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qarTul politikaSi aqtualuri aRar aris sakanonmdeblo organoSi opoziciis Sesvla-arSesvlis sakiTxi. politikuri partiebis umravlesobam gadawyvetileba miiRo da qveynis sakanonmdeblo organo ukve ara erTpartiuli, aramed mravalpartiulia. mxolod `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ darCa politikuri vaWrobis reJimSi. partiis wevrebis did nawils, SesaZloa, parlamentSi Sesvlis survili aqvs, magram ukrainaSi myofi lideris nebaze arian damokidebulebi. amis naTeli magaliTia is, rom patimrobidan axalgaTavisuflebuli `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ Tavmjdomare nika melia am dReebSi mixeil saakaSvils ukrainaSi Sexvda.
– 2 weli da 7 Tvea, Cven ar gvqonda Sexvedris SesaZlebloba. me, fizikurad, pasporti ar mqonda, rom dametovebina qveyana. miSas, samwuxarod, dRemde ar eZleva SesaZlebloba, Camovides iq, sadac ekuTvnis yofna. Zalian moxaruli var, rom bevr mniSvnelovan sakiTxze visaubreT. mjera, arcTu ise Soreul perspeqtivaSi Cven kvlav SevxvdebiT ara mxolod kievSi, aramed TbilisSic, es asec unda iyos da SeuZlebelia sxvagvarad moxdes. amisaTvis mniSvnelovania saerTo strategia iyos SemuSavebuli, mteri ar gavaxaroT. uamravi xafangi dagebuli damxvda, cixidan rom gamovedi, bevri adamiani xelebs ifSvnetda, rom iqneb raime gaugebroba moxdes opoziciaSi. Worebs avrceleben, TiTqos miSasTan daZabuli viTareba maqvs, rac aris piriqiT. imaze gonieri xalxia opoziciaSi da `nacionalur moZraobaSi~, vidre mavans hgonia, amitom aravis mivcemT uflebas, provokaciaze wamogvagos da saxelmwifoebrivi safuZvlebi bolomde amoiSanTos. mTavaria, Cven TviTon virwmunoT saqarTveloSi, politikosebma rom gamarjveba SegviZlia, Cven Tu ar virwmuneT, rogor unda irwmunos mosaxleobam, – acxadebs nika melia. Tavis mxriv, arc mixeil saakaSvili rCeba valSi nika melias da xotbas asxams. misive TqmiT, amayobs kidec, rom nika melias TanamebrZoli aris.
– Zalian bednieri var, rom namdvili gmiri nika melia kievSia Camosuli. me mis adgilas davisvenebdi cixis Semdeg, magram rasac vatyob, imxela energia aqvs, erTi wamiT ar SeuZlia dajdoma, dasveneba. Zalian didi gegmebi aqvs nikas da Zalian maRali talRa aswia qarTveli xalxis dasaxmareblad. Cemi azriT, es marTlac unikaluri kombinaciaa. vamayob, rom misi TanamebrZoli var. aRfrTovanebuli var misi gambedaobiT, SeuvalobiT da principulobiT. mgoni, Cvens xalxs yvelaferi gamouva, sxvanairad ar SeiZleba. amdeni welia xalxi Svebas da raRac winsvlas elodeba. Cemi azriT, nika ukve gamarjvebulia, radgan ver gatexes. cixis SiSi saerTod gaaqro. man gaaqro SiSi represiebis, zewolis, sxvadasxva pirobiTobis, radgan roca adamiani aseT standarts qmnis, mere sxvebi valdebulni arian, mihyvnen mis gambedaobas da standarts. es aris gardamtexi momenti, gansakuTrebiT, misi bolo saqcieli saqarTvelos uaxles istoriaSi, axali talRa, axali Zala mieca Cvens xalxs, – acxadebs mixeil saakaSvili.
bunebrivia, mmarTveli gundisTvis nika melia ukanonobis CadenasTan asocirdeba da ara gmirTan.
– roca gambedaobaze da gmirobazea saubari, es gamaRizianebelia. davfiqrdeT, raSi gamoixateba is, rasac miaweren am adamians gmirobad da gambedaobad. rogor SeiZleba, ukanonobis Cadena warmoadgendes gmirobis sagans. es aris yalbi portretebis Seqmnis Zalian cudi mcdelobebi, rac ar aris misaRebi civilizebuli saxelmwifosTvis. aqedan gamomdinare, Cemi piradi azria, rom esec ganwiruli mcdelobebia, vinmes kvlav moasxan wamebulisa da gmiris mantia, es absoluturad cru gmirebis Seqmnis xelovnuri mcdelobaa, – acxadebs `qarTuli ocnebis~ deputati mixeil sarjvelaZe da iqve ganmartavs, rom mixeil saakaSvilis mimarT konkretuli ganaCeni arsebobs da Sesabamisad, misi aRsrulebis saWiroeba iqneba dRis wesrigSi, xolo es rogor aRsruldeba, teqnikis sakiTxia.
– mixeil saakaSvili saqarTvelos moqalaqe araa, es aris faqti. meore, is aris msjavrdebuli samarTaldarRvevis CadenisTvis. aravis SeuzRudavs misTvis saqarTveloSi Camosvla. ubralod, winaswar cnobilia, saqarTveloSi Tu Camova, ra mohyveba amas samarTlebrivi TvalsazrisiT. nuravin Seecdeba, kvlav gamoiwvios qarTuli saxelmwifo da qarTuli samarTali. aravis aqvs ufleba, ufro maRla daayenos partiuli Tu piradi interesi, vidre Cveni qveynis sasicocxlod mniSvnelovani interesia, romelic gulisxmobs samarTlebrivi saxelmwifos arsebobas Cvens qveyanaSi, – acxadebs mixeil sarjvelaZe.
yofil prezidents arc `girCis~ wevri iago xviCia uwonebs gancxadebebs da pozicias. am ukanasknelis TqmiT, mixeil saakaSvilma unda iswavlos megobroba sxva politikur ZalebTan da sul TviTon ar unda iyos princis rolSi.
– am SemTxvevaSi sxva politikur Zalebsac moundebaT, rom saakaSvili aq iyos, maTTan erTad. sxva SemTxvevaSi, mainc da mainc saakaSvilis didi monatreba ar Cans, TavisiT ver Camodis, marto verc mis partias Camohyavs, mxolod iqiT dadian. imisTvis, rom mixeil saakaSvili aq Camovides, unda gaxdes megobruli, mSvidobiani da Tavs ar unda esxmodes sxva politikur Zalebs. Cemi azriT, am Sexvedras raRaca tipis marili aklda iqidan gamomdinare, rom Cven ver miviReT mTavar kiTxvaze pasuxi – Seva Tu ara `nacmoZraoba~ parlamentSi, – acxadebs iago xviCia.
mixeil saakaSvilTan komunikacia aqvs `evropuli saqarTvelodan~ wasul gigi ugulavasac. politikosi ambobs, rom mixeil saakaSvils urCia kidec – `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ parlamentSi Sevides.
– mec maqvs komunikacia, Cems azrs mas veubnebi. magaliTad, vuTxari, rom Cemi azria, `nacionaluri moZraoba~ Sevides parlamentSi. saerTod, vTvli, rom politikaSi mTavari sibece aris gabutva. mTeli rva weliwadi es gza viare, bevrTan viyavi gabutuli da axla vcdilob, rom aravisTan ar viyo gabutuli, yvelas vuTxra is, rasac vfiqrob – davarwmuno imaSi, rasac vfiqrob, rom sworia. amas xan vaxerxeb, xan ver vaxerxeb. amitom ar vapireb aravisTan gabutvas, – ambobs gigi ugulava.
sxvaTa Soris, `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevri roman gociriZe Tvlis, rom partia sakanonmdeblo organoSi unda iyos warmodgenili, radgan parlamentis gareT partiis darCenaze pirvel rigSi `qarTuli ocneba~ ocnebobs da `nacionaluri moZraobis~ parlamentis gareT yofna azianebs rogorc qveyanas, ise partias.
– `nacionaluri moZraobis~ parlamentis gareT darCenaze, pirvel rigSi, `qarTuli ocneba~ ocnebobs, surs, rom CarCes `nacionaluri moZraoba~ quCaSi, gamoiwvion dapirispireba opoziciur flangze da Semdeg adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebSi dasustebuli mivides rogorc `nacionaluri moZraoba~, aseve opoziciuri partiebi. amitom ar unda gavaxaroT da me maqvs imedi, rom arc gavaxarebT. es, pirvel rigSi, Sedis qveynis interesebSi, Semdeg partiis da sabolood viRacis pirovnul interesebSi. mTavari aris is, rom `nacionaluri moZraobis~ gareT darCena azianebs qveyanas da azianebs partias. Tu `nacionaluri moZraoba~ ar aris parlamentSi, maSin ra gvinda TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebSi, an ra resursiT mivdivarT, rodesac vkargavT bevr berkets da saerTaSoriso mxardaWeras. arian adamianebi, romlebic Sinagani rwmeniT gansxvavebulad fiqroben, maT aqvT TavianTi argumentebi. swored am argumentebis Sejereba iyo kievSi, rodesac nika melia Cavida da mixeil saakaSvilTan kidev erTxel iyo es sakiTxi ganxiluli. Cemi poziciaa, rom dros aqvs fasi, axla parlamenti saarCevno kanonze muSaobs, daiwyeba sakonstitucio cvlilebebi da uamravi sakiTxi aris gadasaWreli. opoziciis aqtiuroba sakmarisi ar aris, Cveni mxardaWera da gamagrebaa saWiro Tundac saarCevno kanonmdeblobis cvlilebasTan dakavSirebiT, ar aris sakmarisi rasac dRes ixilaven. Zalian sawyenia, rom es cvlilebebi warmoCenilia gansakuTrebulad pozitiurad. sjobia winas, magram ar aris is, rac unda iyos. `qarTuli ocneba~ inanebs, rogorc Cven vinaneT Tavis droze. Cven rom droze gagvekeTebina, ar gveqneboda amaTTvis saxvewari, esenic rom wavlen opoziciaSi, TavSi dairtyamen muStebs, netav iseTi raRac dagvedo, romelic Cvens sasargeblodac imuSavebdao. erTsa da imave Secdomas uSvebs Cveni politikuri klasi. rac keTdeba sasikeTod, win daxvdeba yvelas, – acxadebs roman gociriZe, Tumca am etapze mainc ucnobia, ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebs kievSi saakaSvili da saqarTveloSi – `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~. gamoricxuli araa, rom `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevrebs moswyindeT damalobanas TamaSi da parlamentSi etapobrivad Sevidnen. rac Seexeba kidev erT opoziciur partias – `evropul saqarTvelos~, faqtobrivad, ramdenime adamianis amarad rCeba, magram, miuxedavad amisa, sakanonmdeblo organoSi Sesvlis winaaRmdegia. principSi, parlamentSi Sesvlaze uars giga bokeria acxadebs, romelsac amomrCevlis mandati ar aqvs da, Sesabamisad, arc sakanonmdeblo organoSi Sesvla uwevs. rac Seexeba `evropuli saqarTvelos~ sxva wevrebs, romlebsac mandatebi aqvT, sakanonmdeblo organoSi muSaobas agrZeleben, paralelurad ki partiis rigebs toveben. diax, `evropuli saqarTvelo~ datova tariel nakaiZemac da is parlamentSi Sevida. rogorc Tavad tariel nakaiZe acxadebs, es gadawyvetileba mas Semdeg miiRo, rac partiam politsabWoze gadawyvita, rom parlamentSi ar Sedis.
– Zalian didi madloba minda gadavuxado `evropul saqarTvelos~, raTa momeca saSualeba parlamentSi movxvedriliyavi da Sesabamisad, am gundTan erTad Zalian seriozuli gamocdileba miviRe. me velodebodi politsabWos Sexvedras, mec gaxldiT politsabWos wevri da Sesabamisad, gadawyvetilebas, romelic miiRo politsabWom, rom parlamentSi ar unda Sevides, vemxrobi da vuWer mxars am mimarTulebiT, Tumca Cemi specifikuri begraundidan gamomdinare da im warmomadgenlobiTi formidan gamomdinare, romelic maqvs umciresobebTan dakavSirebiT, gansakuTrebiT, eTnikur Tu religiur umciresobebTan dakavSirebiT, yvela is gamokiTxva, romelic bolo drois ganmavlobaSi vawarmoe, maZlevs imis safuZvels, rom damoukideblad viyo parlamentis wevri.
Sevecdebi, rom maqsimalurad warmovadgino is Temebi, romelic aqamde, samwuxarod, naklebad ganixileboda saqarTvelos parlamentSi, amitom miviRe swored es gadawyvetileba da xvalidan Sevudgebi saparlamento saqmianobas, – acxadebs `evropuli saqarTvelos~ ukve yofili wevri tariel nakaiZe.
`evropul saqarTvelos~ politikur pensiaze vadaze adre mouwia gasvla. es bunebrivic iyo, vinaidan am jgufebs Cvens sazogadoebaSi aranairi simpaTia ar aqvT, – ase afasebs parlamentis iuridiul sakiTxTa komitetis Tavmjdomare anri oxanaSvili `evropuli saqarTvelos~ politsabWos gadawyvetilebas, romlis mixedviT partia parlamentSi Sesvlas ar apirebs. misive TqmiT, `evropul saqarTvelos~ politikurad aranairi reitingi ar aqvs da sazogadoebis gancda maT mimarT pozitiuri ar aris.
– `evropuli saqarTvelo~ pensionerebs emuqreboda, sapensio saagentosTan dakavSirebiT hqondaT negatiuri damokidebuleba da dagrovebiT pensiaze Zalian winaaRmdegobrivi poziciebi, Tumca dadga dRe, rodesac maT politikur pensiaze vadaze adre mouwiaT gasvla. es bunebrivic iyo, vinaidan, am jgufebs aranairi simpaTia Cvens sazogadoebaSi ar aqvT. politikurad ar aqvT aranairi reitingi da sazogadoebis ganwyoba maT mimarT ar aris pozitiuri, – acxadebs anri oxanaSvili.
mmarTveli gundis kidev erTi warmomadgeneli Salva papuaSvili irwmuneba, rom `evropuli saqarTvelo~ rogorc partia aRar arsebobs, es aris erTi adamianis partia da is gza, romelic maT gaiares 21-kaciani fraqciidan – erTi adamianis partiamde.
– maT gadawyvites, rom aRar iyvnen demokratiuli procesebis monawile da gaemijnen demokratias. Sesabamisi iqneba Cveni damokidebulebac am partiis mimarT. vinc ar aRiarebs demokratias, maTTan ver gveqneba iseTi urTierToba, romelic aris demokratiuli procesis monawile. `evropuli saqarTvelo~ rogorc partia aRar arsebobs, es aris erTi adamianis partia da es aris is gza, romelic maT gaiares 21-kaciani fraqciidan erTi adamianis partiamde. es aris maTi politikuri ganaCeni, – acxadebs Salva papuaSvili.
rac Seexeba `evropuli saqarTvelos~ yofil wevr tariel nakaiZes, is parlamentSi damoukidebel deputatad gaagrZelebs muSaobas. igi sakanonmdeblo organodan brZolas umciresobebis uflebebisTvis apirebs.
– me mxars vuWer am gadawyvetilebas da partiis damokidebulebas. CemTvis `evropuli saqarTvelo~ aris Zalian mniSvnelovani da Rirebuli partia. Cemi gadawyvetileba ar iyo is, rom ar veTanxmebi partiul gadawyvetilebas, Cemi gadawyvetilebis miRebis safuZveli iyo is specifika, romelsac, am SemTxvevaSi, Cemi `begraundi~ warmoadgens da me warmovadgen. saqarTvelos parlamentSi, samwuxarod, wlebia ar aris parlamentis wevri, romelic modis iseTi umciresobidan, romelsac xSirad raRac problemebis winaSe uwevs brZola da me vfiqrob, Zalian bevr rames SevZen am mimarTulebiT saqarTvelos parlaments. erT-erTi mTavari RerZi umciresobebis uflebebisTvis brZola iqneba da gamovitan saaSkaraoze im tkivilebs, romelic, samwuxarod, ver gamodis xolme saaSkaraoze da Sevecdebi, rom am mimarTulebiT Zalian seriozuli wvlili Sevitano. swored aman mimaRebina es gadawyvetileba. rac Seexeba `evropuli saqarTvelos~ gadawyvetilebas, vfiqrob, rom es partiuli TvalsazrisiT aris swori gadawyvetileba. boikotma Zalian seriozuli Sedegi gamoiRo bevr sakiTxTan mimarTebiT, gansakuTrebiT arsebuli xelisuflebis mimarT damokidebulebaSi, rogorc saerTaSoriso arenaze, aseve Sida TvalsazrisiT. is principuloba, romelic partiebs aqvT, mniSvnelovania da `evropuli saqarTvelos~ es nabijic mniSvnelovania partiisTvis, romelic am mimarTulebiT da am logikiT gaagrZelebs Tavis paeqrobas politikur arenaze, – acxadebs tariel nakaiZe. misive TqmiT, SesaZloa, is romelime fraqcias SeuerTdes.
– am etapze var damoukidebeli deputati da viqnebi damoukidebeli deputati, magram Tu CavTvli saWirod, rom ufro met SesaZleblobas momcems romelime fraqciaSi yofna, Sesabamisad, am gadawyvetilebas imis mixedviT miviReb, ramdenad gamosadegi iqneba Cemi saparlamento saqmianobisTvis, – acxadebs tariel nakaiZe.
rogorc ukve aRvniSneT, vin Seva da vin ara parlamentSi, ukve didad aRar ainteresebs sazogadoebas, am etapze gacilebiT saintereso adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebi da dedaqalaqis merobis kandidatebia. iqneba Tu ara kvlavac `qarTuli ocnebis~ rCeuli moqmedi meri kaxa kalaZe, ucnobia. ucnobia isic, erTian kandidatze SeTanxmdeba Tu ara opozicia, magram ukve cnobilia, Tu vin iqneba `girCis~ merobis kandidati. 2021 wlis adgilobriv arCevnebSi Tbilisis merobis kandidatobas gegmavs partia `girCi – meti Tavisuflebis~ lideri zurab jafariZe.
– Tu SemoTavazeba iqneba, Tanaxma var. isedac vapireb, rom davdge (Tbilisis merobis kandidatad) da Tu erTiani kandidati iqneba, cxadia, ukeTesia. jerjerobiT, raime aseTi konsultacia ar yofila, ar mqonia konsultacia. CemTan partiaSi aseTi ganwyobaa, rom oqtombris saparlamento arCevnebze gayalbebis miuxedavad, Cven yvelaze patara danaxarjebiT TbilisSi me-3 adgilze gavediT. Sesabamisad, Cvens partias aqvs ambicia, rom TbilisSi hyavdes sakuTari kandidati. es aris axla, am wuTSi, mocemuloba. jer partiaSi miRebuli ar aris gadawyvetileba, amitom, calsaxad, vapireb Tu ara kandidatobas, ver getyviT, magram es ganixileba. Tu amas daemateba is, rom viqnebi erTiani kandidati, cxadia, es plusia. giJi unda viyo, rom amaze vTqva ara, es ar minda-meTqi. ratom ar unda mindodes?! – acxadebs zurab jafariZe.
am etapze verafers vityviT, rogori zafxuli iqneba saqarTveloSi, magram, win politikurad cxeli Semodgoma rom gvelodeba, udavoa.
