auditoriasTan urTierToba adamianis Semoqmedebis gasamrjeloa.
