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ramdenime dRis win baTumSi e.w. ocnebis qalaqis mcxovreblebma aWaris jandacvis saministrosTan saprotesto aqcia moawyves. momitingeebma ganacxades, rom Tu xelisufleba ar Seasrulebs maT moTxovnebs, isini protestis ukidures formebs mimarTaven. . .
SegaxsenebT: `ocnebis qalaqi~ – esaa dasaxleba yofili rusuli samxedro bazis teritoriaze. aq, 2012 wels, `qarTuli ocnebis~ xelisuflebaSi mosvlamde cota xniT adre, bunebrivi pirobebisa da usaxsrobis gamo, maRalmTianeTidan gadmosaxlda 900-mde ojaxi – ekomigrantebi, mravalSviliani ojaxebi. isini barakebsa da vagonebSi dabinavdnen da amJamad gausaZlis pirobebSi cxovroben. 2019 wels, xelisufleba maT barakebis adgilze sacxovrebeli kompleqsis aSenebas dahpirda. adgilobrivebi iTxoven garantiebs, rom maT sacxovrebeli farTis an fuladi kompensaciis gareSe ar datoveben. amasTan, isini individualuri xelSekrulebebis gaformebas iTxoven imis dasturad, rom sabinao farTiT yvela maTgani dakmayofildeba.
`viTxovT, xelSekrulebebis dadebas, erTgvar dazRvevas, ris Semdegac xmas ar amoviRebT. Cveni moTxovnaa, 1740 ojaxTan gaformdes individualuri xelSekruleba, romelSic gaiwereba, ra etapze uzrunvelyofen maT an binebiT, an fuladi kompensaciiT, an daukanoneben sacxovrebel farTs, me vsaubrob `ocnebis qalaqis~ samive dasaxlebis saxeliT~, – ganacxada aqciis erT-erTma monawile marina beriZem.
am droisaTvis `ocnebis qalaqis~ mSenebloba aqtiurad mimdinareobs da samuSaoebis didi nawili ukve Sesrulebulia. pirvel etapze sami 12-sarTuliani sacxovrebeli saxli aSendeba.
rogorc adre aWaris mTavrobis Tavmjdomare Tornike riJvaZem ganacxada: `pirvel etapze 580-ze meti sacxovrebeli binis aSeneba igegmeba, xolo Semdeg imdeni bina aSendeba, ramdenic saWiro iqneba iq mcxovrebi mosaxleobis dasakmayofileblad~.
`ocnebis qalaqis~ problemebis gadaWrisTvis prioritetebis oTxwlian dokumentSi gawerilia Tanxebi rogorc mSeneblobis pirveli etapis, ise meore etapis ganxorcielebisTvis. rac Seexeba binebis gadanawilebis sakiTxs, yovel xuTSabaTs ikribeba samTavrobo komisia. Cven mzad varT, `ocnebis qalaqis~ nebismieri warmomadgeneli SeviyvanoT samTavrobo komisiaSi da yovel sxdomaze maTi warmomadgeneli miRebul gadawyvetilebas Tavad moawers xels~, – ganacxada aWaris finansTa da ekonomikis ministrma jaba futkaraZem.
`masStaburi socialuri proeqti `ocnebis qalaqi~ aWaris avtonomiuri respublikis biujetidan finansdeba da misi Rirebuleba 38,7 milioni laria. mSenebloba 2020 wlis TebervalSi daiwyo. am teritoriaze sacxovrebeli saxlebis mSenebloba gadaWris umwvaves socialur problemas im adamianebisTvis, romlebsac aq sicocxlisTvis Seusabamo pirobebSi uwevT cxovreba~, – acxadeben aWaris mTavrobaSi.
`zustad erTi wlis win, baTumSi daviwyeT `ocnebis qalaqis~ mSenebloba. dRes samuSaoebis 70%-ze meti ukve Sesrulebulia. gansakuTrebiT mniSvnelovania, rom Sesabamisi uwyebebi samuSaoebis xarisxs yovelkvireulad amowmeben. es proeqti 2000-ze met bavSvs auxdens ocnebas da miscems maT normalur, Rirseul pirobebSi cxovrebis saSualebas~, – ganacxada aWaris mTavrobis Tavmjdomare Tornike riJvaZem, romelic samuSaoebis mimdinareobas adgilze gaecno.
aRsaniSnavia isic, rom mSenebloba, pandemiis periodSi, Sesabamisi rekomendaciebis dacviT, uwyvet reJimSi mimdinareobs. am etapze gamocxadebulia tenderi gazmomaragebis da Sida wyalmomaragebis qselis mowyobis samuSaoebze.
`pandemiis da sxva gamowvevebis miuxedavad, am proeqts aucileblad bolomde miviyvanT ise, rom arc erTi usaxlkaro ojaxi ar dagvrCes yuradRebis gareSe~, – ganacxada riJvaZem. misive TqmiT, mimdinareobs muSaoba kriteriumebTan dakavSirebiT aWaris jandacvis saministros, ekonomikis saministrosa da saerTaSoriso organizaciebis CarTulobiT: `Zalian male SevjerdebiT kriteriumebze, romelic samarTlianobis da obieqturobis nawilSi arc erT kiTxvas ar datovebs upasuxod~.
Tu ras fiqrobs Seqmnil viTarebaze da ra perspeqtivebi gaaCniaT `ocnebis qalaqis~ mcxovreblebs, amaze saubrobs `aWarasTan~ interviuSi aWaris avtonomiuri respublikis janmrTelobisa da socialuri dacvis ministris moadgile ramaz jinWaraZe, romelic ukve weliwadia, rac CarTulia am procesSi. igi piradad xelmZRvanelobda siebis Sedgenis da kriteriumebis gansazRvris sakmaod rTul da Sromatevad process aWaris finansTa da ekonomikis saministros TanamSromlebTan erTad.
– batono ramaz, amJamad ra etapzea `ocnebis qalaqis~ mSenebloba?
– iciT, rom Seqmnilia komisia, romelic ixilavs aq mcxovrebi ojaxebis problemebs da muSaobs konkretul kriteriumebze. am procesSi CarTulia iunisefis, saxalxo damcvelis aparatis da wiTeli jvris warmomadgenloba. wina komisiis wevrebisgan ukve miviReT rekomendaciebi, romlis mixedviT detalebs vazustebT. aqve minda aRvniSno, rom komisiis muSaoba aris absoluturad Ria. mis sxdomebs eswrebian yofili 53-e, 25-e batalionebis da opizrebis dasaxlebis mkvidrni. aqedan gamomdinare, minda dagarwmunoT, rom es mSenebloba iqneba yvelaze gamWvirvale proeqti, rac ki odesme yofila Cvens regionSi.
– kargad maxsovs Tqveni muSaobis pirveli etapi, roca adgilobrivi mosaxleebis daxmarebiT adgendiT siebs. Semdeg ra Seicvala?
– Cven 7 Tvis ganmavlobaSi vmuSaobdiT `ocnebis qalaqSi~. iqve gvqonda mowyobili kabineti, sadac dilidan saRamomde viRebdiT iqaur mkvidrT, raTa dagvefiqsirebina yvelas vinaoba da aq cxovrebis winapiroba. anu ra saxis aucileblobam aiZula barakebSi, gausaZlis pirobebSi cxovreba wylis, eleqtroenergiisa da kanalizaciis gareSe. mosaxleobis gafiltvris procesSi aqtiurad monawileobdnen adgilobrivi aqtivistebi da Cvenze metad cdilobdnen gamoevlinaT adamianebi, romlebic amRvreul wyalSi Tevzis daWeras lamobdnen. mogexsenebaT, msgavs situaciaSi aris aseTi SemTxvevebi. axla ki Seiqmna samTavrobo komisia, romelic muSaobs kriteriumebze, Tu vin unda dakmayofildes pirvel rigSi biniT, maTi warmomadgenlebic eswrebian am sxdomebs da ratom arian ukmayofilo, gaugebaria.
– ratom ver SeZles mSeneblobis gaSla mTel sivrceze?
– imitom, rom ar iyo sakmarisi Tavisufali teritoria. mxolod arsebul cariel sivrceze daiwyo mSenebloba. aq sam 12-sarTulian korpusze meti fizikurad ver daeteoda. mxolod mas Semdeg, rac iq xalxi Sesaxldeba da gaiwmindeba sxva adgili barakebisgan, SevZlebT axali korpusebis mSeneblobis dawyebas. ase gagrZeldeba manam, sanam yvela ojaxi ar dakmayofildeba.
– ras ityviT `ocnebis qalaqSi~ mcxovrebTa protestze?
– simarTle giTxraT, namdvilad ar mesmis am protestis arc forma da arc Sinaarsi. saprotesto maT araferi aqvT. rac axla iq keTdeba, aris xelisuflebis keTili neba da aqedan gamomdinare, gaugebaria, riT arian ukmayofilo. imiT, rom mTavroba zrunavs maTi Svilebis keTildReobaze da msoflio pandemiis pirobebSic ki ar Seuwyvetia mSenebloba? kargad iciT, ra saxsrebzea saubari da rogor gauWirda saxelmwifos arsebuli ekonomikuri krizisis gamo. yvelafris miuxedavad, arc ki gvifiqria korpusebis mSeneblobis SeCereba an komisiis funqcionirebis Sewyveta. CvenTvis gasagebia, vis aZlevs xels am aqciis sul sxva kuTxiT warmoCena, magram mosaxleobam xom icis, sad, rogor da ratom keTdeba? ubralod, guli gvwydeba, rom ayolili arian usafuZvlo da gaumarTlebel braldebebs da eWvs aCenen sxva mosaxleebSi. msgavsi ram namdvilad ar daumsaxurebia aWaris mTavrobas. Tundac am etapze xom 582 ojaxis problema moixsneba. gana es cotaa? miT umetes, rom arc danarCenebis problemas ugulebelyofen da yvelas hpirdebian normaluri sacxovrebeli pirobebis Seqmnas.
– sul ramden ojaxzea saubari?
– 1700-mde ojaxia. aq cxovrebis gausaZlisi pirobebia. warmoidgineT, kustarulad gakeTebuli Samboebia kanalizaciis nacvlad da epidsaSiSi situacia rom ar warmoiSvas, lamis yvela wuTs gviwevs specmanqanebis gamoZaxeba maT gasawmendad. swored amitom gadawyda, rom aSenebuliyo normaluri korpusebi, mowyobiliyo Tanamedrove infrastruqtura da dawyebuliyo gazificirebis samuSaoebi. merwmuneT, es yvelaferi sakmaod did TanxebTan da samuSaoebTanaa dakavSirebuli, rac ar gakeTdeba ramdenime TveSi. amitomaa gaugebari is aqciebi, rasac adgilobrivebi awyoben yovelgvari xelSesaxebi mizezis gareSe. iseTi STabeWdileba gvrCeba, rom aprotesteben mxolod da mxolod protestis dasafiqsireblad, viRacis davalebiT, rac aranair kavSirSi ar aris konkretulad, `muyaos qalaqTan~. aqac ki moaxerxes realobis amobruneba da jansaRi procesebis damaxinjebul prizmaSi gatareba.
– mainc ra etapzea gazificirebis, wylisa da sakanalizacio sistemis mowyobis samuSaoebi?
– tenderi ukve gamocxadda. Tavisi wesebi aqvs yvelafers. imedi gvaqvs, wlis bolomde SevZlebT am binebis mflobelebisTvis gadacemas.
– Tuki mTavroba Seicvleba, am proeqtis SeCerebis safrTxe xom ar Seiqmneba?
– jer erTi, mTavrobis Secvlaze saubaric ar aris. msgavsi ram uaxloes 4 weliwadSi arc unda davuSvaT. Tumca isea yvela dokumentacia Sedgenili, rom nebismieri axali xelisufleba valdebuli iqneba daasrulos proeqti. amisTvis yvela aucilebeli xelSekruleba gaformebulia. amiT imis Tqma minda, rom Cveni xelisufleba arasodes daaSantaJebs msgavsi TemebiT Tavis amomrCevels. garwmunebT, yvelaferi isea gawerili, 25-e, 53-e batalionebis da opizrebis dasaxlebis yvela ojaxi sabolood dakmayofildeba komfortuli binebiT. amaze ori azri arc SeiZleba arsebobdes.
aqve isic minda aRvniSno, rom `ocnebis qalaqis~ es proeqti mTlianad aWaris mTavrobis damsaxurebaa. gadawyvetileba iyo drouli da gonivruli, rac daadastura cetralurma mTavrobamac da yovelmxriv Seuwyo xeli mis ganxorcielebas.
