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Cveni dRevandeli intervius meSveobiT niWier, axalgazrda mxatvar miqael maxaraZes gaicnobT. mas mxatvrobis Taviseburi stili aqvs. misi naxatebi yvelasgan gansxvavebulia. Rrma SinaarsiT da individualizmiT gamoirCeva, rac, bunebrivia, namuSevrebs ufro mimzidvelsa da sainteresos xdis.
miqaels sazogadoeba aqamde „nemezisis“ fsevdonimiT icnobda. rogorc Tavad gviTxra, am fsevdonimiT muSaobis erTi didi etapi mis cxovrebaSi dasrulda. aRsaniSnavia isic, rom miqaelis naxatebs ara saxelwodeba, aramed saTaurebi aqvs, radgan TiToeuli maTgani istorias hyveba.
ra principiT arCevs Tematikas, ra aris inspiraciis wyaro da mxatvrobis garda riTia dainteresebuli, am da sxva Temebze Cveni respondenti Tavad gvesaubreba.– miqael, Tqvenze gviambeT, rodis eziareT pirvelad mxatvrobas?
– davibade qalaq prokopievskSi, ruseTSi, kemerovos olqSi. Semdeg Cemi mSoblebi saqarTveloSi, aWaraSi, kerZod, xulos raionSi dabrundnen. ojaxuri pirobebis gamo, iq davrCiT da skolac iq davamTavre. vswavlobdi xulos tbel abuserisZis saxelobis skolaSi. roca mSoblebma saxviTi xelovnebis mimarT Cemi midrekileba dainaxes, xulos samxatvro galereaSi Semiyvanes. skola 2013 wels davamTavre da amave dros Caviricxe baTumis SoTa rusTavelis universitetSi humanitarul mecnierebaTa fakultetze, filosofiis specialobaze.
– ratom dainteresdiT am sferoTi?
– adreuli bavSvobidan vxatav. daaxloebiT sami wlidan. pirveli gamofena skolaSi, me-6 klasSi momiwyves. Semdeg pauza mqonda, merve klasidan ki Zalian davinteresdi saxviTi xelovnebiT, mxatvrebiT da maTi namuSevrebiT. upirvelesi gavlena moaxdina siurealizmma. klasikuri akademiuri mxatvrobisgan gansxvavebiT, es mimarTuleba CemTvis gacilebiT axlobeli aRmoCnda, radgan namuSevrebis aRqmis procesi Zalian saintereso iyo. veZebdi azrs da Sinaars iseTi mxatvrebis namuSevrebSi, rogorebic arian: salvador dali, rene magriti da hans gigeri. Sedegad gamiCnda Zlieri interesi, Semeswavla formis da simbolos azrobrivi datvirTva. maxsovs, maRal klasebSi, gakveTilebs Soris Sesvenebaze, aseve fizkulturis gakveTilis nacvlad biblioTekaSi vijeqi. simboloebis enciklopedias da sxvadasxva literaturas vkiTxulobdi, ramac sxvadasxva epoqaSi, sxvadasxva kulturasa Tu religiaSi damkvidrebul simbolizmsa da mis gagebasTan damaaxlova. viyavi Tineijeri da es periodi sakmaod rTuli aRmoCnda CemTvis. moxda radikaluri dapirispireba Sinagani samyaros Cveneul gagebasa da realobas Soris, radgan realoba saerTod ar aRmoCnda iseTi, rogorac gviyvebian. gamiCnda iseTi protestis grZnoba, romelic albaT am asakSi yvelafers Tavdayira ayenebs. Tumca, CemTvis saintereso iyo, CavZiebodi im mizezebs, Tu ratom iyo garemo iseTi, rogoric iyo da ra amoZravebdaT adamianebs emoqmedaT ise, rogorc moqmedebdnen. pasuxs religiac ver maZlevda, radgan is ambobs, rogor „unda“ iyos da ara – rogorc aris (aravis religiur grZnobebs ar vayeneb Seuracxyofas. Cemi cxovrebiseuli gamocdilebidan vsaubrob da ar maqvs pretenzia obieqturobaze). davinteresdi fsiqologiiT. maxsovs, internetSi fsiqologiur statiebs da literaturas veZebdi. vkiTxulobdi JurnalebSi fsiqologTan anonimur werilebs da fsiqologis pasuxebs maTze. CemTvis Semoqmedeba iqca ara mxolod interesis sferod, aramed gadarCenis gzad, radgan roca megona, rom yvelaferi cudad iyo, xatva mexmareboda da garkveuli kaTarzisis SegrZnebas maZlevda. Semdeg ki yvelaferi zemoT xsenebuli, filosofia da Cemi SegrZnebebi erTmaneTs Seerwya.– ra koncefciiT gaCnda fsevdonimi „miqael nemezisi“?
– nemezida berZnul miTologiaSi iyo SurisZiebis RvTaeba. is sjida adamianebs, romlebic sazogadoebriv da RmerTebisgan mocemul wesrigs arRvevdnen. Cemi saxeli „miqaeli“ ki, romelic mTavarangelozis pativsacemad damarqves, ivriTidan ase iTargmneba: „romeli viTarca RmerTi“. koncefcia ki aseTia: Tu CemSi aris RvTiuri nawilic da samyaro hgavs taZars, romelSic sikeTis saxeliT sicrue da borotebaa gamefebuli, maSin Cemi SurisZieba iqneba am samyaros mimarT, rom Camovglijo farisevlobis da sicruis niRabi da vamxilo is Cems SemoqmedebaSi. mindoda, adamianebs Cems naxatebSi sakuTari Tavi daenaxaT da amoecnoT. 2020 wlidan vawer Cems saxels – miqaeli, Cem mierve Seqmnili xelmoweriT. vfiqrob, namuSevrebi fsevdonimiT „nemezisi“ erT did etaps asaxavda Cems cxovrebaSi, romelic damTavrda.
– Tqveni naxatebi Rrma SinaarsiT gamoirCeva, ra principiT arCevT Tematikas da ratom?
– SeiZleba iTqvas, Tematikas arc varCev, ubralod, Cemi goneba mieCvia sityvebis da winadadebebis xatovnad warmosaxvas. Sesabamisad, roca saintereso rameze vfiqrob, an saintereso saubarSi vmonawileob, mudmivad var am procesSi. Tu es xateba Sinaarss Seesabameba da vizualuradac momwons, is droTa ganmavlobaSi aucileblad gadava tiloze, Rrma Sinaarsi ki imitom aqvs, rom ar miyvars namuSevarSi konkretulad erTi gzis, ideis, cnebis an movlenis calmxrivad aRwera. namuSevrebs varqmev saTaurebs da ara saxels imitom, rom maTSi dialogia, istoriaa da, warmoidgineT, rom is feriT da formiT aris dawerili. yovelTvis maqvs idea da sakuTari namuSevrebis ideebs droSi ubralod ver vewevi, amitom mudmivad vmuSaob.– ZiriTadad, ra aris Tqveni STagonebis wyaro?
– absoluturad yvela namuSevarSi adamianis an adamianebis istoriaa. Cemi STagonebis wyaro adamiania da yvelaferi masTan dakavSirebuli Tu mis mier Seqmnili. buneba kanonzomieria da misive kanonzomierebas emorCileba, adamiani ki qaosuria da, vfiqrob, kosmosSi calke patara samyaroa TiToeuli Cvengani. adamiani CemTvis STagonebis amouwuravi wyaroa.
– TviTizolaciis dros Tu xatavdiT da ramdenad dagexmaraT es periodi Semoqmedebis ganviTarebaSi?
– TviTizolaciis periodi sakmaod nayofierad gamoviyene da bevri kargi naxati Sevqmeni. swored am dros dasrulda Cems SemoqmedebaSi axali etapis formireba. zogadad, sul vxatavdi, magram TviTizolaciis periodSi mTlianad Cavefali procesSi.
– romelia TqvenTvis yvelaze sayvareli naxati da ratom?
– „orive TeTria“ – SedarebiT axali namuSevaria, manamde ki iyo „arsi“ da „maradiuli absurdis krizisi“. „orive TeTria“ mTlianad asaxavs Cems msoflmxedvelobas. naxati saZinebelSi maqvs da mudmivad maxsenebs, rom araferia adamianis mier Seqmnil samyaroSi calsaxa da erTmniSvnelovnad Sesafasebeli, rom ar unda viazrovno radikalurad. . . rom is simarTle, romelsac WeSmaritebas veZaxiT, yovelTvis gvisxlteba xelidan.– mxatvroba, rogorc Semosavlis wyaro. . .
– uamrav samsaxurSi mimuSavia, dawyebuli fizikuri SromiT, damTavrebuli momsaxurebis sferoTi. arsad viyavi bednieri. 3 wlis win avariaSi movyevi da 6 Tve etlSi vijeqi. sakmaod rTuli periodi iyo Cemi ojaxisTvis da amasobaSi samsaxuric davkarge. davrCi mxolod sakuTar SesaZleblobebTan marto da kiTxvasTan – Tu ra SemeZlo. rogorc yovelTvis, SemoqmedebiTma procesma da xatvam gamomiyvana fsiqologiuradac da ekonomikuradac rTuli situaciidan. ukve 3 welia, mxatvroba iqca Cems erTaderT Semosavlis wyarod. ufro meti SemarTebiT vxatav, radgan udidesi bednierebaa, roca akeTeb imas, rac yvelaze Zalian mogwons. es moswonT sxva adamianebsac. isini mxars giWeren, rac gaZlevs SesaZleblobas, izruno sayvarel adamianebze da gqondes SemoqmedebisTvis meti resursi, Cemi Semosavlis ZiriTadi wyaro ki internetplatformaa.
– mxatvrobis garda, riTi xarT dainteresebuli?
– filosofiis da literaturisadmi interesi Tanmdevi gaxda CemTvis. aseve, mainteresebs da vecnobi Tanamedrove xelovnebis koncefciebs, Teoriebs, saxviTi xelovnebis istorias. amouwuravi masalaa da es ufro maxarebs. mainteresebs animacia, videoTamaSebi da maTi audio Tu vizualuri dizaini. mokled rom aRvwero – mxatvrobis garda, dainteresebuli var informaciis SegrovebiT.
– wlebis win personaluri gamofena gqondaT, kidev Tu apirebT?
– diax. vapirebdi 2020-Sic, magram kovidsituaciis gamo SeuZlebeli gaxda ideis ganxorcieleba. axla axali namuSevrebis gamofena msurs. es imazea damokidebuli, Tu rodis CavTvli, rom namuSevrebi, raodenobrivadac da Sinaarsobrivadac, Seqmnis erTian ganzomilebas sagamofeno sivrceSi.– rogoria Tqveni idealuri samuSao garemo?
– maqsimaluri produqtiulobisTvis aucilebelia, viyo marto. erTaderTi, Cemi meuRlis gverdiT yofna ar miSlis xels. muSaobisas situciis da namuSevris mixedviT, xan sakuTar azrebs vusmen, xan dialogi gvaqvs me da nanuCis (meuRle), an musikaa CarTuli. musikas uZlieresi gavlena aqvs muSaobaze da mas naxatis Tematikis, emociuri datvirTvis mixedviT varCev, rom procesSi mTlianad CaviZiro. am dros SeiZleba Tavadac vRiRinebde siCumeSi, gamovcemde raRac xmebs, vakeTebde moZraobebs.
– is, rac yvelaze metad gsiamovnebT. . .
– yvelaze sasiamovno Cems cxovrebaSi aris ferwera da Cemi meuRle.
– mxatvrobasTan axlos rom ar yofiliyaviT, romel sferos airCevdiT da ratom?
– Tu rames mivuZRvnidi cxovrebas, es aucileblad iqneboda is, rac yvelaze met siamovnebas maniWebs, radgan am principis gareSe arafers vakeTeb, gansakuTrebuli aucileblobis garda. amitom, roca erovnul gamocdebs vabarebdi, mxolod sami specialoba mqonda Cawerili: filosofia, fsiqologia da xelovnebaTmcodneoba. sxva arafris mswavleli viyavi da vicodi, rom drosac da resurssac uazrod gavflangavdi.
– ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– gamofenebi da ufro meti ganviTareba. minda grafikul dizainsa da mxatvrobaSic gadavide. videoTamaSebis Seqmnac minda viswavlo, radgan vfiqrob, es is unikaluri sferoa, sadac SeiZleba mxatvruli stili, Sinaarsobrivi da audiomasala ise Seerwyas erTmaneTs, rom rame Rirebuli da saintereso gamovides. dRes, Cemi azriT, es sfero xelovnebis erT-erTi ganviTarebadi mimarTulebaa. aseve, maqvs sakuTari samxatvro studiis gaxsnis idea.