ნადიმ ვარშანიძე: მე საკრებულოში ყველას თავმჯდომარე ვარ – პოზიციისაც და ოპოზიციისაც, მთავარია, ყველამ იაზროვნოს სახელმწიფოებრივად
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`Tu aqvT faqti, ratom ar midian prokuraturaSi?~
xelvaCauris municipalitetis sakrebulos Tavmjdomare araerTxel gamxdara opoziciis kritikis samizne, es gamoCnda Cvens interviuSic, romelic wina kviras `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevr miSa bolqvaZesTan CavwereT. amjerad, gTavazobT dialogs nadim varSaniZesTan, romelic opoziciis braldebebs upasuxebs, aseve, gavigebT, rogoria misi prognozi wlevandel arCevnebTan dakavSirebiT.
_ batono nadim, daviwyoT sakrebulos bolo sxdomiT. ram ganapiroba biujetSi cvlilebebi, anu misi Semcireba?
_ mogexsenebaT, pandemiidan gamomdinare, ara marto saqarTveloSi, an mxolod Cvens municipalitetSi, aramed mTels msoflioSia realoba Secvlili. Tumca, yvela vTanxmdebiT, rom mTavari adamianebis janmrTeloba da sicocxlea, Semdeg _ yvelaferi danarCeni. xelvaCauris municipalitetis biujetis Semcireba, ra Tqma unda, pirdapir kavSirSia im problemebTan, romlebic axali koronavirusis gavrcelebiTaa gamowveuli. miuxedavad imisa, rom aRniSnuliT opozicia mainc manipulirebs, getyviT, rom is infrastruqturuli proeqtebi, rac dawyebuli gvqonda, kvlav grZeldeba. mxolod isini SeCerda, romlebic uaxloes periodSi unda dagvewyo da isic imitom, rom droSi veRar veteviT. Tumca, zustad vici, es proeqtebi rom gagvegrZelebina, opozicia amazec sawinaaRmdego Sexedulebas daafiqsirebda, rac Zalian cudia. amgvari qceva Semdeg uaryofiTad aisaxeba sazogadoebaze, qveyanaze, radgan es ar aris saxelmwifoebrivi midgoma. Zalian mwydeba maTze guli. me sakrebuloSi yvelas Tavmjdomare var, CemTvis ar aqvs mniSvneloba pozicia iqneba Tu opozicia, mTavaria, yvelam saxelmwifoebrivad iazrovnos, radgan Cvens qveyanas zustad es sWirdeba.
_ opozicia mudmivad saubrobs nepotizmsa da korufciaze, rasac auditis daskvniTac amyarebs. . .
_ auditis daskvnaSi korufciasa da nepotizmze ar aris saubari. isini modian imisTvis, rom Seamowmon Cveni saqmianoba, mogvcen SeniSvnebi da rCevebi, romlebic samomavlod erTgvari gzamkvlevi iqneba. rac Seexeba korufcias, getyviT, rom msgavsi faqtebi arasdros gamoparvia arc saxelmwifos uSiSroebis da arc antikorufciul samsaxurebs. Cveni mmarTvelobis periodSi yofila SemTxvevebi, roca Cveni TanamSromlebi am mizeziT dasjilan, radgan aravis vindobT am sakiTxSi. simarTle giTxraT, am SemTxvevaSi, opoziciis ver gamigia. Tu aqvT faqti, ratom ar midian prokuraturaSi da ar SeaqvT sarCeli? dadon faqtebi da vinc damnaSavea, agos pasuxi, mec amis momxre var, magram samwuxarod, isini sicruesa da mis tiraJirebas ver iSlian.
_ avtomobilebis Tema sakrebulos sxdomaze cxare kamaTis mizezic gaxda, realurad rasTan gvqonda saqme?
_ manqanebs rogorc ki SexedavT, mixvdebiT, rom specialurad, samuSaod, iaffasiani manqanebi SeviZineT. Cvens municipalitetSi aris maRalmTiani zonebi, tyeebi, mosaxleobas sWirdeba daxmareba, xan wyalTan dakavSirebiT, xan produqtiT. amisTvis saWiro iyo iseTi manqana, romelic martivad ivlida msgavs adgilebSi. opozicia saubrobs Cems manqanazec. Turme sakrebulos Tavmjdomares ar aqvs ufleba, hyavdes is, Tumca ver warmoudgeniaT albaT, rom mas me mosaxleobasTan Sesaxvedrad, maTi problemebis mosagvareblad da maT dasaxmareblad viyeneb. SeuZliaT naxon, am 8 wlis ganmavlobaSi ramdeni manqana SeviZineT. maTgan gansxvavebiT, viyideT traqtorebi, SevqmeniT avtoparki, romelic sofelsa da xalxs emsaxureba.
_ sasmeli wylis problemaze saubrobs rogorc mosaxleoba, aseve opozicia. . .
_ 20 milion laramde daixarja wylis problemebis mosagvareblad, 13 milionamde _ Cemi gamgeblobis periodSi. xelisufleba rom CavibareT, arcerT sofelSi wyali ar iyo. ar vambob, rom problema aRaraa da yvelaferi kargadaa, magram 90%-iT mainc mogvarebulia. zafxulis sicxeebSi Sreba wyali. Tu naleqi ar movida, ver Seivseba, amasTan, mosaxleobaSic gvaqvs problema im mxriv, rom roca mavani morwyavs miwas da mere onkans Riad tovebs, mezobeli uwylod rCeba. axla velodebiT semeks, rom daadginos fasi da TiToeul ojaxs davuyenoT mricxveli. vfiqrob, es dagvexmareba imaSic, rom adamianebma ufro yairaTianad daiwyon wylis moxmareba. Cven vxedavT problemas da arsad gavurbivarT mas, magram cudia, roca opozicia mxolod amiT apelirebs da gakeTebuls arsad axsenebs. salibaurSi 1800 ojaxs SevuyvaneT wyali. samwuxarod, darCa ramdenime da amaze daiwyes laparaki. viciT, rom yvelas unda hqondes, magram zogjer mosaxleobis daxmarebac gvWirdeba. am SemTxvevaSic yairaTian moxmarebas vgulisxmob. vcdilobT, yvelgan miviyvanoT wyali, magram Tu ver migvyavs, maSin WaburRilebs vakeTebT, raTa aravin darCes uwylod.
_ rogor gaumklavda xelvaCauri axali koronavirusiT Seqmnil gamowvevebs?
_ daaxloebiT 6 aTas ojaxs mivutaneT produqti, maqsimalurad vcdilobdiT ara marto biujetidan, aramed Cveni saxsrebiTac davxmarebodiT yvelas. iyo SemTxvevebi, roca sxva municipalitetis mcxovreblebic gvikavSirdebodnen da imaTac vexmarebodiT, radgan es is periodi iyo, roca mniSvneloba ar hqonda, vin sad cxovrobda. yvela myavda gafrTxilebuli – samsaxuridan dawyebuli ojaxiT damTavrebuli _ vinc ar unda dagvkavSireboda, yvelas unda davxmarebodiT, aravin dagvetovebina mSieri.
_ opozicia ambobs, pandemiis dros xelisuflebam adamianebi SimSilisTvis gawira da swored isini darCnen saxelmwifos yuradRebis miRma, visac gansakuTrebiT sWirdebodaT daxmarebao.
_ Sedgenili iyo siebi, romlebic Tavad mosaxleobam mogvawoda. adamianebi ukavSirdebodnen an Cvens warmomadgenlebs, an piradad Cven. arcerTi ojaxi ar dagvitovebia yuradRebis miRma. aq saubari ar aris mxolod sasursaTo kalaTaze. maT sWirdebodaT wamlebi. zogs hyavda avadmyofi, romelic misayvani iyo eqimTan. yvelas maqsimalurad davexmareT.
_ ramdeni adamiania daregistrirebuli da ramdenma miiRo 200-300-lariani da erTjeradi daxmarebebi?
_ zustad ver getyviT, Tumca aqtiurad mimdinareobs registracia. zogma ukve miiRo is, zogic elodeba. iqidan gamomdinare, rom sabuTebis Cabareba garkveul procedurebs moiTxovs, es yvelaferi droSia gawerili.
_ ramdenad mzadaa turistuli sezonisTvis municipaliteti?
_ turistuli sezonisTvis Cveni meijareebi gavaTavisufleT gadasaxadebisgan. yvela obieqti aRWurvilia saWiro nivTebiT da yvela icavs rekomendaciebs. mixaria, roca Sevdivar da, wesebis Sesabamisad, mamowmeben. yvela maqsimaluradaa mobilizebuli. sanapiro zols rac Seexeba, municipalitetis daqvemdebarebaSi sarfis monakveTia, sadac ijariT gacema dasrulebulia da aqtiurad mimdinareobs muSaoba.
_ 2020 weli saarCevno welia, ra prognozebis gakeTeba SegiZliaT?
_ me ver vxedav iseT mizezs, iseT problemas, romlis gamoc `qarTul ocnebas~ gauWirdeba am arCevnebSi xalxTan saubari, ar vambob gamarjvebas. . . Cven SegviZlia mosaxleobasTan saubari, rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania. Cveni gundis umetesobas ar gauWirdeba es, maT Soris arc me. Ddiax, problemebi aris, magram xalxi realurad xedavs ra SeuZlia saxelmwifos da ra _ ara, ra unda moTxovos mas da ra _ ara. isini xedaven gansxvavebas verasa da aras Soris, amitom Cvens moqalaqeebs ar sWirdebaT axsna, ratom ver keTdeba es Tu is. realurad, erTi sistemidan gamovdivarT da axal sistemas vqmniT, radgan wina xelisuflebis dros mosaxleoba iluziebsa da SiSSi cxovrobda. Sesabamisad, saWiro gaxda maTi realobaSi dabruneba da fexze dayeneba. opozicia gamodis da Cvens gakeTebuls akritikebs, manaxon `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ xelisuflebis periodSi erTi Senoba mainc, romelic aaSenes Cvens municipalitetSi. bednieri var, rom Cemi aq yofnis dros avaSeneT 9 baRi da 3 socialuri saxli, romelic Zalian saWiro da aucilebeli iyo Cveni mosaxleobisTvis. aqve vityvi, rom wina xelisuflebis programebidan Zalian momwonda soflis mxardaWeris programa, Tumca Cven is erTi-orad gavzardeT.
_ saarCevno kampanias rogor gegmavs Tqveni partia?
_ vfiqrob, dRes qveyanaSi pandemiasTan dakavSirebuli situacia mowesrigebulia. Sesabamisad, arCevnebic Cveulebrivad, daTqmul ricxvSi Catardeba. am dRisken mivdivarT nel-nela, Tumca arc Tanamdeboba da araferi minda, mTavaria Cveni eri iyos janmrTeli, es axla yvelaze mniSvnelovania. gansakuTrebiT axalgazrda Taoba unda gvyavdes jansaRi, kargi ganaTlebiT, romelsac ecodineba samSoblos warsuli, raTa ukeTesi momavali Seqmnas. Semdeg ekonomikasac kidev ufro unda mivxedoT, radgan amis gareSe araferi gamova. mixaria, rom wlebis win gaweuli Sroma soflis meurneobis mimarTulebiT, axla gvaZlevs Sedegs. Cveni qveyana agrarulia, amitom unda movaxerxoT, am kuTxiT mainc ar viyoT sxvaze damokidebuli. vfiqrob, qveyana arCevnebs momzadebuli daxvdeba. amJamad ki yvelaze mniSvnelovania, rom qveyanaSi saxelmwifoebrivi azrovneba da iseTi opozicia Camoyalibdes, romelic ar iqneba qveynis mimarT mtrulad ganwyobili.
aqve, gTavazobT im adamianebis komentarebs, romlebmac saxelmwifosgan miiRes rogorc erTjeradi daxmareba 300 laris odenobiT, aseve sasursaTo kalaTa, romelic pandemiis periodSi ojaxebs daurigdaT.
_ axali koronavirusis gamo karantinis periodSi davrCi umuSevari, radgan mZRoli var da, mogexsenebaT, im dros yvelaferi gaCerda. Sesabamisad, Cvenc SevwyviteT muSaoba. saxelmwifo daxmarebis programis gamocxadebis Semdeg, davregistrirdi da miviRe erTjeradi daxmareba 300 laris odenobiT, – gviTxra xelvaCauris municipalitetis mkvidrma jemal bolqvaZem.
_ var mravalSviliani deda, pandemiis dros ramdenimejer miviRe sasursaTo kalaTa, romelic municipalitetma gadmomca, amasTanave, viRebdi im sursaTsac, romelic sabavSvo baRebSi rigdeboda. iqidan gamomdinare, rom sakmaod bevri problema gvaqvs saxlTan, miwasTan dakavSirebiT, maTi mogvarebis dapirebac miviReT, – aRniSna CvenTan saubarSi xelvaCauris municipalitetSi mcxovrebma, mravalSvilianma dedam ia orjonikiSvilma.

