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– sofel-sofel iaro da Seagrovo Zveli aWaruli simRerebi, es sirTulesTan erTad, didi pasuxismgeblobacaa sakuTari kuTxis da winaprebis winaSe _ ambobs lotbari, ansambl `elesas~ xelmZRvaneli irakli sirabiZe.
mTavari survili jer ver aisrula _ asamde aWaruli simReris Cawera ver SeZlo, romlis Semdegac CaTvlis, rom Tavisi kuTxisTvis saWiro da mniSvnelovani saqme gaakeTa. miaCnia, rom TiToeuli adamianis valia, saqmiTa da sityviT emsaxuros qveyanas, gaufrTxildes winaprebis im monapovars, rasac isinic Tvalis CiniviT ufrTxildebodnen. musika bavSvobidan movida masSi, ambobs rom sul RiRinebda da icoda, erT dResac ufro seriozuli saxe miecemoda am yvelafers. Tvlis, rom simReris niWi genetikurad gadaeca, radgan rogorc mamis, aseve dedis mxares yvela mReroda.
– modiT, `elesaTi~ daviwyoT, ra gza gamoiara ansamblma Tqveni xelmZRvanelobiT?
– qedis kulturis centris ufrosis moadgiled daniSvnis Semdeg, qalbatonma Sorena karanaZem mTxova, rom tariel mamalaZes, romelmac ansambli `elesa~ Camoayaliba da misi xelmZRvaneli iyo, gverdSi davdgomodi. im periodSi xalxuri simReris Semsruleblobis Sesaxeb Zalian bevr literaturas gavecani, radgan ar mindoda saqmes zedapirulad mivdgomodi. daviwye Zveli aWaruli simRerebis moZieba, nel-nela damigrovda saintereso Canawerebi, romlebic 1930-iani wlebidan moyolebuli saxelovanma kompozitorebma aWaraSi mogzaurobis dros Caweres. daviwye xmebis moZiebac, 2012 wlamde imdeni movaxerxeT, rom pirveli audioalbomi gamoveciT, pirvels maleve mohyva meore. ansamblis axalgazrda biWebisTvis, cotaTi rTuli iyo Zveli simRerebisken xmebis mibruneba, magram maleve auRes alRo. araerTi adamiani amomidga gverdSi, rogorc adgilobrivebi, aseve Tbilisis konservatoriis warmomadgenlebi, risTvisac didad vemadlierebi maT. didi survili maqvs, asamde aWaruli simRera Cavwero, amis Semdeg CavTvli, rom Cemi kuTxisTvis raRac maqvs gakeTebuli. minda ansamblis biWebs madloba gadavuxado, marTalia, lotbars meZaxian, magram rom ara maTi da kidev uamravi adamianis Tanadgoma, araferi gamovidoda. dRes bednieri var, rom `elesa~ aris ansambli, romelsac SeuZlia nebismier sxva regionidan Camosul adamians Tu turists garkveuli warmodgena Seuqmnas, rogori iyo wlebis win adgilobrivi folklori, rogor mRerodnen Cveni winaprebi da raoden saintereso repertuari hqondaT maT. am yvelafris aRdgenis, Senaxvisa da gadarCenis saSualeba rom mogveca, amisTvis yvelas madlieri var. sul male gamova ansambl `elesas~ mesame da saswavlo diski, sadac dainteresebul pirebs SeeZlebaT cal-calke xmebidan iswavlon aWaruli simRera. albomSi Sesulia ori ansamblis _ `elesasa~ da `moyvaris~ Canawerebi, romlebic germanelebma Caiweres specialurad amisTvis Camotanili aparaturiT.
– baTumze ras ityviT?
– is saocari qalaqia, erTi didi da Tbili saxli. Zalian miyvars mis quCebSi xetiali. baTumi saCuqari qalaqia, Tan iseTi, rogor ganwyobazec xar, im ganwyobaze rom mogergeba. xandaxan marto ginda ixetialo da dRec ise gava, SeiZleba arcerTi nacnobi ar Segxvdes. xandaxan ginda, mTeli dRe bohemurad gaataro da quCas ver gaivli, yovel xuT wuTSi nacnobi rom ar gadageyaros, TavisTan ar migipatiJos, ar mogeferos da mogesiyvarulos. vfiqrob, baTumi Semoqmedi adamianisaTvis Zalian saintereso qalaqia, muzebis samyaroa, romelic givsebs sulSi arsebul sicarieles da gibiZgebs Sens saqmianobaSi, SemoqmedebaSi ufro aqtiuri gaxde.
– werT simRerebs. ra emociebs aRZravs es procesi TqvenSi?
– es saocari SegrZnebebis erTobliobaa. raRac Zalian Tu ar getkina, an gagixarda, raRac mZafrad Tu ar igrZeni Sinaganad, ase mgonia, ver gamova Seni simRera an leqsi bunebrivi. SemoqmedebaSi tyuili sazizRrobaa, is, rac gulidan modis da namdvilia, aucileblad miva meore gulTan, ase mwams da mjera. roca savse xar saTqmeliT, ufali gaZlevs saSualebas, daicalo.
– gitaris gareSe TiTqmis veravis warmoudgenixarT . . .
– erTi simRera davwere pandemiis dros, sadac aseTi fraza maqvs: `mxolod gitara darCeba SenTan~. iseTi instrumentia, romelTanac Zalian didi saerTo maqvs. gitara gaZlevs saSualebas, Sinagani ganwyoba gadmosce, erT birTvad aqcio, gamoZerwo da mkafio saxe misce Sens saTqmels. erTxel poetma vaxtang Rlontma cnobil musikosze Tqva, `gitara, rogorc misi satarebeli jvario~. marTlac asea, gulSi Casakravi da mosafrTxilebeli instrumentia CemTvis.
– gvinda Tqvens axal wamowyebaze gviTxraT ramdenime sityva . . .
– erT-erTi proeqtis meSveobiT, mamapapiseul sofel kvaStaSi saojaxo tipis sastumro avaSene. amiT minda bevr adamians mivce biZgi da vuTxra, rom saocar energetikas igrZnoben, xelaxla daibadebian, Tu sofels miaSureben da mamapapiseul miwa-wyals ar miatoveben, aseve, minda vaCveno adamianebs, rogori araCveulebrivi da stumarTmoyvare xalxi cxovrobs Cems sofelSi, rogori bunebaa, rogori naturaluri produqtebi gvaqvs da zogadad, ra turistuli potencialis mqone kuTxea.
– Cemi simdidre . . .
– Cemi ojaxia, Cemi TerTmeti wlis Svili zuka da meuRle Tamari. zukas uyvars musika, Tumca amJamad ufro sportiT aris gatacebuli da Tavisuflebas vaniWebT arCevanSi. minda Cems meuRles, Tamar Zvelaias, romelic araCveulebrivi pianistia, aseve pedagogiur moRvaweobas eweva, gverdSi dgomisTvis madloba gadavuxado. wlebis ganmavlobaSi Tamuna rom ara, me folklorSi is warmatebebi ar meqneboda, rac dRes maqvs. ojaxi, megobrebi, baTumi, musika _ es is Zalaa, romelic ar maZlevs modunebis saSualebas. erTs davamateb _ iyaviT gulwrfelebi, rogorc SemoqmedebaSi, aseve adamianebTan urTierTobaSi. rasac gulwrfelad Seqmni, is aucileblad miva adamianebis gulebTan da dafasdeba.
