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sakuTari azris xmamaRla, Tavisuflad gamoxatvis SiSi arcTu cota adamians axasiaTebs, rac cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi sakmaod bevr bariers uqmnis maT rogorc pirad, ise sazogadoebriv asparezze. xSirad amas vabralebT simorcxves, gaunaTleblobas, gulCaxveulobas da gonebaSezRudulobasac ki. sinamdvileSi, msgavsi qceva sruliad sxva kriteriumebiT ganisazRvreba fsiqologiaSi, romelsac ukve gaaCnia kidec aRmniSvneli termini – spikerfobia. specialistebi cdiloben am fobiiT Sepyrobili adamianebis daxmarebas. aqve isic minda aRvniSno, rom aseTi SiSiT Sepyrobili adamiani ver gaxdeba klasSi saukeTeso moswavle, verc studentobisas miaRwevs sasurvel simaRleebs, samsaxurSi ki, cxadia, gauWirdeba prezentaciebis mowyoba an ufrosebis qebis damsaxureba. dameTanxmeT, specialisti, romelic ver flobs sakuTar metyvelebas, ver SesZlebs iseTi warmatebis miRwevas, rac SesaZloa, siRrmiseuli ganaTlebis gamo ekuTvnis.
am bolos imata bavSvebis ricxvma, romlebic ver axerxeben saTanadod alaparakebas anu ver gamoxataven sakuTar azrs. amas specialistebi miaweren televizorebTan, mobilurebTan, gajetebTan mijaWvulobas an enebis erTmaneTSi arevas. internetSi, multfilmebis yurebiT, patarebma ician calkeuli sityvebi sxvadasxva enaze, Tumca sabolood, ver axerxeben azris Camoyalibebas verc erTze.
gamodis, spikerfobia ukve araTu gaaxalgazrdavda, aramed sakmaoze metad gafarTovda misi gavrcelebis areali. Tu adre ramdenime adamians uWirda Tavisuflad saubari, axla gacilebiT meti iqneba axali Taobis gazrda-CamoyalibebasTan erTad.
TavisTavad, am kuTxiT moamzadeben saTanado raodenobis specialistebsac da akZalaven patarebisTvis internetsa da telegadacemebze wvdomas (ucxoeTSi ukve karga xania miRebulia msgavsi praqtika). rogor davexmaroT am fobiis mqone umcrosebsa Tu ufrosebs, risi SeTavazeba SegviZlia maTTvis dRes, amaze saubrobs „aWarasTan“ interviuSi piarfsiqologi magda kotrikaZe, romelic xmamaRla acxadebs, rom: „spikerfobiis“ treningiT Cven SegviZlia fobia vaqcioT SesaZleblobad“!
– magda, rodis da ratom gadawyviteT piarfsiqologi gamxdariyaviT?
– piarmenejerad ukve 24-e welia vmuSaob, praqtikulad, mTeli cxovreba, rogorc sajaro, aseve kerZo kompaniebSi. intensiurad miwevda spikerebTan muSaoba: gamosvlis, wardgenis, kamerasTan muSaobis nawilSi. Mmgonia, rom mxolod piaruli midgoma ar kmara imisTvis, rom saukeTeso Sedegi miviRoT. is garemoebebi, rac muSaobis procesSi ikveTeba, xSirad bavSvobis, mozardobis an zrdasrulobis tramvasTan aris dakavSirebuli. Aamitom, fsiqologiuri berketi am dros namdvili sayrdenia. am midgomasTan piradi saWiroebidan mivedi da Sedegi maSinve miviRe, ramac momca biZgi, Rrmad Semeswavla fsiqologia da dResac vagrZeleb swavlas. am procesSi mec vviTardebi.
– spikerfsiqologia sruliad axali meTodia, arsebobs Tu ara moTxovna da Tu gaqvT Sedegebi?
– ukve 6 treningi Catarda, dReSi asze meti adamiani registrirdeboda. moTxovna sakmaod maRalia, radgan baRidan, skolidan, mSoblisgan, damsaqmeblisgan, uiRblo kontaqtebisgan da piradi urTierTobebisgan tramvirebuli adamiani bevria Cvens Soris. spikerfobia cdeba sityviT gamosvlis masStabs, me treningSi CarTuli pirebis „misalmebis“ nawilzec ki vmuSaob. xSiria, roca adamianebi icvlian saxelebs, gvarebs ase ikargeba identoba da qreba pirovneba. Cven erTad vcdilobT mis gamovlenas, dabadebas velSi, veli ki metismetad mxardamWeria da harmoniuli.
– cnobili saxeebi Tu geswrebodnen treningebze?
– rogor ara, treningebs eswrebodnen iseTi sapatio adamianebi, rogoricaa nino popiaSvili, giorgi lobJaniZe da yvelasTvis usayvarlesi poeti saSa gvelesiani. damswreebma maTi nawarmoebebi waikiTxes da igrZnes, rom avtorebs mxolod mkiTxvelis emocia ainteresebdaT. es bevrwilad mimReblobas zrdis da aTavisuflebs spikers.
– Tu SeiZleba, cota ufro detalurad aRweroT muSaobis procesi?
– vismenT cnobil gamosvlebs, vmuSaobT xmaze, Jestze, metyvelebaze, sunTqvaze, es kompleqsuri samuSao procesia. iTxoven individualur trenirebasac. imedi maqvs, am saqmeSi warmatebas mivaRwev, ar davnebdebi, radgan mjera, rom metismetad keTil saqmes vemsaxurebi. ucxoelebisgan kargi gamoxmaureba miviReT, rac namdvilad moulodneli iyo. trenings paralelurad Targmnida Tarjimani. gveswrebodnen germaneli, frangi, ingliseli, indoeli monawileebi. maSin `gamovutydiT~ Tavs, rom Cven TiToeuli „oratori“ da es iyo didi bednierebis momenti.
– konkretuli SemTxvevebiT dagvisaxeleT spikerfobiis magaliTebi.
– spikerfobia sikvdilTan gaTanabrebuli SiSia. axasiaTebs Zlieri da aCqarebuli guliscema, ariTmia, iwvevs maRal wnevas, oflianobas, Tavis tkivils, daZabulobas kidurebSi, kuWis aSlilobas, kriWis Sekvras da zog SemTxvevaSi, gulisrevasac ki, saboloo jamSi, fsiqosomatur daavadebebs, romlis diagnozirebac rTulia.
– problemebi arsebobs rogorc ufrosebSi, ise patarebSi, bavSvebTan dakavSirebiT ras urCevT mSoblebs?
-kontaqti, rac SeiZleba meti kontaqti bavSvebTan. mousmineT Svilebs. Cven yovelTvis gvgonia rom kargi gvinda SvilisTvis da es TiTqos bunebrivia, magram Tu Cven misi nebis winaaRmdeg viqceviT SesaZloa sruliad uwyinarma sayvedurma, waxalisebam da saCuqarmac ki seriozuli problema Seuqmnas mis fsiqikas.
– ra Rirs Tqvens treningze daswreba?
– am etapze _ 50 lari. yoveli damswredan 15 lari gadaericxeba SSm bavSvebs stomatologiuri momsaxurebisTvis. bunebrivia, am saqmianobas Tanamdevi xarjebic aqvs, Tumca qarTuli ganaTlebis centri mxars miWers da imeds ar vkargavT, rom gamoCndebian adamianebi, romlebic am mniSvnelovan saqmeSi marto ar dagvtoveben.
– ra aris spikerfobia da ras warmoadgens piarfsiqologiis meTodologia?
– spikerofobia gamoxatvis SiSia, romelic adamians nebismier asakSi SeiZleba gamouvlindes da Rrma siberemde gahyves. Tumca, Tu aqvs survili, piarfsiqologiis meTodis wyalobiT, SeuZlia swrafad da efeqturad daZlios SiSi.
– rogorc vici, piarfsiqologia Tavad SeimuSaveT?
– diax, es meTodologia me mekuTvnis da Cemi saavtoro treningebis meSveobiT geZlevaT saSualeba, srulad gaTavisufldeT am mtanjveli fobiisgan, romelic warmatebaSi xels giSliT, gaferxebT. es erTgvari gamowvevaa _ Tqva rac gsurs, rasac ganicdi, Tu Tavi Seikavo da gaCumde. akrZaluli survilebi aavadebs adamians. xSirad gvikvirs, ratom gavxdiT avad, Segveqmna janmrTelobis problema, an gvawuxebs qronikuli umadoba, Tavis tkivili, sevda, romelic landiviT Tan dagvdevs. am problemis mizezi xSirad gamoxatvis SezRudvaa. Tu ginda rom Tamamad gamoxatavde da waradgende Tavs, es programa SenTvisaa. spikerfobia SeiZleba nebismier sivrceSi Segeqmnas, maSin, rodesac esalmebi, gamodixar sapasuxismgeblo sityviT, waradgen Temas, waradgen sakuTar Tavs, maSinac ki, roca wyvet kontaqts. Tumca yovelTvis aris Sansi, fobia aqcio SesaZleblobad da gadadga nabiji, waiwio win rogorc karierulad aseve pirad cxovrebaSi. samsaxuris rutina zogjer gvakargvinebs SegrZnebebs, vwyvetT kontaqts sakuTar egosTan da brmad mivyvebiT movlenebs, scenars, romelic romelime asakSi saCuqrad miviReT, saCuqrad, romelic ar gviTxovia. garemo Sobs CvenSi adamians, sociumi ayalibebs gansxvavebul `me~-s, romelic adapturia, morgebulia garemoze. imisaTvis, rom ar viyoT konfliqtSi garemosTan, zogjer yvela saSualebas viyenebT: vqrebiT garemoSi, vaqrobT garemos, vdumdebiT, viketebiT da ganaxlebis survilebs vklavT CvenSi. Cvenze mokuTvnebul garemoSi Tavi rom aRmovaCinoT, ubralod gvWirdeba danaxva SegrZnebis doneze.
– ra miRwevebi gaqvT am mimarTulebiT da ra Sedegs aRwevT treningis procesSi?
– Cven SegviZlia sakuTari fobia vaqcioT SesaZleblobad. mTavari sakiTxis identificirebaa. es aris Sansi Sekavebuli da daTrgunuli energia, xelidan gaSvebuli SesaZleblobebi warmatebad gardavqmnaT.
– ZiriTadad, ra asakSi viTardeba spikerfobia?
– adamianSi SeiZleba spikerfobia ganviTardes wardgenis dawyebamde, procesSi an Semdgom. SeiZleba gaCndes maSin, roca is sruliad pataraa an zrdasrul asakSi. Cven unda vicodeT, rom auditoriaSi dagvxvdeba sxvadasxva tipis damswre vizuali, audiali an kinestetiki da Cven maTTvis unda viyoT saintereso. Ppirveli, rac adamianma unda gaakeTos, unda miiRos sakuTari Tavi, ecados icxovros spikerfobiasTan erTad da daumegobrdes mas. Cven treningze vecnobiT sxvadasxva teqnikas. treningi aris srulad mxardamWeri adamianisTvis, is cocxali procesia da iZleva gamoxatvis saSualebis sxvadasxva formas. daintereseba sakmaod maRalia da mogvmarTavs sxvadasxva asakis adamiani.
– rogor xedavT meTodologiis ganviTarebas?
– 1 ivliss daigegma Sexvedra qarTuli ganaTlebis centrTan erTad SSm bavSvebis dasaxmareblad. Cven gvaqvs maTTan kontaqti da viciT, rom esaWiroebaT stomatologiuri momsaxurebis dafinanseba. cxadia, arsebobs sxva saWiroebebic, romelsac am etapze ver gavwvdebiT, magram ganvagrZobT maTze zrunvas yvela moqalaqesTan da organizaciasTan erTad, romelsac amis survili gauCndeba.
– ratom unda dainteresdes kerZo kompania TqvenTan TanamSromlobiT? ras sTavazobs Tqveni treningi kompaniebs?
– Cven gvaqvs Sorsmimavali gegmebi. darwmunebuli var, rom meTodologia sazRvrebs male datovebs da did interess gamoiwvevs. piari da fsiqologia erTad, es aris didi SesaZlebloba. Sexvedrebi naxevrad Terapiulia, Sesabamisad, am procesSi gaziarebuli sareklamo saxe, video, nebismieri mesiji arasdros daaviwydeba adamians. dafinansebis sanacvlod, damfinansebels vTavazobT damatebiT maTi produqciis imden momxmarebels, ramdenic trenings daeswreba. am kvlevaze aqtiurad vmuSaob, rom es faqti cifrebSi gamovxato da sul male gavacnob farTo wreebs. aseve, Cven maT vaZlevT SesaZleblobas SemogvierTdnen keTil saqmeSi da erTad davexmaroT, visac namdvilad sWirdeba TiToeuli CvenTaganis gverdSi dgoma da daxmareba. Tavad piarisa da fsiqologiis es miqsi imdenad agdebs gancdaSi adamians, rom waruSlel STabeWdilebas tovebs, aris sruliad utravmo da pozitiviT savse.
– samomavlod ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– Cven gavalT ucxoeTSi masiurad. . . mzad var, yvelas davexmaro, visac mivwvdebi, vinc survils gamoTqvams, rom aRmoaCinos sakuTari Tavi ojaxSi, baRSi, skolaSi da sxeulSi.
