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gazeTis stumaria 26 wlis baTumeli axalgazrda, `saqarTvelos bankis~ korporaciuli sabanko momsaxurebis departamentis aWaris gundis ufrosi mixeil nakaSiZe.
– gaecaniT Cvens mkiTxvels. . .
– pirvel rigSi, didi madloba Cemdami gamoCenili interesisTvis. davibade da gavizarde baTumSi. ramdenime skola gamovicvale da sabolood davamTavre gimnazia `21-e saukune~, Tumca 2011 wels gavxdi momaval liderTa gacvliTi programis finalisti (FLE
da me-12 klasSi roca gadavedi, mTeli akademiuri weli gavatare amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi, kerZod, koloradosa da dasavleT virjiniaSi. samSobloSi dabrunebulma Cavabare saatestato da erovnuli gamocdebi, paralelurad, varSavis erT-erT universitetSi gavagzavne aplikacia. orive qveynis umaRles saswavlebelSi Caviricxe. sabolood evropuli ganaTlebis miReba varCie, amasTan, ucxo qveyanaSi damoukidebeli cxovreba did gamowvevad mesaxeboda. varSavaSi mesame kursidan TiTqmis 2 weli vimuSave erT-erT umsxviles bankSi – 
-i, Semdgom davbrundi saqarTveloSi. ukve kargad mqonda gaTviTcnobierebuli, rom finansuri da sainvesticio kuTxiT msurda ganviTareba. gadavwyvite, saqarTveloSic mimeRo samuSao gamocdileba am sferoSi da Semdeg swavla gamegrZelebina bakalavriatis Semdgom safexurze, sazRvargareT. Camosvlidan daaxloebiT 1 welSi SevuerTdi `saqarTvelos bankis~ gunds umcros bankirad. . .
– rogorc gviTxariT, amerikaSi gacvliTi programiT imyofebodiT. aTasobiT konkurents Soris aWaridan saukeTeso xuTeulSi moxvdiT, rac didi warmatebaa. iq miRebulma codnam xom ar ganapiroba Tqveni momavali profesiis arCeva?
– iq miRebuli gamocdileba CemTvis ufro mogvianebiT gaxda mniSvnelovani. dResac vaanalizeb iq gatarebul erTwlian periods da Cems yoveldRiurobaze morgebas, saukeTeso magaliTebis gameorebas, daSvebuli Secdomebis Tavidan aridebas vcdilob. minda visargeblo SemTxveviT da ufrosklaselebs movuwodo, monawileoba miiRon gacvliT programaSi, romelic yovel wels tardeba. pirveli turi iwyeba Semodgomaze. Tu am programis stipendiati gaxdebi, faqtobrivad, yvela xarji dagefareba da, rac yvelaze mTavaria, `fleqsis~ warmatebiT damTavrebis SemTxvevaSi, gaxdebiT amerikis saxelmwifo departamentis e. w. saerTaSoriso gacvliTi programebis kursdamTavrebuli, miiRebT zRva gamocdilebas, SeiZenT uamrav megobars da, ubralod, dauviwyar wels gaatarebT qveyanaSi, romelic msoflio ekonomikis da inovaciis lokomotivia.
– umaRlesi ganaTleba varSavaSi miiReT, maleve ipoveT bankSi samsaxuri, magram isev Tqvens qalaqs daubrundiT. ratom?
– varSavis finansTa da biznesis akademiaSi 3 weli viswavle da miviRe bakalavris xarisxi. bolo kursze daviwye -Si muSaoba, rasac swavlaSi xeli ar SeuSlia. weliwad-naxevarSi baTumSi davbrundi, radgan mimaCnia, Cvens qalaqs aqvs uzarmazari potenciali, gaxdes ufro datvirTuli ekonomikurad Tu logistikurad, gadaiqces saerTaSoriso RonisZiebebis habad da iyos 12-ive Tve aqtiuri, turistul potencialze ufro saintereso da ganviTarebad perspeqtivad mimaCnia swored is, rac zemoT aRvniSne. baTumis msoflio rukaze didi asoebiT warmoCena realobaa. am yvelaferSi mindoda Cemi Zalian patara da albaT, umniSvnelo wvlili Semetana, aseve, TanatolebisTvis, axalgazrdebisTvis magaliTi mimeca – Cvens gasakeTebels mxolod Cven Tu gavakeTebT, rom karieris dawyeba baTumSi CemTvis iyo principulad mniSvnelovani. rac Seexeba poloneTs, sadac Cemi cxovrebis erT-erTi yvelaze saintereso monakveTi gavatare, am qveyanasTan dResac sakmaod mWidro kavSiri maqvs.
– rogorc vici, SarSan monawileoba miiReT erT-erT umsxviles saerTaSoriso ekonomikur forumSi, romelic poloneTSi tardeba. albaT, amas gulisxmobdiT mWidro kavSirSi.
– diax, SarSan vimyofebodi krinicaSi miwveviT, sadac erT-erT diskusiaSi – e. w. Ria benqingze da, zogadad, inovaciur finansur teqnologiebze panelistad miviRe monawileoba. masStaburi forumia da, sxvaTa Soris, Zalian sainteresoc.
– axla xarT `saqarTvelos bankis~ korporaciuli sabanko momsaxurebis departamentis erT-erTi warmatebuli gundis xelmZRvaneli. rogor SeuerTdiT am did gunds?
– 2016 wels gavicani `saqarTvelos bankis~ korporaciuli sabanko momsaxurebis departamentis erT-erTi menejeri. me veZebdi samsaxurs, banks undoda regionSi warmomadgenlobis gaZliereba. SevTanxmdiT, rom korporaciul gunds SevuerTdebodi baTumSi umcros bankirad. cota xanSi Cavibare baTumis gundi da warmatebebsac mivaRwieT. amisTvis gundis madlobeli var.
– mixeil, mamasTan erTad, baTumSi anesTeziologTa yvelaze didi Sekrebis organizatori xarT. . .
– Zalian sasiamovnoa, rom am proeqtis Sesaxeb Jurnalistebsac gsmeniaT. am ideis asruleba mamas Zalian didi xnis ganmavlobaSi surda. 2015 wlis bolos daviwyeT ukve seriozuli fiqri da, amasTan, saqmis keTebac. me varSavidan vexmarebodi. Tavidan SevqmeniT saiti. samedicino da samecniero nawili Caibares eqimebma, mamam da anesTeziologTa asociaciis xelmZRvanelma giorgi grigoliam, finansuri da teqnikuri nawili – me. Zalian karg da Sromismoyvare gundTan erTad SevZeliT saerTaSoriso konferenciis Catareba da 20 qveynidan stumrebis mowveva. Tavidan 250 delegati Seikriba baTumSi, rac pirveli cdisTvis cudi Sedegi ar iyo. yovel Semdeg konferenciaze 500-mde da meti stumari gvyavda. sxvaTa Soris, am proeqtiT msurda ara marto mamas davxmarebodi, aramed axalgazrda eqimebisTvis da medicinis dargis studentebisTvis Seqmniliyo platforma, sadac isini gaecnobodnen uaxles miRwevebs TavianT sferoebSi. dRes am proeqtma permanentuli xasiaTi miiRo da mTeli saqarTvelos samedicino sazogadoeba icnobs rogorc erT-erT yvelaze warmatebul kongress, romelic oTxivejer baTumSi Catarda. am etapze proeqtSi Cemi roli ufro gare konsultantobiT Semoifargleba.
– vici, rom eqimebis garemocvaSi gaizardeT. Tqvens karierul winsvlaSi ojaxma ra roli Seasrula?
– Cemma Zmam, SoTam, wels daamTavra umaRlesi samedicino saswavlebeli da germaniaSi umcros anesTeziologad muSaobs. 24 wlis umcrosi eqimi germaniaSic ki Zalian ukvirT. deda, ciuri, baTumis infeqciuri saavadmyofos direqtoria. dedac anesTeziologi da infeqcionistia profesiiT, mama – anesTeziologi. igi dRes saqarTvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomaris moadgilea. 2016 wels airCies xelvaCauris maJoritarad da mas Semdeg politikaSia. Zalian bevrs muSaoben da sakmaod iSviaTad vxedavT erTmaneTs – Cemi Zma sazRvargareTaa, mama da deda – umetesad, TbilisSi, me – metwilad baTumSi. yvela saqmeSi ojaxi Cemi yvelaze didi gulSematkivari da megobaria, iseve, rogorc me – ojaxis. erTmaneTs vaZlierebT.
– rogor fiqrobT, saqarTveloSi rom migeRoT ganaTleba, am warmatebas miaRwevdiT?
– akademiuri codnis mxriv, SesaZloa, ufro metic meswavla saqarTvelos wamyvan universitetebSi. imasac getyviT, rom ekonomika da finansebi saqarTveloSi Camosvlis Semdeg gacilebiT ukeT viswavle – bankSic da bankamdec, vinaidan 2017 wlidan gadavwyvite 
-is (sertificirebuli finansuri analitikosi) gamocdis Cabareba da sertifikatis aReba. am saganSi msoflios vercerT wamyvan universitetSi ver miiReb imden codnas, rasac iswavliT -is samive gamocdis Cabarebis Semdeg. bolo safexuri damrCa – mesame. roca sxva qveyanaSi gadavwyvite swavlis gagrZeleba, Cemi umTavresi mizani iyo axal da ucnob garemoSi damoukideblad cxovreba da evropuli ganaTlebis miReba.
– ras urCevdiT im axalgazrdebs, vinc axla apirebs momavali profesiis arCevas?
– pirvel rigSi, moswavleebs vurCev, maqsimalurad mosinjon Zalebi yvelaferSi, rac maT ainteresebT. me-10-11-klasels jer kidev ar aqvs sabolood Camoyalibebuli arCevani, ar icis, ra unda akeTos cxovrebaSi, amitom ar unda avaCqaroT. SeiZleba, jer erTi profesia airCios da Semdeg sxvisken gauwios gulma. xandaxan es ufro mokle gzaa warmatebisken, radgan imis keTebiT, rac siamovnebas ar ganiWebs, Zalian male daiRlebi. momaval abiturientebs vurCev, formulebis da Teoriebis dazepirebis nacvlad kritikuli da skeptikuri azrovneba ganaviTaron. mTavaria, icode, rogor, rodis da ra iswavlo. internetis epoqaSi, Cemi azriT, warmatebis qvakuTxedi swored es aris.
– riT xarT gatacebuli?
– Zalian bevri raRaciT. imdenad bevriT, rom CamoTvla gamiWirdeba. gitaraze vukrav, CemTvis, saxlSi, sakuTar melodiebsac vawyob, magram sayvareli simRerebis garCeva ufro miyvars sxvadasxva variaciiT. fotografiac momwons. fexburTis yurebac miyvars da TamaSic. baTumis bulvarTan cxovrebis fufuneba gqondes adamians da ar darbode yovel diliT an saRamos, warmoudgenelia. bevri raRaciT verTobi. sxvadasxva saintereso adgilis aRmoCena miyvars. xalxTan maT enaze saubaric, amitom vswavlob ucxo enebs, roca dro maqvs. yvelaze metad mainc saintereso adamianebTan urTierToba miyvars. survilic ki mqonda, rom Tavisufal dros saintereso da warmatebul adamianebTan interviuebi Camewera. Zalian momwons Tqveni profesia. mgonia, rom ganaTlebis da codnis alternatiul wyaros qmniT, rac Zalian mniSvnelovania.
– baTumi rom Zalian giyvarT, es Tqvens gadawyvetilebaSic Cans. . .
– baTumi, pirvel rigSi, aris adamianebi, visTan erTadac gavizarde da 20 weli vicxovre. sadac unda viyo, baTumSi dabruneba dakavSirebulia sixarulTan. es sul ase iyo da ara mgonia, odesme Seicvalos.
– gegmebze ras gvetyviT, xom ar fiqrobT Zalebis sxva sferoSi mosinjvas?
– am etapze – ara. jerjerobiT am sferoSi bevri maqvs saswavli da dasamtkicebeli. rac danamdvilebiT vici, swavlis gagrZeleba minda da aucileblad – sazRvargareT. samoqalaqo cxovrebaSic ufro aqtiurad minda CaverTo, Tumca, vinaidan konkretuli gegma dRes ar gamaCnia, amaze met sicxades Cems gegmebSi ver Sevitan.
