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`leqsebi Cemi Svilebia~ – ase ambobs poeti jaba gorgilaZe, gulwrfeli, marTali, optimisti, kargi baTumeli, romelic axla Tavis samyaroSi gvamogzaurebs.
– rogori xasiaTis adamianad miiCnevT Tavs, vin aris jaba gorgilaZe?
– vcdilob, yovelTvis gulaxdili viyo, ase ufro advilia cxovreba! erTi ubralo adamiani var, davibade xuloSi, sxalTis xeobaSi 1989 wlis 19 aprils, amJamad dakavebuli var mcire biznesiT, myavs meuRle da sami wlis Svili, ese igi var mdidari da bednieri, ojaxze Zvirfasi araferia! cvalebadi xasiaTi maqvs. . . sazogadoebisTvis, megobrebisTvis mxiaruli, pozitiuri var, Tumca bevr sevdas atarebs Cemi arcTu ise didi guli, fizikurad var mZime, guli ki patara maqvs.
– feisis profilSi sakuTar Tavs ase waradgenT – glexi. . . Tqven xom poeti xarT. . . es ironiad xom ar unda aRviqvaT imaT mimarT, regaliebiT rom gvawoneben Tavs?
– ubralod, glexi var, micxovria sofelSi, me-10, me-11 klasi viswavle sxalTaSi, bebia-babuasTan vcxovrobdi, es ori weli aris Cems cxovrebaSi yvelaze kargi periodi. mixaria da meamayeba, rom es nabiji gadavdgi, rac Seexeba poets, cota xmamaRali naTqvamia, ufro leqsmweri var.
– rogorc viciT, xarT sxvadasxva literaturuli jgufis wevri, Tavadac gaqvT jgufi Seqmnili onlainsivrceSi. . . rogor aisaxeba es Tqvens pirovnul ganviTarebaze, ra perspeqtivebia?
– onlainsivrce aris urTierTobis SesaZlebloba, mogexsenebaT, pandemiaa, cxovreba ise Seicvala, yvela sfero onlainservisebze gadavida. marTalia, kargia RonisZiebebis gakeTeba cocxlad, mkiTxvelTan uSualod urTierTobiT, Tumca dRes sxvagvari realobaa da Segueba gviwevs. jgufebis arseboba kargi aris SemoqmedisTvis, xdeba sxvadasxva avtorebis warmoCena, gacnoba, damegobreba, es xels Seuwyobs avtorebs ganviTarebaSi! Cems Semoqmedebas, ZiriTadad, Cemi feisbuqis kedelze vaqveyneb, aseve, Cems jgufSi da pirad gverdze.
– literaturul konkursebze ra azris xarT da romel maTganSi monawileobas gamoarCevdiT?
– zogadad, poezia sporti ar aris, rom avtorebi Seejibron erTmaneTs, Tumca motivia, aseve imis SesaZlebloba, rom finansuri sargebeli naxos avtorma. ukeTesia festivalebi, Tumca amas dafinanseba sWirdeba, saxelmwifos aqtiuroba mniSvnelovania, radgan jansaRi da ganaTlebuli Taoba ganviTarebul da Zlier saqarTvelos niSnavs!
– roca Tqveni pirveli wignis prezentacia gaimarTa da monawileTa gamosvlebs usmendiT. . .
– bednieri viyavi, es iseTive grZnobaa, rogoric Svilis dabadebis molocvisas gipyrobs. leqsebi Cemi Svilebia, leqsis Seqmnis procesi is droa, roca Tavs Zalian kargad vgrZnob, es emociebi ki kvebavs Cems suls!
– amboben, rom kargi meojaxe xarT – mosiyvarule, mzrunveli mama. . .
– mixaria Tu ase amboben. vcdilob, Svili bednieri iyos, yvelafers gavakeTeb amisTvis, mamoba yvelaze magari wodebaa, madloba ufals amisTvis. ojaxi sinaTlea, Zalaa, mizania, motivia imisa, rom Rirs cxovreba. bednieri kaci var, maTiT vxarob. Tu ojaxi ar giyvars, maSin ver geyvareba megobari, mezobeli, samSoblo!
– Tavs bunebaSi, sofelSi kargad grZnobT da rogorc Cans, buneba xSirad aris Tqveni STagonebis wyaro, rogoria Tqveni sofeli?
– buneba uflis saCuqaria, miyvars masTan urTierToba. is cocxalia, movla da gafrTxileba sWirdeba. ra Tqma unda, STagonebis wyaroa, saqarTvelo mdidaria bunebiT! Cemi sofeli mdebareobs xuloSi, sxalTis xeobaSi, sadac pirvelad Semovida qristianoba, ulamazesia. leqsidan nawyvets gTavazobT, ase ukeTesad gamovxatav, Tu rogoria Cemi sofeli.
sxalTa
ra mindoda, ra maqvs neta sawuwuno? !
soflis suni sxeuls laqad damCnevia,
gulmarTalo, neni, rogor dagiwuno?
sul yvelafers Seni mzera mirCevnia.
Rame, ase orsuli da mgrZnobiare,
sofels gulSi erTgulebiT
Cawvdomia,
me, fiqrebSi aremare moviare,
mamlis yivils, mzis amosvlas
ra sjobia?
sxalTis venaxs, sxalTis taZars
iarebi
uxorcdeba, mgoni sulac ganikurna,
mixaria, bednieri viarebi,
Rele-Rurdan, yani bolos.
mere vzrunav,
rom sxalTeli, sxalTis Svili,
gorgilaZe,
vamayobde am miwaze davibade…
– axlandeli da momavali baTumi Tqvens Tvalsawierze. . .
– baTumi siyvarulis qalaqia. axlandeli baTumi mklavs. roca vxedav rogor Caabetones qalaqi, da rogor uWirs sunTqva, rTulia Tavs kargad grZnobde. miyvars baTumelebi, Tbilebi da stumarTmoyvareni arian.
baTums
ca, iseTia – feradi, msuye.
baTums rom Svenis da ekadreba.
vumzer peizaJs, yovelTvis msurs me,
es silamaze damrCes kadrebad.
wvima afxizlebs qalaqis quCebs,
zRva efereba sanapiroebs,
mzis sxivi usmens Rrublebis
CurCuls.
da emaleba sanam ipoves.
– Zalian komunikabeluri xarT da albaT, didi samegobro wrec gaqvT. . . vin arian Tqveni megobrebi?
– megobroba Zalaa imisa, rom ufro myarad idge rogorc sulierad, aseve fizikurad. Cemi megobrebi maZliereben, vcdilob, axlos viyo TiToeulTan, miyvars adamianebi! Cemi megobrebi ubralo adamianebi arian, sxvagvarad Cveni megobroba ar Sedgeboda!
– dagvisaxeleT TqvenTvis yvelaze gamorCeuli wignebi, ganmeorebiT rom kiTxulobT da swavlobT. . .
– `daTa TuTaSxia~ – es romani aris Sedevri, sadac naTlad Cans adamianis naTeli da bneli mxareebi, Ralati da erTguleba. . . rogor unda cxovrobdes adamiani, ra RirebulebebiT!
– pandemia – samyaro gvafrTxilebs? TqvenSi ra Secvala da gadaafasa pandemiam?
– aseT civ droSi kidev ufro gaaciva urTierTobebi, CemTvis Zalian mZimea da rTuli, magram vuZleb! ufro da ufro damarwmuna rom janmrTelobaze da adamianur urTierTobebze Zvirfasi araferia!
– rogor warmogidgeniaT kacobriobis momavali, xelovnebis sferos cifruli revolucia ras uqadis?
– ganviTareba es bunebrivi procesia, viTardeba teqnologia, adamianebi eZeben siaxles, midian win, es kargia, ubralod, yvela wingadadgmuli nabiji, inovacia, unda gamoviyenoT sasikeTod da ara – adamianebis sawinaaRmdegod.
– qarTvelebma ra tradicia unda SevinarCunoT da ra ukuvagdoT?
– saqarTvelo tradiciebiT mdidari qveyanaa. aqamde movediT rwmeniT, kulturiT, xelovnebiT. miuxedavad mtrebisa, Cven mainc SevZeliT, SegvenarCunebina is Rirebulebebi, riTac varT amayni, Zlierni, samagaliToni, vcdilob, yovelive, rac miviRe winaprebisgan, gadavce Cems Svils, izrdeba Taobebi, marTalia, dro cvlis yvelafers, Tumca is ZiriTadi faseulobebi, rac aris qarTvelSi, yovelTvis iqneba, ar daikargeba, radgan sisxls ver Seucvli adamians, qarTuli sisxli ki sxvagvarad Cqefs, kvebavs guls, gonebas, ase movediT aqamde!
– ucxoplaneteli rom iyoT, ras etyodi dedamiwelebs?
– giyvardeT erTmaneTi, gaufrTxildiT dedamiwas, is Zvirfasia, ulamazesia, SeiyvareT buneba SviliviT!
– sityva, romelsac yvelaze xSirad warmoTqvam axla da ityvi momavalSi.
– sityvas didi Zala aqvs, adamianebi ar vaqcevT yuradRebas, Tumca sityvam SeiZleba wagaqcios, an piriqiT, fexze wamogayenos, amitom xSirad vuTxraT adamianebma erTmaneTs – miyvarxar, radgan siyvarulia Tavad ufali! didi madloba yuradRebisTvis, minda warmateba vusurvo gazeT `aWaras~ TiToeul TanamSromels!