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2020 wlis saparlamento da aWaris avtonomiuri respublikis umaRlesi sabWos arCevnebidan TiTqmis Svidi Tvea gasuli. opozicia am xnis ganmavlobaSi irwmuneboda, rom xelisuflebam arCevnebi gaayalba da uars ambobda sakanonmdeblo organoSi Sesvlaze. bolo periodis politikur procesebs kidev erTxel rom gadavxedoT, aseTi suraTi iyo – opozicia boikotis reJimSi rCeboda da kanonSemoqmedebiT saqmianobaSi monawileobaze uars acxadebda, magram procesebSi saqarTvelos megobari da partniori qveynebi CaerTnen. SeTanxmebis miRwevas marTalia, dro dasWirda, Tumca dRes ukve erTpartiuli aRaraa parlamenti. dRis wesrigSi rCeba mxolod `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ sakanonmdeblo organoSi Sesvla-arSesvlis sakiTxi. am opoziciurma partiam daanonsebul masStabur saprotesto aqciaze uari Tqva da partiis lideri nika melia ramdenime TanagundelTan erTad ukrainis dedaqalaqSi Cavida. maTi es viziti, cxadia, qveynis eqsprezidentTan – mixeil saakaSvilTan SeTanxmebas emsaxureba. diax, partia ise moiqceva, rogorc mixeil saakaSvili gadawyvets da amas arc malaven.
paralelurad, dRis wesrigSi dadga aWaris umaRles sabWoSi 7 opozicioneris uflebamosilebis Sewyvetis sakiTxi, rasac moqmedi 15 deputatidan mxari arc erTma ar dauWira. miuxedavad amisa, dRis wesrigSi, SesaZloa, isev dadges opoziciis warmomadgenelTa uflebamosilebis Sewyvetis sakiTxi, Tumca amjerad ara maTi gancxadebis safuZvelze, aramed umaRlesi sabWos reglamentidan gamomdinare. ratom Tqva mmarTvelma gundma opoziciis deputatebis uflebamosilebis Sewyvetaze uari da ganapiroba Tu ara maTi es gadawyvetileba regionSi evrokavSiris elCis karl harcelis vizitma? am da sxva sakiTxebze `aWarasTan~ umaRlesi sabWos sakonstitucio, iuridiul da saproceduro sakiTxTa komitetis Tavmjdomare lado mgalobliSvilma isaubra.
– batono lado, ratom Tqva uari umravlesobam im deputatebisTvis uflebamosilebis Sewyvetaze, romlebic amas lamis arCevnebis Sedegebis gamocxadebis dRidanve iTxovdnen?
– nebismieri arCeuli deputati unda iyos iq, sadac amomrCevelma ganamwesa. samwuxarod, es adamianebi dRes damoukideblad ver iReben gadawyvetilebas, magram Cven ver davtovebdiT sakiTxs imis amara, Tu ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebs ramdenime dReSi `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ araformaluri mmarTveli mixeil saakaSvili. amitom pativi veciT gansxvavebuli azris mqone amomrCevlebs da kidev erTi Sansi miveciT maT rCeulebs. aseTi gadawyvetileba SesaZloa, CvenTvis sasiamovno ar iyo, magram demokratiisTvis da saxelmwifoebriobisTvis asea ukeTesi.
– Tqveni es gadawyvetileba ukavSirdeba Tu ara evrokavSiris elCis karl harcelis aWaraSi vizits?
– am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT baton karl harcelTan ar yofila saubari.
– nika melias mixeil saakaSvilTan audiencias rogor SeafasebT?
– is, rasac wlebis ganmavlobaSi `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ mmarTvel gunds abralebda, rom `qarTul ocnebaSi~ iyo araformaluri mmarTveloba, ar dadasturda, magram `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ formaluri mmarTveli rom Cavida araformalur mmarTvel mixeil saakaSvilTan, calsaxaa. maT, realurad, araformaluri lideri, saerTaSoriso Zebnili, damnaSave pirovneba marTavs.
– `girCma~, nika melias ukrainaSi yofnisas, mouwoda mixeil saakaSvils, rom sxva partiebTan megobroba iswavlos. . .
– samwuxarod, batoni saakaSvili avtoritarizmis niSnebiT gamorCeuli adamiania da misTvis miuRebelia nebismieri gansxvavebuli mosazreba. is cdilobs, iyos pirveli da ualternativo.
– ra molodini gaqvT, gaagrZelebs sakanonmdeblo organoebSi muSaobas `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~?
– darwmunebul var, isini ramdenime dReSi gaakeTeben gancxadebas sakanonmdeblo organoebSi Semosvlis Taobaze.
– 20 maisis umaRlesi sabWos plenarul sxdomaze araerTxel gaJRerda irakli CavleiSvilis saxel-gvari da iTqva, rom mis mimarT moraluri pasuxismgebloba unda igrZnon `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevrebma, radgan sazogadoebas kargad axsovs, rogori agresia wamovida Tavis droze irakli CavleiSvilis misamarTiT, roca man sakanonmdeblo organoSi Sesvlis gadawyvetileba miiRo.
– `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ araTanmimdevruli partiaa, is gadawyvetilebebs ar iRebs racionalurad, yovelTvis xelmZRvanelobs saakaSvilis instinqtebiT. maSinac saakaSvilis instinqti iyo, unda moexdinaT irakli CavleiSvilze Tavdasxma. am partiisgan yvelaferia mosalodneli, radgan, realurad, ar imarTeba igi ise, rogorc unda imarTebodes, partia imarTeba mixeil saakaSvilis xuSturebiT.
– sxdomaze aseve gaJRerda, rom medea vasaZe ar malavs sakanonmdeblo organoSi Sesvlis survils. . .
– diax, ar malavs da me mis pozicias dadebiTad vafaseb, radgan qalbatoni medea ar TvalTmaqcobs, mas aqvs survili umaRles sabWoSi Semosvlis, magram fiqrobs im partiis mimarT, romlis siiTac moxvda sakanonm-deblo organoSi, rom moraluri pasuxismgebloba aqvs mis winaSe.
– im SemTxvevaSi, Tu `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ siiT gasulebi sakanonmdeblo organoSi Semovlen, moralur pasuxismgeblobas irakli CavleiSvilis winaSe igrZnoben?
– ar minda personalurad gadavide maTi xasiaTis ganxilvaze, magram `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~, rogorc organizacias, namdvilad ar gaaCnia arc morali da arc pasuxismgebloba. didi albaTobiT, ramdenime dReSi sakanonmdeblo organoSi Semovlen da Zalian mainteresebs, rogor Sexedaven irakli CavleiSvils TvalebSi.
– batono lado, marTalia, opoziciis warmomadgenlebs uari uTxariT uflebamosilebis Sewyvetaze, magram ras iTvaliswinebs umaRlesi sabWos reglamenti, romelic araerTxel axseneT sesiaze?
– umaRlesi sabWos reglamentis Tanaxmad, Tu sesiis periodSi, magaliTad, sagazafxulo sesia daiwyo martSi da sruldeba ivnisSi, naxevarze met sxdomas ar daeswreba piri arasapatio mizeziT, ufleba gvaqvs, mas uflebamosileba SevuwyvitoT. es sakiTxi SesaZloa, dRis wesrigSi dadges ivnisis bolos, Tu isini ar Semovlen umaRles sabWoSi.
– irakli CavleiSvilma ganacxada, rom xelisufleba Wirveuli bavSviviT exveweba opozicias.
– man Tavisi gadasaxedidan gaakeTa aseTi gancxadeba, magram Cven saxelmwifoebrivi gadawyvetileba miviReT, sxvanairad ar SegveZlo.
