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qveyanaSi winasaarCevno maraToni starts iRebs. mmarTvelma gundma ukve daasaxela maJoritarobis kandidatebi, opozicia ki, rogorc mosalodneli iyo, erTian kandidatebze ver Tanxmdeba. Seicvala saarCevno sistemac, Tumca xelisuflebis oponentebi kvlavac apelireben 8 martis xelSekrulebaze, risi mizezic giorgi ruruas Sewyalebaze uari gaxda. rogor ganviTardeba movlenebi uaxloes periodSi? saSinao politikis aqtualur sakiTxebze interviu politolog aslan lorTqifaniZes vTxoveT.
– batono aslan, qveynis prezidentma giorgi rurua ar Seiwyala, rac opoziciisTvis 8 martis xelSekrulebis Seusruleblobaa.
– bevjer gadavikiTxe 8 martis xelSekruleba da iq ruruas Sesaxeb araferi weria. opoziciam moaxerxa rogorc qveynis SigniT, aseve mis farglebs gareT sazogadoebrivi azris Seqmna, TiTqos 8 martis xelSekruleba iTvaliswinebda ruruas gaTavisuflebas. nebismier `tyuils mokle fexebi aqvs~. germaniis elCma saqarTveloSi, romelic xelisuflebasa da opozicias Soris 8 martis SeTanxmebis erT-erTi fasilitatori iyo, daadastura, rom ruruas Sesaxeb am SeTanxmebaze saubaric ki ar yofila. nebismieri piris Sewyaleba prezidentis diskreciuli uflebaa da is am gadawyvetilebas iRebs damoukideblad.
– ra Sefasebebi mohyva saerTaSoriso doneze salome zurabiSvilis am gadawyvetilebas?
– amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis elCma saqarTveloSi keli degnanma calsaxad ganacxada, rom ruruas Sewyaleba saqarTvelos prezidentis gadasawyvetia. evroparlamentarebisa da amerikis kongresmenebis nawili, saqarTvelos opoziciaze dayrdnobiT, iZlevian rekomandacias, rom prezidentma is Seiwyalos. Tumca salome zurabiSvilma gadawyvita, braldebul ruruas mimarT ar gamoiyenos Sewyalebis ufleba. saqarTvelo damoukidebeli saxelmwifoa da ama Tu im piris Sewyaleba an patimrobaSi datoveba misi suverenuli uflebaa. sasamarTlom mas 4 wliT Tavisuflebis aRkveTa Seufarda iaraRis ukanono SeZena-Senaxva-tarebisTvis.
– prezidentis gadawyvetilebas biZina ivaniSvils ukavSirebs opoziciis nawili. . .
– yvelafris Tqma SesaZlebelia, mTavaria, arsebobdes Sesabamisi mtkicebulebebi. amgvari dasabuTeba ar arsebobs. salome zurabiSvili damoukidebeli pirovnebaa da gadawyvetilebebis miRebaze zegavlenas veravin moaxdens, maT Soris, verc biZina ivaniSvili.
– `qarTulma ocnebam~, SeiZleba iTqvas, winasaarCevno kampania gaxsnilad gamoacxada. dasaxelebulia maJoritari deputatobis kandidatebi. rogoria maTi begraundi?
– nebismieri partiis mier dasaxelebul maJoritarobis kandidatebze SeiZleba sazogadoebaSi iyos araerTgvarovani reaqcia. yvela adamians aqvs Sefasebis individualuri kriteriumebi, simpaTia-antipaTiebi. mmarTveli partiis mier dasaxelebul kandidatebTan dakavSirebiTac arsebobs gansxvavebuli Sexedulebebi. es savsebiT bunebrivia.
– aWaridanac wardgenilia sami kandidati, maTze ras ityviT? moaxerxeben amomrCevlisgan mxardaWeris miRebas?
– dasaxelebul samive kandidats aqvs sxvadasxva sferoSi muSaobis didi gamocdileba, razec maTi asakic metyvelebs. isini daaxloebiT imden xmas miiReben, ramdensac politikuri partia `qarTuli ocneba – demokratiuli saqarTvelo~ anu maJoritarebis warmateba arCevnebSi mibmulia, organulad dakavSirebulia mmarTveli partiis amomrCevelTan.
– opoziciuri partiebi, miuxedavad bolo periodSi maTi erTianobisa, mainc damoukideblad apireben brZolas. ra Sansebi aqvT maT?
– opozicia pirobiTad SeiZleba davyoT or nawilad: yofili saxelisuflebo partiebi da sxva danarCeni. `nacionaluri moZraoba~ da misi ganayofi partiebi xelisuflebaSi yofnis dros kbilebiT icavdnen saarCevno sistemis maJoritarul komponents 77/73 proporciiT, opoziciaSi gadasvlis Semdeg ki `xmalamoRebuli~ ebrZodnen maT mier miRebul saarCevno sistemas. iTxovdnen maJoritaruli komponentis srulad gauqmebas, xolo axla 30 maJoritarul olqs erTmaneTSi veRar iyofen da lamis `daxocon~ erTmaneTi amis gamo. am procesidanac naTlad Cans, rom maTi mizania mxolod Tanamdebobebi, mxolod Zalaufleba da ara – demokratiuli revanSis ganxorcieleba. yofili saxelisuflebo partiebidan bunebrivi, daaxloebiT 1%-iani barieris gadalaxva mxolod `nacionalur moZraobas~ da `evropul saqarTvelos~ SeuZliaT. SeiZleba es barieri giorgi vaSaZemac dasZlios. isini yvela maJoritarul olqSi damarcxdebian, rig olqebSi – pirvelive turSi, xolo olqebis nawilSi – me-2 turSi. `nacionaluri moZraoba~ SeinarCunebs me-2 pozicias da aqvs SesaZlebloba, saparlamento opoziciis statusiT gaagrZelos saqmianoba. mas eqneba arCevnebis Semdeg revoluciis mcdeloba, Tumca arasakmarisi mxardaWeris gamo sisruleSi kvlav ver moiyvans. bunebrivi barieris gadalaxvas SeZleben sxva partiebic. me-10 mowvevis parlamenti sakmaod pluralisturi iqneba.
– giorgi vaSaZe sakmaod ambiciur gancxadebebs akeTebs. gaJRerda, rom is `qarTuli ocnebis~ TamaSs TamaSobs.
– giorgi vaSaZe ganaTlebuli da niWieri axalgazrdaa, Tumca mas mZime tvirTad awevs avtoritarul xelisuflebaSi yofnis politikuri pasuxismgebloba. amomrCevlebis umravlesoba giorgi vaSaZes aigivebs `nacionalur moZraobasTan~. amitom mis mimarT dadebiTad ganwyobili moqalaqeebis umravlesoba xmas `nacionalur moZraobas~ miscems, ris gamoc, giorgi vaSaZis partias gauWirdeba bunebrivi barieris daZleva. ar maqvs aranairi mtkicebuleba misi da `qarTuli ocnebis~ kavSirebis Sesaxeb. mxolod is mocemuloba gvaqvs, rom mixeil saakaSvili da giorgi vaSaZe aRmaSeneblis statussac ki veRar iyofen.
– axali saarCevno sistemiT, vis ra Sansi aqvs sakanonmdeblo organoSi moxvedris?
– yvela gamokiTxviT, mmarTveli partia liderobs da politikuri partia `qarTuli ocneba – demokratiuli saqarTvelo~ am arCevnebSic pirvel adgils daikavebs, moigebs maJoritaruli olqebis umravleobas. maJoritaruli olqebis did nawilSi iqneba me-2 turebi, maT umravlesobaSi `qarTuli ocnebisa~ da `nacionaluri moZraobis~ maJoritari deputatobis kandidatebi gavlen. amgvar konkurenciaSi mogebuli yovelTvis mmarTveli partia rCeba. `nacionaluri moZraoba~ am arCevnebSic `qarTuli ocnebis~ uneblie mokavSiris funqcias Seasrulebs.
– ukrainis moqalaqe da maRalCinosani mixeil saakaSvili kvlavac agrZelebs saqarTvelos misamarTiT politikuri gancxadebebis keTebas. aris Tu ara es ucxo qveynis Sida saqmeebSi Careva?
– mixeil saakaSvili araadekvaturi politikosia. ramdenime Tvis win gvimtkicebda, rom maRal Tanamdebobaze dainiSna, axla ki sakuTar amomrCevlebs eubneba, rom mis mier dakavebuli pozicia umniSvneloa. gasul wels ambobda, rom is ukraineli politikosia da qarTuli politikisTvis arc dro aqvs da arc interesi, wels ki kievidan qarTuli opoziciis wina xazze yofna surs. saakaSvili ucxo qveynis moqalaqea. mas kanoniT ufleba ar aqvs, CaerTos saqarTvelos winasaarCevno kampaniaSi. ufro metic, is, garkveulwilad, warmoadgens ukrainis xelisuflebas da misi gancxadebebi ukrainis xelisuflebis saqarTvelos Sida saqmeebSi Carevas warmoadgens, miuxedavad imisa, rom ukrainis xelisufleba mas emijneba. saakaSvils adre Tu gvian mouwevs arCevanis gakeTeba ukrainis sakonsultacio organoSi muSaobasa da qarTul politikaSi monawileobas Soris. es ori saqmianoba erTmaneTTan SeuTavsebelia da problemebs uqmnis saqarTvelo-ukrainis megobrul urTierTobebs.
– dabolos, batono aslan, ra molodini gaqvT, rogori winasaarCevno kampania iqneba qveyanaSi?
– raime siaxle winasaarCevno procesSi ar iqneba. 2012 wlis Semdeg Cvens amomrCevlebs aqvT SesaZlebloba, Tavisuflad gamoiyenon xmis ufleba da mxari dauWiron sasurvel partiasa da maJoritar kandidats. winasaarCevo kampania, tradiciulad, iqneba emociuri da dominanti kvlav 2 partia iqneba. visurveb, rom amomrCevlebma arCevani gaakeTon winasaarCevno programebze da ar moeqcnen populizmis gavlenis qveS. tradiciulad, arCevnebis Sedegebs opozicia gaaprotestebs aqciebiT da ar cnobs miRebul Sedegebs. arCevnebis Semdgomi periodi ufro daZabuli iqneba, vidre winasaarCevno periodi.