ნანუკა ჭკუასელი: ,,ღმერთზე, ადამიანებსა და მათ სიყვარულზე დგას მთელი ჩემი შემოქმედება”
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nanuka Wkuaseli 21 wlisaa. am asakSi man ukve moaswro sami poeturi krebulis gamocema. pirveli `poeziis saRamo~ jer kidev skolaSi swavlis dros, 16 wlis asakSi gamarTa. gogona fsevdonimiT gvinina ilias saxelmwifo universitetis qarTuli filologiis fakultetis studentia. rogorc TviTon gviTxra, ,,arasdros miTqvams, rom poeti var da ara imitom, rom sakuTar Tavs raime maRali rangis statuss vaniWeb. sityva poetic ki ver aRwers poezias ise, rogoric igia sinamdvileSia. jer, Seswavlis procesSi var. unda gavigo, ras niSnavs iyo poeti, mere albaT, vityvi“.
– davibade samtrediis raion sofel tolebSi da adamianis ganviTarebisTvis fundamenturi sawyisi, swored aq miviRe. amJamad vcxovrob TbilisSi. miyvars poezia, adamianebTan urTierToba da jansaRi dialogebi. mTeli bavSvoba ufrosi Taobis wreSi gavatare da dRemde udides siamovnebas maniWebs maTTan komunikacia. saerTod, miyvars yvela da yvelaferi, visganac SeiZleba Tundac mciredi ram iswavlo.
– xar adamiani, romelsac poezia adreul asakSi ,,daemarTa“. ra simptomebi aqvs mas, rogor axsniT. . .
– poezia – Tavidan virusia, cotaTi ucnauri, magram keTili Tvisebebis mqone. erTxel Tu Segeyara, Semdeg ukve daavadebad iqceva, Tumca isaa, rac gkvebavs. warmogidgeniaT daavadeba, romelic gkurnavT? – swored es mgonia poezia.
– premiebi, konkursebi, saRamoebi. . . warmatebul nabijebze ras gvetyviT?
– maSinebs konkursebi, amitomaa, rom sul ramdenime maTganis monawile viyavi. maT Sorisaa, arasamTavrobo organizacia ,,mzis Svilebis~ mier gamocxadebuli konkursi, romelic daunis sindromiT daavadebul bavSvTa Tematikas moicavda. erT-erTi gamarjvebuli mec gavxdi. aseve iyo Tbilisis mTavari biblioTekis mier gamocxadebuli konkursi, sadac Cemi leqsi 12 saukeTesoSi dasaxelda. bolos gaxldaT guram rCeuliSvilisadmi miZRvnili literaturuli konkursi ,,zamTari modis~, romelSic 1-li adgili aviRe. rac Seexeba poeziis saRamoebs, am periodis ganmavlobaSi mxolod ori poeziis saRamo movawyveT. principSi, es Semoqmedis cxovrebis umTavresi TariRia.
– 21 wlis asakSi sami poeturi krebulis gamocema advili ar aris. . .
– Cvens qveyanaSi wignis gamocema martivi procesi araa, Tumca vityvi, rom Zalian gamimarTla. Cems ukan bevri iseTi adamiani dgas, romelsac uSurvelad surs Cemi warmateba. pirveli krebuli 14 wlis asakSi gamoveci. Zalian mixaria, rom es Cemi cxovrebis mniSvnelovani movlenaa, Zalian bavSvuri gamoZaxili, emocia, romelic ase davasaTaure – „minda merqvas poezia“. mas Semdeg Zalian gavizarde. . . danarCeni ori poeturi krebulis „momeci wuTi“ da „gvininas euli“ gamocema im gansakuTrebuli adamianebis damsaxurebaa, visac Sevxvdi garkveul etapze da, vfiqrob, es iyo saCuqari, romelic miviRe. Cemi samive wigni absoluturad gulwrfeli gzavnilia mkiTxvelisadmi da Tu erTi adamiani mainc aRmoaCens sakuTar suls Cems leqsebSi, CavTvli, rom raRac Rirebuli davwere.
– ra asakSi dawereT pirveli leqsi da raze iyo is?
– pirveli leqsi 13 wlisam davwere, Tumca ufro adrec iyo msgavsi. Tematika imdenad mZimea, miWirs am leqsis xelaxla wakiTxva an gaxseneba. zogadad, leqsi konkretuli periodis, emociisa da mdgomareobis sulieri gamoZaxilia.
amitomac iyo igi ase mZime.
– Tavisufal dros kidev riT xarT dakavebuli?
– Tavisufal dros SemiZlia is vakeTo, rac yvelaze metad miyvars. es aris Cemi cxovrebis saukeTeso momenti. arasdros var CarCoebSi Casmuli, araferi maqvs dagegmili, gawerili. am dros SemiZlia vxato, vwero, nebismieri xelsaqmiT gaverTo, vikiTxo. bevri ramaa iseTi, rac miyvars da siamovnebas maniWebs, Tumca arcerTi xelovnebis sazRvrebs ar scildeba. es erTaderTia, rac komfortis SegrZnebas maniWebs.
– ras niSnavs Tqveni fsevdonimi _ „gvinina“?
– fsevdonimi gvirilebis siyvaruls ukavSirdeba. Cemi damokidebulebis gamosaxatavad gvininebad movixseniebdi. droTa ganmavlobaSi, saxeli Zalian Semiyvarda da msiamovnebs, rodesac ase mommarTaven. ase Caanacvla fsevdonimma Cemi namdvili saxeli. am yvavils erTxel sakuTari Tavi mivamsgavse da ase avxseni: SemiZlia yvela furceli gavce da mainc is viyo, vinc var.…
– wera rom daiwyeT, rogori reaqcia hqondaT axloblebs, megobrebs. . .
– roca wer, karg damokidebulebasTan erTad, bevr arajansaR reaqciasac iReb. principSi, ara mxolod am dros. xSirad ar esmiT, ratom SeiZleba werde, aRiqvamen garTobad an sxva arasasurvel saqmianobad. Tumca, mixaria, rom am kategoriis adamianebs iSviaTad veCexebi, irgvliv iseTebi Semovikribe, visac esmis poezia. mxardamWeri ufro meti myavs, amis Tqma Tamamad SemiZlia.
– me var poeti, maSasadame var. . .
– sakuTari Tavis-ufali.
– siaxle ra aris Tqvens SemoqmedebaSi?
– am etapze vmuSaob axal prozaul nawarmoebze, Tumca ar vCqarob. sakuTar Tavs vcdi, ramdenad SemiZlia prozisTvis saWiro unarebi gamovavlino. miuxedavad imisa, rom zustad vici, romel JanrSi miyvars wera, mainc mimaCnia, rom SesaZlebeli da aucilebelic kia, yovelives gamocda.
– vin iyo Tqveni gzamkvlevi literaturaSi, aseve, romeli avtorebis poeziam iqonia gavlena?
– oTar WilaZis, granelis, galaktionis Semoqmedeba miyvars gansakuTrebiT. Zalian bevr rames gaswavlis, aseve, Tanamedrove qarTveli poetebi, romlebic araCveulebrivad weren. sxvisi Semoqmedebis wakiTxva da gaanalizeba umniSvnelovanesi faqtoria SemoqmedisTvis. yoveli axali wignis wakiTxva aviTarebs adamianis azrovnebasa da amdidrebs mis leqsikur marags.
– sakuTari Tavis daxasiaTeba rom gTxovon sakuTari leqsiT, romeli iqneboda is?
– upirobod, es leqsia:
da me yvelafers ganvicdi mZafrad,
wvimebs, qariSxlebs, Sens uxmo lodins,
vzivar da eqos siCume mzafravs,
arc vinme Cans da aravin modis.
raRaciT unda vimSvido guli
da fanjaraze anarekls vqargav,
kedlebze bzarebs gauCndaT wyluli,
me ki rac vnaxe, imasac vkargav.
aRarc SiSi da tkivilis nacvlad
rkinis sawolze perangebs vkecav
da warmovidgen Tovlian naZvnars,
ra iqneboda, Tovli rom mecvas?
vumzer totebze gadmomskdar nayofs
da TanagrZnobiT matulobs nisli,
adamianSi RmerTs veRar vatyob
da mkerdze xeliT imedebs viSli.
vangrev da mainc ganvicdi mZafrad,
lodebze Zlier dumilsac virCen
da araferi rom ar damzafravs
wuxilic metad Tavsac rom iCens,
roca udabnos vuSeneb wvimas,
cremlebs da raRac xmauriT midis,
TiTqos wamomcda me amas winaT,
rom bavSvi var da aRar var didi.
aris siSore, viTarca TeTri,
sufTad rZisferi, spetaki kala,
TiTqos ar Cans da me mainc vetrfi
da kanis SigniT mkvdar fskerze vmalav.
ra unda iyos axla da merec,
an ra azri aqvs Sewyvetil sunTqvas,
albaT, im sityvebs me Sevifereb,
SenTvis, Cem garda, rom arvis uTqvams.
da mec gavqrebi, viTarca Sveba,
romelic sevdis sanacvlod wava,
ar dagaviwydes, rom asec xdeba
da kvali Tavad poulobs savals.
me ki yvelafers ganvicdi mainc
da rasac ver vgrZnob, SemZulda TiTqos.
– saTqmeli, romelic fonad gasdevs Tqvens Semoqmedebas.
– religia Cemi poeziis narativia. RmerTze, adamianebsa da maT siyvarulze dgas Cemi mTeli Semoqmedeba. esaa uzomod gulwrfeli amoZaxili, romelic mkiTxvels agrZnobinebs, rom es misi nawilicaa, rom es manac gamoiara da ganicada.
– teqsti, romelic arasdros gbezrdebaT. . . rCeva, romelsac sakuTar Tavs miscemdiT. . .
– arasdros mbezrdeba nodar dumbaZis Semoqmedebis wakiTxva. gansakuTrebulia CemTvis es fraza: ,,adamiani taZris kedelze moxatuli freska ar aris, rom erT ganzomilebaSi umziro, an moSalo. . .… mas irgvliv unda Semouaro da im mxridan umziro, saidanac lamazia~. vfiqrob, amis gaazreba SevZeli. samyaroc sxvanairia, rodesac mas iseTs iReb, rogoricaa. rac Seexeba rCevas, sakuTar Tavs aucileblad vurCev, rom yvela wvrilmani gamoiyenos da Seqmnas rame iseTi, rac afiqrebinebs, rom Rirda adamianad mosvla.