,,არაერთი გაფრთხილების და დაჯარიმების მიუხედავად, მაინც შედიან ტყეში და უკანონოდ ჭრიან ხეებს”
xatia iaSvili 27 48 93 –
saqarTvelos parlamentma jer kidev SarSan, 22 maiss miiRo axali „tyis kodeqsi“, romelic 99 muxlisgan Sedgeba da tyis resursis marTvis samarTlebriv urTierTobebs aregulirebs.
ras moiazrebs tyis dokumenti, ra saxis cvlilebebs elodebian satyeo meurneobaSi, rogor uvlian aWaris daavadebul tyeebs da awesrigeben ukanono Wrebs – am da sxva mimdinare sakiTxebze interviu vTxoveT aWaris satyeo saagentos ufrosis moadgile jumber abulaZes.
– gazafxuli iwyeba, ra siaxleebs gegmavT satyeo samuSaoebis kuTxiT?
– faqtobrivad, satyeo saagentos ar gvaqvs dayofili weli sezonebis mixedviT, radgan mudmivad vmuSaobT. CvenTan zamTarSic isevea saqme, rogorc zafxulsa Tu Semodgomaze. Tumca unda vaRiaro, rom gazafxulze ufro vaqtiurdebiT, radgan mosaxleobis legaluri Sesvla iwyeba tyeSi axali tyekafebis gamosayofad, romelic manamde tyis marTvis gegmis mixedviT wesrigdeba. aseve, vaTvalierebT, zamTris periodSi ra aris gafuWebuli, romeli gzebia aRsadgeni da a.S. xdeba yvela am monacemis dafiqsireba da sistematizacia, raTa wlis ganmavlobaSi daigegmos saTanado samuSaoebi da ganawildes TanamSromlebSi.
– rodis iwyebT am mimarTulebiT muSaobas?
– mZime teqnikiT muSaoba, praqtikulad, dawyebuli gvaqvs, amis saSualeba gvqonda kargi amindebis gamo. specialistebs ukve gakeTebuli aqvT proeqtireba da Cveni teqnikis meSveobiT aRadgenen Zvel gzebs, gahyavT axali.
– batono jumber, ras warmoadgens tyis dokumenti TqvenTvis, praqtikosi metyevisTvis?
– es dokumenti aris Cveni satyeo meurneobis marTvis saSualo da grZelvadiani politikis, xedvis, strategiis ganmsazRvreli. unda vicodeT, saiTken mivdivarT, ra gagvaCnia, ras unda mivaRwioT, rogor jobia tyis momsaxureba da a.S.
– es yvelaferi CvenTvis, rigiTi moqalaqeebisTvis zogadi frazebia. . .
– maSin konkretulad getyviT. magaliTad, ganisazRvreba tyis kritikuli ubnebi, aqtiuri moxmarebis e.w. cxeli ubnebi da gaiwereba, rogor aRvadginoT es ubnebi, rogor SevuwyoT xeli tyis bunebriv ganaxlebas, rom davrgoT da gavaSenoT tyis xe-mcenareebi, SevqmnaT sarekreacio zonebi, dasvenebis obieqtebi da sxva, raTa Tanamedrove moTxovnebs avuwyoT fexi. amasTan dakavSirebiT umaRles sabWoSi sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebis iniciativiTac SevediT, radgan Cvens satyeo saagentos kanonmdeblobiT ar gaaCnia imis ufleba, rom Seqmnas zemoT xsenebuli dasvenebis obieqtebi. Cven ukve vsazRvravT, rom aucilebelia tyis sammarTvelos gaaCndes sakuTari Semosavali, romliTac SevZlebT isev tyes movuaroT da Tundac, personalis finansur waxalisebas SevuwyoT xeli.
– gamodis, am dokumentis mixedviT da saTanado kanonmdeblobis SeqmniT, tyis komercializaciis ufleba mogecemaT. es xom ar daarRvevs ekologias?
– ara, axlac, kanonmdeblobiT nebismier moqalaqes Tavisuflad SeuZlia tyeSi gadaadgileba, Tumca dResdReobiT ar aris infrastruqtura da normaluri gza. zogan bilikia Caxergili, bunebrivi barierebia Seqmnili anu saxifaToa iq siaruli. kanonSi cvlilebebis SetaniT, Cven SevZlebT meti personali daviqiraoT, adgilobrivi mosaxleoba davasaqmoT, studentebic CavrToT am procesSi. SesaZlebeli iqneba zafxulobiT am xalxis xelSekrulebiT ayvanac da Tavad Seqmnian Semosavlis wyaros. iseTi adgilebi, CanCqerebia Cvens tyeebSi, aWaris mosaxleobis erT procentsac rom ar unaxavs, araTu turistebs. arada, swored esaa Cveni kuTxis simdidre. garwmunebT, yvelaferi gakeTdeba regionis keTildReobisaTvis, tyis SesanarCuneblad, mis mosawesrigeblad da gasaaxleblad. am process komercializacia ki ara, ufro popularizacia SeiZleba vuwodoT, radgan Zalian mizerul gadasaxadze iqneba saubari. aseve, aq moewyoba Tevzis meurneobebi, moSendeba futkari da a.S. vecdebiT, tyeSi Sesulma adamianebma mxolod merqani ar dainaxon.
– batono jumber, sanam zemoT xsenebuli procesebi gaaqtiurdeba, am etapze ra funqciebi akisria Tqvens saagentos?
– Cveni saagentos ZiriTadi funqciaa tyeebis mdgradi marTva, movla-dacva ise, rom xeebis moWra-gamoyenebis dros araTu daziandes, aramed gaumjobesdes tyis mdgomareoba. vgulisxmob daavadebuli, daberebuli, gamxmari, waqceuli da Selaxuli xeebis gamotanas, raTa tye ganaxldes da resursi ukeTesad ganviTardes. mosaxle rodesac iRebs xis moWris nebarTvas da Sedis tyeSi, ratomRac, aucileblad saukeTesos SearCevs mosaWrelad. Cveni funqcia swored isaa, mivuTiToT, romeli moWras, anu socialuri moTxovnilebis dakmayofileba ise moxdes, rom tyesac Seewyos xeli. debulebis mixedviT, Cveni saagentos ZiriTadi funqciebia: tyis fondis sazRvrebis dadgena-dazusteba; am fondis marTva; tyiTsargeblobis regulireba; tyis movla-aRdgenis RonisZiebebis ganxorcieleba da fondis kontroli. warmoidgineT, es ramxela datvirTva da pasuxismgeblobaa, Tuki gaviTvaliswinebT, rom tyeebs aWaris teritoriis 65% ukavia, saagento ki marTavs 150 aTasze met heqtars. arsebobs aseve 190 aTas heqtarze ganlagebuli nakrZalebi, parkebi da daculi teritoriebi, magram isini ar Semodis Cvens mmarTvelobaSi.
– nakrZalebSi ar moewyoba sarekreacio zonebi?
– ara, nakrZalSi sul sxva SezRudvebia. iq vizitiors mxolod Sesvla da gamosvla SeuZlia ise, rom iq araferi Seicvalos da daziandes. nakrZalebs kanonmdebloba icavs da TavisiT unda ganviTardes, adamianis zemoqmedebis gareSe.
– rogorc vici, tyis Sesasvlelidan gamoaqvT SeSa, siRrmeSi Sesvla uWirT ugzobis da utransportobis gamo.
– adre namdvilad ase iyo. Cven, rogorc tyis marTvis organo, pasuxismgebelni varT rogorc gzebis gayvanaze, ise zedmeti xeebis gamotanaze. jer kidev 2015 wels Catarda tyis inventarizacia mTavrobis dafinansebiT, ris Sedegadac Sedga tyis marTvis 10-wliani gegma, romelSic mocemulia teritoriebi, sadac SesaZlebelia xeebis Wra mosaxleobis socialuri moTxovnilebebis dakmayofilebis mizniT. Cven yovelwliurad vamtkicebT, sad ra sigrZis da moculobis gza gaviyvanoT tyekafis gamosatanad.
– tyekafis kuTxiT Tu aris darRvevebi da ra sistemiT jarimdebian?
– samwuxarod, aris. araerTi gafrTxilebis, dajarimebis da sxva RonisZiebebis gatarebis miuxedavad, mainc Sedian tyeSi da ukanonod Wrian xeebs. Tu metyeve ipovis moWril xeebs da iqve daakavebs am masalas, igi gadava saxelmwifo sakuTrebaSi, xolo ukanono mWreli dajarimdeba am masalis Rirebulebis xuTmagi odenobiT (magaliTad, wiwvovani xe-tye – 22 laria erTi kuburi metri). gatanili Tu aqvs – eqvsmagiT, xolo Tu es jarima aRemateba 1000 lars, saqme gadaecema sisxlis samarTlis gamoZiebas da sul sxva muxliT gasamarTldeba damrRvevi.
– ra kriteriumebiT arCevT mosaxleobas, romelsac aqvs SeSiT sargeblobis ufleba?
– qveynis masStabiT TviTmmarTvelobebi agzavnian moqalaqeebis monacemebs centralizebul bazaSi da Semdeg iqidan nawildeba. sxvaTa Soris, maRalmTiani statusiT mosargeble ojaxebs ufleba aqvT, yovelwliurad moixmaron 15 kubmetramde SeSa. gadasaxadi minimalizebulia, 5-6 lari – erT kubmetrze (wiwvovnebze). Cven mosaxleobas vaZlevT rogorc SeSas, ise masalas. siebs kanonis mixedviT adgens municipalitetSi Seqmnili komisia. sxvaTa Soris, masSi akrZalulia satyeos warmomadgenlis Seyvana. cxadia, es Cven gvacilebs arasasurvel pasuxismgeblobas. masalis moculobas komisia gansazRvravs. Semdeg Cven gvegzavneba sia, romel moqalaqes ramdeni masala risTvis esaWiroeba, saTanado daskvnebiTa da fotomasaliT. Cvenc am mocemulobis farglebSi, vexmarebiT da vamaragebT mosaxleobas saTanado xe-tyiT.
– ramdenad daavadebulia tye?
– Zalian gaaqtiurda am bolo sam weliwadSi naZvis xmobis procesi xulos da Suaxevis municipalitetebSi. masobrivi xmobis adgilebSi, daaxloebiT 4 aTas km-is farglebSi, programulad dagegmili gvaqvs xeebis moWra-gamotana, mavneblebze damuSaveba. iq mosaxleoba ver Sedis, radgan Sorsaa da mouxerxebelia transportiT sargebloba. Cven Tavad movagvarebT am problemas da miRebul merqans kanonmdeblobis Sesabamisad gavuSvebT socialuri moxmarebisTvis.
– tyis mavneblebs ra gziT ebrZviT?
– mavneblebic Zalian gaaqtiurda bolo wlebSi. adre mxolod gasuli saukunis 50-60-ian wlebSi iyo qerqiWamiebis am masStabis Semoseva. periodulad xdeba maTi afeTqeba. amis gamomwvevi sxvadasxva faqtoria. vcdilobT, daavadebuli xeebi uceb movWraT da gamovitanoT, raTa danarCenebi gadavarCinoT daRupvas. aseve, SuaxevSi CamovayalibeT specialurad am miznisTvis aRWurvili laboratoria mTavrobisa da veluri bunebis kavkasiis fondis dafinansebiT. SeZenilia uaxlesi teqnika da laboratoriuli kvlevebisaTvis aucilebeli mowyobiloba.
– wablis da bzis xeebi ra mdgomareobaSia?
– wablis xeebis gaxmobis procesi dawyebulia. iaponiasa da germaniaSi es jiSebi ver gadaarCines da iq mTlianad gadaSenda. Cven mivmarTeT uaxles meTodologias, romelic gagviziara TurqeTis satyeo departamentma. aRsaniSnavia, rom am laboratoriaSi ar viyenebT qimias, raTa ar davazianoT buneba. aq gamogvyavs sasargeblo mwerebi, romlebic mavneblebs anadgureben. aseTia, magaliTad, didi rizofagusi, romelic lafanWamias anadgurebs. maT vasaxlebT daavadebul xeebze da iq mravldebian. aseve gamogvyavs wablis kibos sawinaaRmdego soko, romelsac daavadebul xeebze vaTavsebT. gaxsovT, albaT soWis olimpiadis dros CineTidan Semotanil bzis nergebs Semohyva Cveni bzisTvis damRupvel mavnebelTa kvercxebi – bzis alura. maTgan gamoCekili peplebi ikvebebian xis qerqiTa da axalgazrda ylortebiT. isini lamis erT RameSi Wamen mTel bzas. aseve gavrcelda paTogenuri soko, romelsac bzis sidamwvred moixsebien. es yvelaferi safrTxis qveS ayenebs Cvens bunebas. samwuxarod, aWaraSi nedli bza aRar aris. vmuSaobT, raTa tyeebi gadavarCinoT am mavneblebisgan. aseve, minda giTxraT, rom Cvens tyeebs aqvs bunebrivi ganaxlebis saocari unari, Tu mas davicavT anTropogenuri zegavlenisgan, rasac vakeTebT kidec.
– kidev ra siaxleebi gaqvT?
– germaniis ganviTarebis fondTan gaformda TanamSromloba tyis mdgradi marTvis uzrunvelsayofad. gamoyofilia 5-7 milioni evro. wels velodebiT axal dagegmareba-daproeqtebas. mTlianad icvleba koncefcia. rigiT fizikur pirs tyeSi saqmianoba aekrZaleba. iq samuSaoebs mxolod profesionalebi awarmoeben, xolo Cveni moqalaqeebi tyeSi mxolod dasasveneblad da dros gasatareblad Sevlen maTTvis specialurad mowyobil rekreaciul zonebSi.
ukve 2023 wlisTvis Cveni tyis saagento iqneba sruliad uzrunvelyofili teqnikiT, adamianuri resursebiT, Tanamedrove teqnologiebiT, ris Sedegac tyis movla-reabilitacia sruliad axal simaRleebs miaRwevs.
