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samwuxarod, ekomigraciis procesi ukve karga xania mimdinareobs saqarTveloSi, rasac mosdevs beneficiarTa ukmayofileba, gansaxlebis lodini, saxlis sayidlad miRebuli Tanxis odenobis mkveTri Semcireba valutis kursis vardnasTan dakavSirebiT, saarsebo wyaroebis deficiti da sxva problemebi.
Tu ras akeTebs am kuTxiT saxelmwifo, riT exmareba usaxlkarod darCenil adamianebs, amaze saubrobs `aWarasTan~ interviuSi ssip `ekomigrantTa da saarsebo wyaroebiT uzrunvelyofis saagentos~ ekomigrantTa sammarTvelos ufrosi dimitri gafrindaSvili.
– ramdeni ekomigranti aRiricxeba dResdReobiT saqarTveloSi da ra SemTxvevaSi registrirdeba piri ekomigrantad?
– dReisaTvis saagentos erTian eleqtronul bazaSi fiqsirdeba 6 410 ekomigranti. pirs es statusis mieniWeba, Tuki dagvidasturebs, rom swored stiqiuri ubedurebebis anu geologiuri procesebis Sedegadaa dazaralebuli. amaSi moiazreba mewyeri, Rvarcofebi, kldezvavi, qvaTacvena, adidebuli mdinareebiT napiris Carecxva. Tuki sacxovrisi sxvagvaradaa dazianebuli, maSin iq mcxovrebT, ekomigrantTa ricxvs ver mivakuTvnebT.
– romeli raionidan aris yveelaze meti ekomigranti saqarTveloSi?
– yvelaze meti ekomigranti Cvens bazaSi imereTidanaa, Semdegi aris aWara, svaneTi, raWa-leCxumi.
– imereTi yvelaze mSvidobiani kuTxe megona. iq amdeni ekomigranti rogoraa?
– imereTi didia da mWidrod dasaxlebuli. iq, maRalmTianeTSi, stiqiuri ubedurebebis bevri SemTxveva dafiqsirda _ gasuli saukunis 80-90-ian wlebSi momxdari miwisZvris gamo imewyreba is adgilebi. faqtobrivad, mTeli zemo imereTi damewyrilia, rasac TavisTavad mohyveba dazaralebulTa gancxadebebi da maTi registracia saTanado komisiebis gavlis Semdeg. igive viTarebaa guriis maRalmTian soflebSi. magaliTad, naxevari acana damewyrilia, Sromasa da TxinvalSic mZime mdgomareobaa. bevri sofelia guriaSi, sadac aRar ecxovrebaT da sanacvlo miwis nakveTebs eZeben mosaxleebi.
– ra daxmarebebi eZleva am xalxs da ra pirobiT?
– Cveni gansaxlebis programis garda, aWaris janmrTelobisa da socialuri dacvis saministroc axorcielebs analogiur programas, romelic gulisxmobs damewyrili ojaxisTvis alternatiuli saxlis Sesasyidad fulad daxmarebas. isinic 25 aTasi laris farglebSi Tavazoben ekomigrantebs saxlis povnas da mis yidvas. paralelurad, ufinanseben droebiTi sacxovrebeli saxlis qiras an sastumroSi ganTavsebas.
– ekomigrants nebismieri saxlis yidva SeuZlia?
– ara, SerCeul saxlis misamarTs da mis monacemebs vagzavniT samxaraulis eqspertizaze, raTa dadgindes rogorc misi realuri sabazro Rirebuleba, ise, sax-lis da miwis nakveTis mdgradoba, raTa isev usaxlkarod ar darCnen es adamianebi da saxelmwifos ar dasWirdes maTTvis Tanxis meored gadaxda. dameTanxmebiT, rom amxela problemebis da mwiri biujetis fonze, valdebulni varT, detalurad SevamowmoT nebismieris SenaZeni da davrwmundeT, rom iq mSvidobianad SeZlebs cxovrebas sakuTar ojaxTan erTad. mxolod am eqspertizis dadebiTi pasuxis SemTxvevaSi vyidulobT saxls beneficiarisTvis.
– batono dimitri, Tu SeiZleba davakonkretoT _ aWaris jandacvis saministro calke yidulobs sacxovrebels ekomigrantisTvis Tu amatebs Tanxas Tqveni saagentos mier gacemul fuls?
– ara, calke yidulobs, analogiuri programiT. igive beneficiars Cven ukve aRar vexmarebiT.
– kidev ra programa moqmedebs am mimarTulebiT?
– gansaxlebis mimarTulebiT mxolod Cveni da aWaris saministros programebia. garda amisa, gvaqvs dasaqmebis programa, romelic marTlac Zalian saWiroa ekomigrantebisTvis da qmediTi. amasTan dakavSirebiT Cveni saagentos saxelwodebas daemata `saarsebo wyaroebiT uzrunvelyofis~ komponentic, rac TavisTavad gulisxmobs beneficiarTa mier warmodgenili proeqtebis dafinansebas, Tuki amas SesaZleblad miiCnevs komisia.
– ra SemTxvevaSi ufinansebT proeqts beneficiars?
– vexmarebiT instrumentebis SeZeniT, romliTac SesZlebs muSaobas da amiT sakuTari ojaxis rCenas. adamianebs, romlebic aiyarnen istoriuli adgil-mamulebidan, mowydnen naTesavebs, mezoblebs da axloblebs, upriania, axal samosaxlo adgilze mivceT dasaqmebis saSualeba. yvelaze ukeT es gamogviva maSin, Tuki adamians, romelmac yvelaferi dakarga, mivcemT im instrumentebs, romlis meSveobiTac SesZlebs raRac garkveuli Tanxis gamomuSavebas.
– visac ar aqvs arc xeloba da arc profesia?
– imaTTvis gaTvlilia profesiis asaTviseblad swavlis dafinanseba, cxadia, im specialobaze, romelsac moisurvebs. saxelmwifo yvela mxriv uwyobs xels am xalxs, rom moxdes maTi sruli integracia sazogadoebaSi, rogorc Sromis bazarze gasvliT, ise TviTdasaqmebiT.
– TviTdasaqmebas isev xelobis kuTxiT gulisxmobT?
– ara mxolod, soflis meurneobasac. es mimarTuleba dRes yvelaze prioritetulia. kovidsituaciam kargad dagvanaxa, ra didi mniSvneloba aqvs sakuTari produqtis adgilze warmoebas. swored amitom, ekomigrantebs daufinansdebaT sasaTbure meurneobebis mowyoba, miwis dasamuSaveblad gadaecemaT mini-traqtorebi. SesaZlebelia dafinansdes materialur-teqnikuri bazis Seqmnac. magaliTad, Tuki moindoma motoblokis yidva, saxelwifo mxarSi daudgeba.
– ra Tanxebis Cadebas apirebs saxelmwifo ekomigrantebis dasaqmebisTvis gamiznul proeqtebSi?
– sxvadasxva programa sxvadasxva Tanxas iTvaliswinebs. rig proeqtebs 2000 lariT afinanseben, zogs – 3 aTasiT da a.S. sasaTbure meurneobebi da motoblokebi albaT met Tanxas moiTxovs.
– rogor da sad gairkveva, vis ramdens miscemen?
– amisTvis beneficiarma aucileblad unda mogvmarTos ganacxadiT TbilisSi, saagentoSi. iq SevavsebT aplikacias, miniWebuli qulebiT da federaluri SesabamisobiT gadawydeba, ra SemTxvevaSi aqvs an ar aqvs pirs saSualeba, isargeblos dafinansebiT Tu sxva SeRavaTebiT. zepirad amaze saubari ar gamogviva, radgan yvela ojaxs Tavisi unikaluri garemoeba da mdgomareoba gaaCnia. axla vapirebT informaciis maqsimalurad gavrcelebas, radgan iyos yvelasTvis xelmisawvdomi. Cven saitzec devs da isedac vacnobebT ekomigrantebs, risi miReba SeuZliaT da sad, magram axla gansakuTrebul reJimSi mivawodebT informacias yvela municipalitets da mivadevnebT Tval-yurs, rom igi mivides im beneficiarebamde, visac aqvT programiT sargeblobis prioritetebi.
– ramdenad samarTliania proeqtebis sxvadasxva Rirebuleba da erTi da igive statusis beneficiarebisTvis sxvadasxva Tanxis micema. zRvari sadamdea?
– sxvadasxva proeqts sxvadasxva Tanxa sWirdeba. asevea, rodesac afinansebs `awarmoe saqarTveloSi~ da sxva programebi. adamiani Tavad adgens, amuSavebs proeqts. yvelas xom ar SeuZlia sawarmos gaxsna an motoblokis amuSaveba. Tavad beneficiaris pirad Tvisebebzecaa bevri ram damokidebuli.
– procentulad ramden beneficiars aqvs proeqtis dafinansebis Sansi?
– vinc mogvmarTavs, daufinansebeli aravin darCeba. ubralod, SesaZloa droSi gaiwelos, radgan erTbaSad didi TanxiT ver uzrunvelvyofT. Cvenc biujetze da dafinansebaze varT damokidebuli.
– Tu gaqvT monacemebi, ukve ramdenma SeiZina saxli. 25 aTasi lari dRes 8 aTas aSS dolaramdea. adre vinc miiRo es Tanxa, Tundac 5-6 wlis win, mas gacilebiT Zviriani saxlis yidva SeeZlo. kursis vardnas dafinansebis gazrda ar mohyolia?
– ar gauzrdiaT, arada, programa rom daviwyeT 11 aTasi aSS dolari iyo 25 aTasi lari. gazrdian Tu ara Tanxas, amaze verafers getyviT, es ar Semodis Cems kompetenciaSi. amJamad 1847 ojaxi ukve dakmayofilebulia sacxovrisiT swored am programis farglebSi. rac Seexeba aWaras, iq 791 ojaxs SeuZines saxli. aqedan gamomdinare, xalxis CarTuloba da am programiT daintereseba maRalia, gamodis, axerxeben saxlis yidvas.
– Tuki beneficiari gansazRvrul vadaSi ver Caetia sasurveli saxlis SeZenisas, dakargavs Tanxis miRebis Sanss?
– ara, ar kargavs, Tuki vadaSi ver Caetia da warmoadgina amis obieqturi mizezi, kidev aqvs ufleba, mogvmarTos gancxadebiT. vadas ori kviriT gavugrZelebT da Tu am droSic veraferi moaswro, misi dafinanseba momavali wlis biujetSi gadainacvlebs. mokled, aravin arafers kargavs, rac ekuTvnis.
– aWarel ekomigrantebsa da maT problemebze ras gvetyviT, vgulisxmob imas, rom maTTvis micemul saxlebs berZeni mepatroneebi gamouCnda . . .
– es gasuli saukunis problemebi iyo, rodesac qaosurad xdeboda ekomigrantebis gadasaxleba-Casaxleba. maSin kerZo molaparakebebic mimdinareobda. zogi mepatroneebs SeuTanxxmda, rom icxovrebda manam, sanam saxelmwifo Seusyidda. iyvnen iseTebic, romlebic arc ki SeTanxmebian, mezoblebis imedad Sevidnen daketil saxlebSi da Semdeg, rodesac mflobelebi Camovidnen, daiwyo konfliqti. maSin didi areuloba iyo, aravin icoda zusti siebi, ar mowmdeboda, es xalxi namdvilad iyo ekomigranti Tu ubralod, ojaxebs gamoeyvnen da barSi Camosaxleba gadawyvites. dRes yvela sakiTxi daregulirda, yvela problema moagvara zogi saagentom, zogic – municipalitetebis gamgeblebma. axla ukve msgavsi gaugebroba warmoudgenelia, radgan arsebobs eleqtronuli siebi, yvelaferi fiqsirdeba da yvelam viciT, vin, sad, rodis Casaxlda Tu gadasaxlda. yvela ekomigranti mkacrad aRiricxeba da cxeli wertilebi aRar fiqsirdeba am mimarTulebiT.
– ekomigrants, romelic saxlis gareSe darCa, magram jer ver yidulobs axals, radgan ver SearCia an Tanxa ar daericxa, vin uxdis binis qiras, avejis da sxva saojaxo aqsesuarebis SesaZenad Tanxa ar aris gamiznuli?
– am problemas municipaliteti agvarebs sakuTari, am mizniT gamoyofili biujetidan. rac Seexeba avejs da sxva msgavs daxmarebas, arc amazea Tanxebi gamoyofili.
– miiRes Tu ara ekomigraciis Sesaxeb kanoni da ramdenad mowesrigebulia am mxriv sakanonmdeblo baza?
– kanoni ar miuRiaT, Cven vxelmZRvanelobT normatiuli aqtiT – 779. Tuki vinmem rame gaaprotesta an cvlileba moiTxova, yvelafers viTvaliswinebT da Segvaqvs 779-Si.
– sagangebo mdgomareobis periodSi muSaoba SeCerebuli gqondaT?
– mxolod monitorings ver vawarmoebdiT, radgan ver gavdiodiT adgilebze. sxva mxriv, vinc Cvenamde aRwevda, yvelas vexmarebodiT da vakvalianebdiT. samsaxuri ar daxurula, cxadia, gaTvaliswinebuli regulaciebis dacviT. vcdilobdiT gvemuSava Cveul reJimSi, radgan Cveni beneficiarebi gansakuTrebulad mowyvlad jgufebs ganekuTvnebian.
– yvelaze did problemad ra migaCniaT ekomigrantebisTvis?
– saxlis sayideli Tanxis miRebis molodini. cxadia, yvela miiRebs am Tanxas, magram mainc Znelia lodini, Tanac, rodesac ar gaqvs sakuTari Weri. sxva mxriv, isini socialur paketebs Rebuloben da ver vityvi, rom rame gamorCeuli problema aqvT. gansakuTrebulad SeWirvebulebs, sxva mxrivac exmarebian.
– yvelaze warmatebulad romel ganxorcielebul proeqts daasaxelebdiT?
– 2014-2015 wlebSi Sveicariis ganviTarebis da TanamSromlobis saagentosTan erTad ganvaxorcieleT marTlac warmatebuli programa, romlis farglebSic 53 ojaxis gansaxleba moxda. maT saxlebi, msxvilfexa rqosani pirutyvi, saTburebi da moto-blokebi SevuZineT. Sveicariis mTavrobam konkretuli Tanxa gamohyo konkretuli ojaxebisTvis da mis farglebSi yvelaferi SeiZines. mas Semdeg, msgavsi ram ar gakeTebula. axla mimdinareobs analogiuri proeqtis realizacia da imedi gvaqvs, isic warmatebuli iqneba.
Cveni saxelmwifo swrafi tempiT agvarebs ekomigrantebis problemebs da sul male, gacilebiT naklebi SeWirvebuli ojaxi gveyoleba saqarTveloSi, vidre amJamadaa.