,,შემდგარი ადამიანია, რომელმაც იცის დროისა და სიტყვის საქმედ ქცევა”
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`dRes mzis sxivebad gadaviSlebi da gavumarTav RmerTs dialogebs~ _ Tavisuflebismoyvare da maZiebeli sulia am sityvebSi gacocxlebuli, es nika WikaiZea _ keTilgonieri, keTilaRnagi, qarizmatuli axalgazrda, romelmac literaturul sarbielze xatovani patriotuli lirikiT Tavisi Rrma kvali ukve aRbeWda. es mkiTxvelebTan Sexvedrisas ikveTeba, xolo socialur qselebSi nikas leqsebs da Canawerebs aTasobiT mkiTxveli iwonebs. dRes nika WikaiZe Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– `mcxeTis qalaqs mironi duRs~. . .albaT, am qalaqSi rom daibadeT da moRvaweobT, sakralurad gesaxebaT? rogori iyo Tqveni bavSvoba?
– vfiqrob, yvelani ase varT – sadac vibadebiT da vizrdebiT, is adgili xdeba CvenTvis gansakuTrebuli. CemTvis aseTi adgili mcxeTaa – aq davibade da gavizarde. garda imisa, rom is Cemi mSobliuri mxarea, aseve udidesi siwmindis damtevi qalaqia, romelic yovelTvis STagonebiT mavsebs. . . bavSvoba laRi da udardeli mqonda, gansakuTrebiT miyvarda fizikuri Sroma da varjiSi.
– `SeCerdi wamo~ – ramdenad xSirad daguflebiaT aseTi gancda da romel wamebs SeaCerebdiT?
– simarTle giTxraT, iseTi gancda jer arasdros mqonia, es sityvebi rom warmomeTqva, magram albaT mova dro, romelic amaze damafiqrebs.
– pirveli Sexvedra muzasTan da Semdeg rogor warimarTa Tqveni literaturuli cxovreba?
– Zalian moulodnelad moxda yvelaferi, maxsovs, samarSruto transportiT skolidan saxlSi vbrundebodi, rodesac moulodnelad, muza mewvia, mere gonebaSi raRac frazebs valagebdi. saxlSi rom davbrundi, pirveli leqsi davwere furcelze, romelic patriotuli suliskveTebisa iyo. ase daiwyo Cemi literaturuli cxovrebis periodi.
– dro da Tqven. . . `dros gadavexvevi da Rvinos davisxam~ _ ambobT erTgan. axla ras etyviT am dros, pandemiiT damZimebuls da apokalifsis momlodines?
– sxvaTa Soris, sul axlaxan warmovTqvi es sityvebi… gaZleba, gaZleba da kidev erTxel gaZleba – ai, amas vetyvi dRevandel samyaros. unda gvaxsovdes, rom yovelive droebiTia da warmavali, TviT droc ki. . .
– raxan apokalipsi vaxseneT, modiT, barem, Tqvens `apokalipsze~ visaubroT, axla prozaulad uambeT mkiTxvels amis Taobaze. . .
– prozaulad amis Taobaze bibliaSi (ioanes gamocxadebaSi) weria. simarTle giTxraT, es Cemi erTaderTi leqsia, romelSic gangeb arsadaa nugeSi, magram ara imitom, rom vinmes SeSinebas isaxavs miznad, aramed imitom, rom sakuTar sulier cxovrebaze dagvafiqros. am leqsis winamorbedi leqsebia `merani~ da `lurja cxenebi~. amas Wkviani mkiTxveli uTqmeladac mixvdeba. `meranSi~ bolosken aseT sityvebs vkiTxulob: `cudad xom mainc ar Caivlis es ganwiruli suliskveTeba~ da a. S. saidanac SegviZlia ioanes es oqros sityvebi amovikiTxoT – `Tuki miwaze davardnili puris marcvali ar mokvda, darCeba calad, xolo Tu mokvda, mraval nayofs gamoiRebs~. aki gamoiRo kidec, xom daemgzavrnen mas am sabediswero gzaze `lurja cxenebi~, romelTa qrolamac saboloo jamSi, ioanesave gamocxadebamdis miaRwia rogorc logikurma mizanma maTi qrolis saukuno Sedegisa. es leqsia swored `apokalipsi~, sadac sami erT mTlianadaa qceuli da romelic sakuTari me-dan abstragirebaSi gadasuli, abstragirebidan sazogado poeziad iqca. aki erTgan weria kidec – `dRes gamoval sakuTari mernebidan~! Cemi es striqonic swored amaze mianiSnebs.
– `me winaparTa fesvebze vdgavar~ – es Tqveni devizia da gzis maniSnebelic? mxatvrulad romel nawarmoebSi ganasxeuleT igi da samomavlod ras isaxavT miznad?
– es leqsi, romlis saTauricaa `aragvis monologi mcxeTasTan~, sinamdvileSi calke leqsad dabeWdili Cemi erT-erTi poemis prologia, aq alegoriuladaa saubari (aragvis, mtkvrisa da mcxeTis saxiT) sam gansxvavebul pirovnebaze, romlis Sinaarsic poemaSia gaxsnili.
– Tavs gulwrfel pirovnebad TvliT? Semdgar adamianad vis miiCnevT?
– Cemi gulwrfeloba Cems leqsebsa da prozaul nawerebSi SeiZleba mkiTxvelma dainaxos. sxva mxriv, adamians rac TviTon surs, mainc imas daijerebs. CemTvis Semdgari adamiania, romelmac icis droisa da sityvis saqmed qceva…
– megobari Cveni sulis nawilia, asea? Tqven da Tqveni megobrebi. . .
– amaze, albaT, maSin Rirs saubari, rodesac megobroba SegiZlia. zogadad, sakmaod bevri megobari myavs, Tumca axlo megobroba mxolod maTTan maqvs, romlebSic, upirveles yovlisa, sakuTar Tavs vxedav.
– `ca fiqrs gadaSlis~, rogorc erTgan ambobT da mze, mTvare, ca, samyaro, RmerTi – es saxexatebi Tqvens poeziaSi bunebis idumalebasTan ziarebis asociacias aRZravs.
– marTalia, buneba mdumarea, utyvi, magram Tuki Sexedav da mousmen, misgan bevr rames iswavli.
– mainc ra aris poezia, `sibrZnis erTi dargi~, rogorc rusTaveli ityoda, Tu. . . Tqveneburad rogor ityviT?
– poezia (literatura) CemTvis sicocxlis procesia, oRond sicocxleze metad lamazi, radgan SemoqmedTan erTad droSi SeuZlia ganagrZos maradiuli arseboba
– `bedniereba mxolod RmerTSia~? ase fiqrobT?
– Tuki am sakiTxs sulieri TvalsazrisiT mivudgebiT, SeuZlebelic iqneba, ase rom ar iyos.
– nika WikaiZe – poeti, romelic kvals aRbeWdavs, saintereso prozaikosi. . . kidev ras daamatebdiT Tqvens wardginebas?
– Cems wardginebas davamateb imas, rom madlobeli var gazeT `aWaris~, Cemi personiT rom dainteresda. warmatebebi `aWaras~ da mis mkiTxvelebs.

