რატომ არის რთული, რომ ხელოვანს ჩვენს ქვეყანაში სტაბილური შემოსავალი ჰქონდეს
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27 wlis baTumelma keramikosma da moqandake beqa tabaRuam baTumis #2 sajaro skola daamTavra, Semdeg ki Tbilisis saxelmwifo samxatvro akademiaSi Caabara. aqvs rogorc bakalavris, aseve magistris xarisxic. misi skulpturebi sazRvargareT sxvadasxva qveynis muzeumebsa da galereebs amSvenebs. iseve, rogorc xelovnebis am sferoSi, sportSic warmatebulia – magidis CogburTSi saqarTvelos 19-gzis Cempionia da saerTaSoriso CempionatebSic bevrjer gaumarjvia. beqa eleqtrogitarazec ukravs, xatavs kidec. . . am yovelmxriv niWier axalgazrdas davukavSirdiT da ramdenime kiTxviT mivmarTeT.
– beqa, rodis dainteresdiT ZerwviT?
– keramikasTan Sexeba bavSvobidan maqvs, radgan mSoblebic keramikosebi arian. dedaCemis, lia kaspelaSvilis studia #2 sajaro skolaSi ukve didi xania funqcionirebs, amitom TixasTan Sexeba pataraobidanve mqonda. simarTle giTxraT, maSin sxva raRacebiT viyavi gatacebuli da es saqmianoba didad ar momwonda. ZiriTadad, sporti iyo Cemi interesis sfero, Tumca dedaCemis studiaSi gakveTilebs veswrebodi. sxva moswavleebTan erTad mec vZerwavdi patara formebs. sxvaTa Soris, erT-erTi forma, romelic 11 wlisam gamovZerwe, dRemde yvela Cems gamofenaze Tilismad damaqvs, umaRles saswavlebelSi Cabarebis dro rom dadga, yvelaferi kargad avwon-davwone da keramikis dizainis ganxriT Cavabare.
– ZiriTadad, ra masaliT muSaobT?
– keramika aris sfero, romelic moicavs faifursac, TeTr Tixasac, qarTul Tixasac da a.S. maqsimalurad vcdilob, yvelanairi masala gamoviyeno, rac keramikaSi Sedis, vmuSaob mxolod da mxolod keramikuli masalebiT. is ferebi, romlebic Cems namuSevrebs adevs, ar aris ubralo saRebavi da laqi, es aris keramikuli Wiqurebi, sxvadasxva metalis Jangeulebi, keramikuli pigmentebi da a.S. mxolod da mxolod xarisxiani keramikuli masalaa, romelic gamowvis Sedegad miiReba.
– damzadebis teqnologia rogoria?
– teqnika faifurze da Tixaze muSaobis drosac erTnairia. vqmni namuSevars, romelic jer aucileblad unda gaSres, Semdeg RumelSi SedarebiT dabal temperaturaze vwvav. erTi gamowvis Semdeg keramikuli pigmentebiT vferav da Semdeg meored vwvav. Aaucilebelia, minimum 2-jer gamowva, rom namuSevarma dasrulebuli saxe miiRos. rac Seexeba qandakebas, mogexsenebaT, igi qvis, metalisac arsebobs, me ki keramikul qandakebebs vakeTeb. vZerwav igive teqnologiiT, Tumca rac unda didi forma airCio, aucilebelia SigniT sicariele darCes. mTlians ver gamoZerwav, radgan RumelSi ar gamoiwveba. amis gakeTeba Zerwvis procesTan SedarebiT ufro rTulia, radgan, faqtobrivad, aSeneb, kedlebi amogyavs da formas Semdeg aZlev.
– Tixaze muSaoba erTgvari Terapiaa. . .
– diax, am dros mTlianad modunebuli var, irgvliv rame problema Tu arsebobs, yvelaferi maviwydeba. Zerwvisas mxolod sakuTar TavTan erTad vrCebi da am procesiT maqsimalur siamovnebas viReb. ZiriTadad SemoqmedebiT qandakebebs vakeTeb da am dros aTmag siamovnebas viReb.
– rogoria Tqveni idealuri samuSao garemo?
– zogadad, keramikas sisufTave sWirdeba, yvela instrumenti Tu masala Tavis adgilze unda idos, Tumca Cems saxelosnoSi yovelTvis qaosia. muSaobis procesSi xan romel masalas veZeb, xan romels. Tu SemoqmedebiT namuSevars vakeTeb, aucileblad musika unda iyos CarTuli.
– ra aris TqvenTvis prioritetuli?
– Zerwvis procesSi zustad igive forma da simetria SevinarCuno, rac Cavifiqre. Semdeg sakuTar Tavs maqsimalur Tavisuflebas vaZlev. amosayvan, xeliT satrialebel Carxze vZerwav maRal cilindrs, ubralo, swor formas. Tu iseTi zomisaa, rogoric msurs, Signidan da garedan sxvadasxva instrumentiT konkretul formas vaZlev. es namuSevari cilindridan sul sxvagvar formad gardaiqmneba. yvelaze mniSvnelovani proporciebis dacvaa, rac Tavidanve Cafiqrebuli maqvs.
– rogorc vici, xatavT kidec. . .
– diax. savaldebulo ar aris, keramikoss xatvac SeeZlos, SegiZlia mxolod Zerwo, namuSevari ar dafero da arc moxatvasTan gqondes Sexeba, magram, ra Tqma unda, ukeTesia, roca xatva gexerxeba. qaRaldze an tiloze xatvisas, ZiriTadad, abstraqtul namuSevrebs vasruleb. saamiso codna samxatvro akademiaSi miviRe. 6 wlis ganmavlobaSi vswavlobdi, rogor dagvexata portreti, naturmorti da a.S. yvela es etapi gaviare da vinaidan sxvadasxva teqnika Seviswavle, SemiZlia, Cems ideebze ufro Tavisuflad vimuSao. vxatav rogorc fanqarSi, aseve saRebavebiT.
– bevri ver axerxebs SemoqmedebiTi Canafiqris realizebas, ra problebis winaSe dganan dRes mxatvrebi da keramikosebi?
– es iseTi sferoa, Tavad artistma, avtorma unda iaqtiuro, Seni namuSevari kargad unda SefuTo da farTo sazogadoebas miawodo, daanaxo im kuTxiT, rom daaintereso. problemas imaSi vxedav, rom pirobiTad, roca sxva qveynebSi raRac 5 welia modaSi, CvenTan es gacilebiT gvian xdeba aqtualuri. axla gamoyenebiT nivTs ufro gayidi, vidre SemoqmedebiT namuSevars, romelic, ubralod, gasaformeblad unda dados adamianma saxlSi.
– SekveTebze Tu muSaobT?
– samwuxarod, CvenTan jerjerobiT keramika im etapze ar aris, rom SemoqmedebiTi qandakebebi Tu sxva namuSevrebi stabiluri Semosavlis wyarod aqcio. Sesabamisad vakeTeb sxvadasxva keramikul nivTs, WurWels, aqsesuars, romelic martivad gaiyideba, magaliTad, mamakacebisTvis – Cibuxebs. aqsesuarebi iafia, farTo sazogadoebisTvis fasi misaRebia da iyideba. ra Tqma unda, vmuSaob SekveTebzec. interieris dizainis kuTxiT onkanis niJarebsac vamzadeb, axali proeqtia da esec komerciuli mxarea. gamiyidia ramdenime skulpturac, oRond roca SemoqmedebiT namuSevars akeTeb, fasi aTjer da ocjer Zviria, vidre ubralo Wiqa, doqi an larnaki. erTnairi masaliTac rom iyos Sesrulebuli da erTi Rirebuleba hqondes, SemoqmedebiT namuSevars sul sxva datvirTva aqvs, radgan es ukve sagamofeno egzemplaria. Cvens qveyanaSi rTulia, amiT stabiluri Semosavali gqondes, Sesabamisad, SekveTebs vasruleb didi xania, esenia: TefSebi, Wiqebi, samkaulebi, aqsesuarebi da a.S.
– Tqveni namuSevrebi CineTis minis dinastiis dros warmoebuli faifuris WurWlis asociacias iwvevs, aRmosavleli ostatebis gavlena igrZnoba. . .
– Tamamad SemiZlia vTqva, rom arc stili, arc forma da a.S. gadmoRebuli aravisgan maqvs. ra Tqma unda, yovelTvis sainteresoa sxvisi namuSevrebis daTvaliereba, Tan araerT keramikoss vicnob msoflios sxvadasxva qveynidan, albaT, gamocdilebis da teqnikis gacvla Tavis kvals tovebs. Cemi Semoqmedebis Sesaxeb yvelas sxvadasxva azri ebadeba, zogs dasavluri kulturis asociacia uCndeba, zogs – aziuris. mec xan Tanamedrove, xanac antikur stilSi vmuSaob, Tumca es TavisTavad gamodis.
– gamofenebSi monawileobT?
– ZiriTadad keramikuli skulpturebiT vmonawileob – saqarTveloSic da sazRvargareTac. tardeba simpoziumebi, saidanac mowvevebi maqvs. SarSan latviaSi da ukrainaSi viyavi. simpoziumebze sxvadasxva qveynidan 2 kviris ganmavlobaSi ikribebian keramikosebi, moqandakeebi, muSaoben did saxelosnoSi, erTad axdenen namuSevrebis gamowvas da bolos daskvniTi gamofena ewyoba. araerT qveyanaSi momiwia gamgzavreba da Cemi namuSevrebic sxvadasxva galereaSia warmodgenili. pirveli personaluri gamofena axlaxan, 13 aprils baTumis xelovnebis muzeumSi mqonda.
– eleqtrogitarazec ukravT. . .
– diax, musikasTan Sexebac bavSvobidan maqvs, sxvadasxva Janris SemsruleblebTan vaxloblobdi da megobrebTan erTad vukravdi. melodia rom momewoneboda, mindoda, CemiT Semesrulebina. gitaraze dakvra Cemma Zalian axlo megobarma, niWierma axalgazrda musikosma oTar qaTamaZem maswavla, romelic avtokatastrofaSi 17 wlis asakSi daiRupa. CemTvis saxlSi vukrav xolme, aseve, roca Cems megobrebs mcire koncerti aqvT, 5-10-wuTian monakveTs mec miTmoben, rom gaverTo patara scenaze. es aris Cemi hobi, romelic Zalian did siamovnebas maniWebs.
– kidev ra aris Tqveni interesis sfero?
– magidis CogburTs bavSvobidan vTamaSob, saqarTvelos Cempionati 19-jer maqvs mogebuli, saerTaSoriso Cempionatebic bevrjer momigia da dResac nakrebis wevri var, Tumca bolo wlebia, sakmao dros ver vpoulob stabiluri varjiSisTvis, radgan Cemi prioriteti keramikaze muSaobaa. Sejibreba rom iwyeba, momzadebas erTi TviT adre viwyeb da vmonawileob.
– ra gavlenas axdens mxatvrobaze pandemia?
– Cem irgvliv Zalian bevri xelovani adamiani daiTrguna da Caiketa, rogorc fizikurad, mentaluradac. CemTvis pandemia cudi im mxriv iyo, rom wels gamofenebze 6 sxvadasxva qveynidan mqonda mowveva da mTeli wlis ganmavlobaSi unda memogzaura, Tumca aq CavrCi. . . raRac mxriv kargic aRmoCnda. adre SekveTebze da sxvadasxva proeqtze vmuSaobdi da Zalian bevri dro mexarjeboda, axla es periodi produqtiulad gamoviyene, Sevqmeni skulpturebi, romlebzec aqamde dro ar myofnida. amasTan, TbilisSi Cemi keramikis saxelosno-studia gavxseni. TiTqmis 2 Tvea, aqtiurad vmuSaob, maqvs sxvadasxva abonementi da moswavleebs masterklasebsac vutareb. erT TveSi 16 moswavle miviRe da sakmaod kargad miviwevT win.
– samomavlod ras gegmavT?
– ise swrafad icvleba yvelaferi, rTulia ramis dagegmva. imedi maqvs, is saerTaSoriso gamofenebi, sadac miwveuli viyavi, ganaxldeba da momecema saSualeba, rac SeiZleba met qveyanaSi gavitano Cemi namuSevrebi. minda, rom Cemi qandakebebi sxvadasxva parkSi, galereaSi daidgas da am sferoSi saxeli movixveWo ara mxolod qarTul sazogadoebaSi, aramed sazRvargareTac.
