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Cveni intervius saSualebiT niWier, damwyeb ilustrators, mxatvarsa da pedagogs mariam kalandariSvils gaicnobT, romelmac skolamdeli da saskolo asakis bavSvebisTvis qarTuli ilustrirebuli anbani Seqmna. igi ukeT damaxsovrebis, gaazrebis da Sesabamis asoze dawyebuli sityvebis vizualizaciisTvisaa gaTvaliswinebuli. mariami grafikuli dizainis programis saSualebiT, sakuTar personaJebsac qmnis, misi ilustrirebiT sabavSvo moTxrobebis wignebic ibeWdeba. uyvars portretebis xatvac, Tumca Tvlis, rom es mxolod misi hobia. ZiriTadad, akrilis saRebavebiT da ubralo fanqriT xatavs. profesiiT filologia, amJamad baTumis `mega skolaSi~ dawyebiT klasebs xelovnebas aswavlis.
– mariam, rogori bavSvi iyaviT?
– ver getyviT, rom gamorCeuli bavSvi viyavi da Tavidanve kedlebze vxatavdi, ara . . . Zalian Cveulebrivi, wynari, mSvidi da morcxvi gaxldiT. rogorc yvela `90-ianels~, mec ezoSi TamaSi miyvarda. babuaCemi fizikosia da gamudmebiT raRacas Slida da awyobda. am process didi interesiT vuyurebdi, detalurad vakvirdebodi da Semdeg mec xan telefons, xan dinamiks vSlidi da awyobas vcdilobdi.
– rodis dainteresdiT mxatvrobiT?
– #№2 sajaro skolaSi vswavlobdi, sadac uniWieresma pedagogma da xelovanma lia kaspelaSvilma gaxsna studia, romelSic ferwera, grafika, gobelenze muSaoba da a.S. iswavleboda. dedaCems Zalian moswonda gobelenis xaliCebi da undoda, es saqmianoba Semeswavla, magram gobelenis garda, yvelaferi viswavle (icinis). zogadad, naqsovi xaliCebi ar momwons da arc masze muSaobam damainteresa, ufro iseTi ramis gakeTeba an swavla miyvars, rasac Semdeg gamoviyeneb. roca studiaSi siaruli daviwye, yvelaze metad xatvam gamitaca. maxsovs, Tavdapirvelad, lia maswavlebelma furceli da fanqari momawoda, miTxra, rom damexata is, risi daxatvac yvelaze metad mexerxeboda. mec, ra Tqma unda, yvavili avirCie . . . Semdeg meubneba – cifri miTxario. . . 5-meTqi. Zalian kargi, furcelze 5 yvavili damixateo . . . gamikvirda, risi xatvac ukve vicodi, ratom unda damexata, an ase rogor unda meswavla xatva? Semdeg mivxvdi – furcelze kompoziciurad rogor vanawilebdi 5 yvavils, amis gageba undoda. amiT Cemi monacemebi Seamowma da roca davxate, Zalian moewona. qalbatonma liam Semayvara xatva. misi gansauTrebuli midgoma rom ara, xelovnebis es sfero albaT, ase Zalian ar damainteresebda. studiaSi me-5 klasSi Sevedi da miuxedavad imisa, rom 4-wliani iyo da diplomic aviRe, Cemi surviliT, mainc skolis damTavrebamde davdiodi.
– profesiiT filologi xarT . . .
– Zalian mindoda samxatvroze Camebarebina, magram maSin grafikuli dizainis fakulteti ar arsebobda. kiTxva miyvarda Zalian da amitom humanitarul fakultetze, filologiis ganxriT Cavabare. xatva mxolod da mxolod, hobad darCa. aseve, damTavrebuli maqvs baTumis nikoloz kandelakis saxelobis samxatvro teqnikumi.
– ra aris Tqveni interesis sfero, ra gizidavT yvelaze metad?
– saTavgadasavlo, cxovrebiseuli nawarmoebebis kiTxva miyvars, magram erTi problema maqvs – saTaurebs da mwerlebs iSviaTad vimaxsovreb. ar maviwydeba mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tu nawarmoebma Cemze didi zegavlena moaxdina. aseTi `Sagrenis tyavi~ iyo. zogadad, vcdilob nawarmoebebidan iseTi rameebi davimaxsovro, rac cxovrebaSi gamomadgeba. Zalian momwons cxenebi, maTi fizikuri aRnagoba, kunTebi . . . cxenze jiriTi momwons . . . maxsovs, megobarTan erTad sofelSi marto wavedi, pirvelad maSin gavaWene cxeni, dedaCemi rom mxleboda, ar momcemda amis saSualebas (icinis). warmodgenac ki ar mqonda, rogor unda gameWenebina da, ra Tqma unda, pirveli mcdeloba marcxiT davasrule. cxeni Sesabamisad aRWurvili ar iyo da advilad gadmovvardi, mTeli gverdi gadavityave. miuxedavad amisa, mas Semdeg ramdenjerme mainc vijeqi cxenze da Tu Sansi momecema, momavalSic siamovnebiT gavaWeneb.
– ra saxis naxatebs qmniT da ramdenad xSirad xatavT?
– gagikvirdebaT da, skolis damTavrebis Semdeg, raRac periodi, xatvasTan aranairi Sexeba ar mqonia. studentobis periodSi Canaxatebic ki ar gamikeTebia, droc ar mqonda, ufro swavlaze viyavi orientirebuli. roca universiteti davamTavre, mxolod Semdeg daviwye grafikaSi portretebis xatva. peizaJebis da naturmortebis xatva ar miyvars, SemiZlia viRacis xaTriT davxato, magram Cemi surviliT _ ara. siurealisturi naxatebi momwons, oRond, ara gaugebari. SeiZleba naxati vizualurad mogewonos, magram ver mixvde, risi Tqma surda mxatvars. isec xdeba, rom mxolod avtorma icis, ras ambobs misi namuSevari.
– ar gqoniaT survili, Tqveni namuSevrebis personaluri gamofena rom mogewyoT?
– Zalian bevri naxati maqvs, magram ZiriTadad, yvela – gaCuqebuli. sami namuSevari SemomrCa, romlebic CemTvis davxate da ver gavaCuqeb. mirCevnia, Cemi naxatebi sazogadoebaSi iyos `gafenili~ (icinis). vTvli, rom saqarTveloSi Cemze bevrad niWieri mxatvrebi arian, romlebsac sazogadoeba ar icnobs. roca CavTvli, rom Cemi namuSevrebi Rirebuli da gamorCeulia, gamofenazec vifiqreb. qarTvelebi kritikiT gamorCeuli xalxia, zogjer – gadametebuliTac, amitom gamofenaze rom ifiqro, bolomde unda iyo Tavdajerebuli. vinc Cems naxatebs icnobs da moswons, esec makmayofilebs. am etapze sxva ambicia ar maqvs.
– grafikuli naxatebis Sesaxeb gviTxariT . . .
– ori weli sareklamo kompaniaSi vmuSaobdi da grafikuli dizainis programam gamitaca. Tavdapirvelad biZaCemma mibiZga am saqmianobisken – scade, aucileblad gamogivao . . . Turme rasac aqamde furcelze vxatavdi, SesaZlebeli yofila, kompiuterSi ilustraciis saxiT gadmomeca. verc ki warmovidgendi, rom xelis nacvlad `mausiT~ davxatavdi. es CemTvis sasiamovno aRmoCena iyo. Semdeg programis ukeT Seswavla gadavwyvite, bevri vimuSave da internetis saSualebiT, ilustraciebis, aseve, grafikuli dizainis programebi sakmaod kargad Seviswavle.
– pandemiis dros Tu iyaviT dakavebuli mxatvrobiT?
– sxvaTa Soris, karantinis periodSi srulad aviTvise TiTqmis yvela programa. grafikuli dizainis programebi srulfasovnad Seviswavle da ilustraciebis, aseve, sakuTari personaJebis Seqmnac daviwye, Semdeg maTi amoZraveba mominda. simarTle giTxraT, bevri ar miwvalia, 2-dRiani muSaobis Semdeg, 1-wuTiani multfilmi gavakeTe – `mowyenili Tevzi~. cota boroti multfilmi gamomivida, magram mgoni realobaa (icinis). amJamad ramdenime personaJi Sevqmeni da axla moTxrobis ZiebaSi var, romelic maT Seesabameba. erTi-ori SevarCie da didi survili maqvs, Tu wignad gamoicema, Cemi ilustrirebiT iyos.
– ilustrirebul anbanze ras gvetyviT . . .
– skolamdeli da saskolo asakis bavSvebisTvis qarTuli ilustrirebuli anbani Sevqmeni, romelic ukeT damaxsovrebis, gaazrebis da Sesabamis asoze dawyebuli sityvebis vizualizaciisTvisaa gaTvaliswinebuli. anu, yvela aso, romelzec sityva iwyeba, sityvasTan erTad ixateba. magaliTad: a-ze – atami, b-ze – bali, g-ze – galia. anbani saswavlo programisTvisac gamoiyeneba da socialur qselSic maqvs atvirTuli. rogorc vici, Zalian bevrma maswavlebelma naxa da maTi mowonebac daimsaxura. bavSvebisTvis vizualuradac saxalisoa. imedia, gamoadgebaT.
– amJamad ras saqmianobT?
– ukve sami welia `mega skolaSi~ pirvel, meore da mesame klaselebs xelovnebas vaswavli, paralelurad, koordinatoric var. swored Cveni skolis xelmZRvanelobis xelSewyobiT, Cemi ilustrirebiT daibeWda axalgazrda, damwyebi mwerlis darina abulaZis sabavSvo moTxroba `brinka~, romlis prezentaciac axlo momavalSi igegmeba.
– distanciur swavlebaze ra azris xarT?
– pirvelklaselebisTvis Zalian rTulia kompiuterTan jdoma da miT umetes, distanciurad rames gageba. albaT, bevri dameTanxmeba, Tu vityvi, rom ase mcirewlovani bavSvi ver iswavlis. SeiZleba, zogadi codna miiRos, magram Zireuls – vera. skolas ver Secvlis veranairi kompiuteri.
– ra gansxvavebaa klasSi Catarebul gakveTilsa da onlaingakveTils Soris?
– saklaso oTaxSi pirdapiri Sexeba gaqvs moswavlesTan. roca Secdomas uSvebs, maSinve eubnebi, usworeb. onlainiT amis keTeba Zalian rTulia. roca davalebas moamzadebs, unda gamogigzavnos, Sen unda gausworo da ukan gaugzavno. ase urTierToba Wirs da Zalian did drosac iTxovs.
– samomavlod ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– maswavleblis saserTifikacio gamocdis Cabarebas vapireb. aseve, grafikuli dizainis kuTxiT minda davsaqmde. wignebis ilustrirebac Zalian momwons da albaT, am mimarTulebiT vimuSaveb.
