თორნიკე რიჟვაძე: ყველა საქმეს, რომელსაც საძირკველი ჩავუყარეთ, ბოლომდე მივიყვანთ
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pandemia da arCevnebi – gasuli weli am ori movleniT dagvamaxsovrda da dResac aqtualurobas ar kargavs. rogori iyo regionisTvis 2020 da ra molodini unda gvqondes uaxloes momavalSi, am da sxva saintereso detalebiT `aWarasTan~ regionis mTavrobis Tavmjdomare Tornike riJvaZem isaubra.
– pandemia, saparlamento da umaRlesi sabWos arCevnebi, saprotesto aqciebi, am da kidev bevri sxva movlenis momswreni viyaviT 2020 wels. batono Tornike, rogor SeajamebT gasul wels?
– gasuli weli gamowvevebiT savse iyo. pandemiam mTeli msoflio Secvala, maT Soris rigiTi adamianebis cxovreba da bunebrivia, mTeli wlis ganmavlobaSi gviwevda am gamowvevasTan gamklaveba. ra Tqma unda, Zalian mniSvnelovani iyo adamianebis sicocxlesa da janmrTelobaze zrunva. amis paralelurad, Cvens regionSi, gansakuTrebiT baTumSi, mniSvnelovani iyo ekonomikis dinamikis SenarCuneba. jamSi SegviZlia CavTvaloT, rom yvela struqturam maqsimaluri gaakeTa. drodadro ikveTeboda sxvadasxva, maT Soris, obieqturi mizezebiT ganpirobebuli xarvezebi, Tumca Cven am gamowvevas ar davnebdiT. dResac, rodesac me da Tqven vsaubrobT, pirbade gvikeTia da raki pirbadiT vagrZelebT cxovrebas, es imas niSnavs, rom gamowveva rCeba. darwmunebuli var, erTiani ZalisxmeviT, Cven SevZlebT gavumklavdeT pandemias. meorec, gansakuTrebiT mniSvnelovania, Zalian swrafad aRvadginoT ekonomika da turizmi regionSi, vinaidan am mimarTulebiT aris sakmao danakargebi. imisaTvis, rom Cveni moqalaqeebis socialur-ekonomikuri mdgomareoba SevinarCunoT, gvmarTebs Zalian swrafi, efeqturi gadawyvetilebebis miReba, maT Soris, ekonomikuri mimarTulebiT.
– ra aris am kuTxiT dagegmili?
– ramdenime kviris win saswavlo procesi ganaxlda skolebSi, aseve, skolamdel saaRmzrdelo dawesebulebebSi. mTel rig segmentebSi, rogoricaa municipaluri transporti, sarestorno mimarTuleba, Semsubuqda SezRudvebis didi nawili da epidviTarebis gaTvaliswinebiT aucileblad vimsjelebT komendantis saaTTan mimarTebaSi, aseve, sxva sferoebis Tanmimdevrul gaxsnaze. CvenTvis mTavari amocana iqneba, baTums davubrunoT turistebi rac SeiZleba male, Tumca es, kidev erTxel xazgasmiT aRvniSnav, unda gakeTdes epidemiologTa rekomendaciebis dacviT, miRweuli Sedegi rom SevinarCunoT, amavdroulad ki mTavar amocanas, ekonomikis aRdgenas, xeli SevuwyoT TiToeulma Cvenganma. rogorc mTavrobis, aseve moqalaqeebis rolic da pasuxismgeblobac didia. CemTvis gasagebia, rom SezRudvebis fonze, roca vebrZviT pandemias, metad gauWirda mosaxleobas, gaica miznobrivi daxmarebebi, Tumca rac gaica, SesaZloa ar iyos sakmarisi. Cven am yvelafridan gamomdinare gvWirdeba ekonomikaSi swrafi dinamika. darwmunebuli var, zafxulisTvis garkveuli gardamtexi Sedegebi ukve gveqneba ekonomikis kuTxiT, maT Soris, regionuli ekonomikis WrilSic. pandemiasTan brZolaSi didi roli hqonda medpersonals. es adamianebi sakuTari sicocxlis riskis fasad, CvenTan erTad, bevrs akeTebdnen. didi madloba maT. marTlac gamoikveTnen Tanamedroveobis gmirebi, pirvel rigSi, eqimebi, aseve, sxva samsaxurebis warmomadgenlebi. meore mniSvnelovani sakiTxi SarSan arCevnebi iyo.
– arCevnebi, romlis Sedegebs dRemde ar aRiarebs opozicia. . . maT mTavrobis saxlis win mowyobili hqondaT `Tavisuflebis kvartalic~. . .
– roca arasasurveli Sedegi dgeba, gansakuTrebiT maSin, roca zedmetad ambiciuri molodini aqvT, roca saqme exeba politikas, iq, Semdgom, subieqturadac ki xdeba protestis gamoxatva. Cven, yvela vTanxmdebiT – saerTaSoriso Tanamegobroba, reputaciuli organizaciebi, rom arCevnebma Caiara Tavisufal da konkurentunarian garemoSi. amitom legitimaciasTan mimarTebaSi kiTxvebi ar unda ismebodes. rac Seexeba mimdinare procesebs, esec TavalsaCino iyo, Tu ra meTodebs iyenebdnen garkveuli politikuri Zalebi, rom moexdinaT erTgvari revanSis inspirireba, vnaxeT isic, ra SedegebiT dasrulda konkretuli iniciativebi, rac kanonTan Sesabamisi ar iyo. moqalaqeebsac ekuTvniT madloba, maTi moTmineba samagaliTo iyo. Cven SevZeliT, erTianobiT da Tmenis maRali valdebulebiT, es yvelaferi logikur kalapotSi Camdgariyo. yvelas sakuTari adgili ganesazRvra sazogadoebaSic da politikur koniunqturaSic. rac Seexeba momavals, bunebrivia, Cveni mTavari amocana, rogorc ukve mogaxseneT, aris is yoveldRiuri gamowvevebi, romlebic ukavSirdeba, erTi mxriv, epidemiologiuri situaciis stabilizacias da, meore mxriv ki ekonomikis aRdgenas, rac maT Soris aWaraSi mcxovrebi mosaxleobisTvis aris mniSvnelovani da unda uzrunvelyos maTi grZelvadiani keTildReoba. swored am yvelaferze vmuSaobT. amasTan, arCevnebis nawilSi minda vTqva, rom kidev erTxel gamoCnda – jansaR politikur Zalas, rogoricaa Cveni partia `qarTuli ocneba~, xalxma mesamed gamoucxada ndoba. esec TvalsaCinoa Cveni qveynis istoriuli ganviTarebis konteqstSi, vinaidan `qarTuli ocneba~ erTaderTi politikuri Zalaa, romelmac Zalian maRali ndoba miiRo rigiT mesame arCevnebSi da es aRiares Cvenma strategiulma partniorma Tu saerTaSoriso organizaciebma. Cven aWaris umaRles sabWoSic didi ndoba gamogvicxada mosaxleobam. regionis sakanonmdeblo organoSi konstituciuri umravlesobiT varT warmodgenili. es Zalian didi legitimaciacaa da didi ndobac, romelic kidev ufro met pasuxismgeblobas akisrebs rogorc mTavrobas – aRmasrulebel gunds, aseve deputatebs. mniSvnelovania, xalxi maTgan grZnobdes mxardaWeras. amdenad, 2020 weli iyo gamowvevebiT savse, Tumca iyo gamarjvebis welic Cveni politikuri ZalisTvis, rac Zalian didi pasuxismgeblobaa Semdegi oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi. yvelas gvmarTebs am pasuxismgeblobis Rirseulad da jerovnad tareba.
– batono Tornike, mTavrobis saxlTan aqciebs marTavdnen socialuri problemebis mqone jgufebi, maT Soris, `ocnebis qalaqis~ mcxovreblebic.
– TiToeuli adamianis protesti, gansakuTrebiT roca socialur da yofiT sakiTxebs exeba, aris sayuradRebo rogorc CemTvis, ise TiToeuli Cveni gundis wevrisTvis. protestis formebis Tu pretenziebis miuxedavad, Cven mainc yovelTvis vcdilobT, dialogis reJimSi gadavWraT sakiTxebi da siRrmiseulad SeviswavloT moTxovnebi, rac SesaZloa, Tundac erT adamians awuxebdes. Cveni xelisufleba marTlac gamorCeulia rogorc adamianis uflebebis dacvis, ise humanurobis kuTxiT, maT Soris, socialuri politikis nawilSi bevri wingadadgmuli nabijia, rac unda SevinarCunoT. aseve, gvesmis, rom xalxs kidev meti mzrunveloba sWirdeba. gamoxatvis formebi misaRebia demokratiuli saxelmwifosTvis, CvenTvis da TiToeuli adamianis winaSe gvaqvs valdebuleba, amitom wyena naklebad gvaqvs, es ufro aris motivacia, raTa meti gavakeToT. yvela saqmes, romelsac saZirkveli CavuyareT, bolomde miviyvanT. miuxedavad imisa, rom ekonomika dRes krizisul mdgomareobaSia, arc erTi proeqti, gansakuTrebiT regionis WrilSi, ar gaCerebula da ar Seferxebula. yvela dawyebuli saqme miva bolomde, iseve rogorc dRes gvaqvs dasrulebuli stadioni, ganaTlebis qalaqi, mSenebare `ocnebis qalaqi~. kidev sxva, ramdenime proeqti ganxorcieldeba, romelTa roli mniSvnelovania rogorc ekonomikaSi, ise rigiTi mcxovreblebisTvis. movusmine wablanelebsac, movusmen sxvebsac. SesaZloa, zogjer adamianebis moTxovnebi gadametebuli iyos, magram mainc vcdilobT, Cveni yuradReba, pasuxismgeblobidan gamomdinare, ar moakldes arc erT moqalaqes da Sedegebic ar daayovnebs.
– baTumelebi iwoneben stadions, ganaTlebis qalaqs da sxva proeqtebs, Tumca iwuneben `ambasadoris~ mSeneblobas.
– samwuxarod, zogjer gviwevs rogorc popularuli, ise arapopularuli gadawyvetilebebis miReba. am konkretul proeqtTan dakavSirebiT araerTxel gavakeTe ganmarteba da, vfiqrob, yvelaferi avxseni, damatebiT verafers getyviT. is, rom konkretuli obieqti gasxvisda wlebis win, is, rom developers hqonda konkretuli legitimuri molodini, ra Tqma unda, xSir SemTxvevaSi, Cveni gadawyvetilebis samarTlebriv nawilSic aisaxeba. Sesabamisma uwyebam imsjela da miiRo gadawyvetileba, rac saWirod CaTvala. CemTvis gasagebia sazogadoebis da baTumelebis nawilis protesti, gulwrfel protestTan dakavSirebiT metad vcdilob gadawyvetilebis axsnas, magram am yvelafers hqonda preistoria. `ambasadoris~ irgvliv imsjela konkretulma kompetenturma uwyebam, maT Soris kompetenturma eqspertebma da miiRes erTgvari Sualeduri gadawyvetileba.
– rogorc viciT, TbilisSi igegmeba samSeneblo amnistia da regionSic msjelobT am sakiTxze. msgavsi amnisticia xom ar waaxalisebs mSeneblebs?
– samSeneblo seqtori erT-erTi aqtualuri seqtoria, romelsac mxardaWera sWirdeba. mxardaWera aqvT da eqnebaT momavalSic sakanonmdeblo da administraciul donezec, Tumca yvelas uwevs da mouwevs TamaSis wesebs daemorCilos. rac Seexeba amnisticiis nawils, Cvenc gvaqvs Sesabamisi konsultacia, pirvel rigSi, qalaqis xelmZRvanelobasTan da vmuSaobT, rom es problemebi gadaiWras mSeneblebis sasargeblod, magram kidev erTxel vityvi, garkveuli TamaSis wesebze damorCileba yvelas mouwevs da es wesebic yvelasTvis cnobilia – gamWvirvaloba da regulaciebidan gamomdinare yvela wesis Sesruleba.
– batono Tornike, medikosebi saubroben pandemiis mesame talRazec. aris Tu ara regioni mzad gamowvevebs gaumklavdes?
– saakordinacio sabWos formatSi TiTqmis yovelkvireulad, yovel meore dRes ganvixilavT rogorc regionSi, ise qveyanaSi arsebul epidviTarebas da am yvelafridan gamomdinare viRebT gadawyvetilebebs, es iqneba damatebiTi SezRudvebi, Semsubuqeba, prevenciuli RonisZiebebi Tu sxva. minda giTxraT, rom pandemia globaluri movlenaa da, ra Tqma unda, verc infrastruqtura da verc medpersonali ver iqneboda srul mzadyofnaSi, Tumca Cven Zalian male SevZeliT igive sawolfondis mobilizeba, respublikuri saavadmyofos swraf aRWurvas Tavi rom davaneboT, medpersonalmac agviwyo fexi da SevZeliT am dinamikiT aqamde movsuliyaviT. Tu isev iqneba epidafeTqeba, Cven SevZlebT efeqturad gamklavebas, amaSi mTavrobis da eqimebis garda, mniSvnelovania rigiTi moqalaqeebis Tanadgoma da maTi maRali pasuxismgebloba elementaruli rekomendaciebis dacvis kuTxiT. yvelaze efeqtur saSualebad mainc rCeba rekomendaciebis dacva, vaqcinac iqneba xelmisawvdomi. SezRudvebis Semsubuqebac ise moxdeba, rom epidviTarebas da stabilizacias didi riski ar SevuqmnaT.
– dabolos, gazeTi `aWara~ 100 wlisaa, ras usurvebT saukunovan beWdur gamocemas?
– minda mogilocoT saiubileo TariRi da gisurvoT SemoqmedebiTi warmatebebi. `aWara~ aris gamocema, romelsac Cveni regionisTvis mniSvnelovani funqcia aqvs. meti warmateba Tqven.
