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gagacnobT baTumel, warmatebul da niWier gogonas, Turquli enisa da literaturis filologs, aRmosavluri enebis specialistsa da enaTmcodne nazi abaSiZes.
nazi ozurgeTSi daibada, pirveli klasi iq daamTavra. mamis gardacvalebis Semdeg dedasTan erTad baTumSi Camovida. rogorc Tavad gviyveba, finansurad Zalian gauWirdaT da dedas misi bavSvTa saxlSi datoveba mouwia. Tvlis, rom dRes Tu rames miaRwia da profesiulad warmatebulia, misi iq cxovrebis da im adamianebis gverdSi dgomis damsaxurebaa, vinc daxmarebis xeli gauwoda. nazim baTumis #№20 sajaro skola daamTavra, umaRlesi ganaTleba ki stambolSi – marmaras saxelmwifo universitetSi miiRo. miuxedavad imisa, rom SeeZlo TurqeTSi darCeniliyo, kariera aewyo da uzrunveli cxovreba hqonoda, mainc saqarTvelos daubrunda da Tavis codnas samSoblos axmars.
– nazi, rodis mixvdiT, rom enebis aTvisebis niWi gqondaT?
– bavSvTa saxlSi, sadac vizrdebodi, Zalian bevri rusi bavSvi swavlobda. maTTan yoveldRiuri Sexeba mqonda da mivxvdi, rom advilad vswavlobdi ucxo enas. dedaCems Zalian undoda, rom biZaCemTan, ruseTSi gavegzavne, magram vicodi, rom Zalian civi qveyana iyo da ar davTanxmdi.
– ra profesia airCieT da ratom?
– mamaCemis Zalian didi survili iyo, vyofiliyavi eqimi da samedicinoze meswavla. dedaCemsac Zalian undoda es. bavSvTa saavadmyofoSi iyo kursebi, sadac siaruli daviwye. Zalian ar momwonda es sfero. sisxli, Wra, kerva. . . meSinoda iqaurobis. . . Semdeg ise moxda, rom me da Cemma megobarma Turquli enis Seswavla gadavwyviteT da ufaso kursebze CavewereT. me-11 klasSi viyavi maSin. Zalian ar mindoda samedicino sfero, Tumca dedaCemsac guls ver vtkendi da iqac davdiodi. ise kargad moverge Turquls, rom samedicino kursebs Tavi davanebe. sakonsulos Turquli enis Semswavlel kursebze Cumad davdiodi, ise, rom dedas ar gaego (icinis), Tumca bolos gamovutydi, vuTxari, rom ukve me-2 kursze viyavi, Tu kargad viswavlidi, SemeZlo 3 wlis sertifikati erTad ameRo da TurqeTSic dafinansebiT Camebarebina. Cems leqtors, baton abdul hamids da maSindel konsuls, baton erjans Zalian didi wvlili miuZRviT Cems warmatebaSi. dRes Tu rames mivaRwie, swored maTi damsaxurebaa, radgan maT gamikvales gza universitetamde. mokled, 100%-iani dafinansebiT Cavabare ankaraSi, gaazis universitetSi, sadac mxolod erTi weli swavlob. Tu erT wels warmatebiT daxurav, granti ginarCundeba da ukve umaRles saswavlebelSi bakalavriatze abareb. asec moxda da erTwliani muxlCauxreli swavlis Semdeg Cavabare stambolis marmaras saxelmwifo universitetSi Turquli filologiis fakultetze. maxsovs, zafxuli iyo da iseTi gaxarebuli viyavi, Custebs haerSi visrodi (icinis).
– ar gagiWirdaT sxva religiis mqone qveyanaSi cxovreba?
– 10 wlis win TurqeTi cota sxva iyo. yvela imas fiqrobda, TurqeTSi midis, araferi daemarToso. . . bunebrivia, SiSiT iyvnen ganwyobili. arc imis saSualeba mqonda, kerZo saxlSi mecxovra, universitetis saerTo sacxovrebelSi vcxovrobdiT, erT oTaxSi – 6 suli. kvebac Sedioda, Tumca iyo Zalian rTuli reJimi Tavisi mkacri kanonebiT. gamocdis dros aravin arafers gapatiebda, cremlebadac rom daRvriliyavi. acnobiereb, rom rac unda bevri megobari gyavdes, gakveTilebTan, leqciebTan, davalebebTan, leqtorebTan mimarTebaSi sruliad marto xar da am yvelafris gadalaxva Zalian Znelia. bevri muSaoba gWirdeba, bevr rameze uaris Tqma giwevs, bevri emociis daTmoba gmarTebs. miuxedavad yvelafrisa, kargi studentoba mqonda. vfiqrob, iseT did gamocdilebas, rac iq miviRe, saqarTveloSi ver miviRebdi.
– ramdeni damwerloba iciT, romelia yvelaze rTuli da ra Taviseburebebi gaaCnia?
– osmaluri, sparsuli, xorezmuli, qoqTurquli lursmuli, uiRuruli, uzbekuri, TaTruli, yazaxuri, yirgizuli, yaraxanluri, Zveli anatoliuri Turquli, Zveli Turquli, monRoluri da azerbaijanuli. es ukanaskneli universitetSi ar miswavlia, im danarCeni enebis sinTezis xarjze CemiT viswavle, radgan Zalian bevri sityva erTi da igivea da salaparakod sakmarisia. aseve vici Tanamedrove da Zveli Turquli dialeqtebi, eseni, ase vTqvaT, mkvdari dialeqtebia, aqvs damwerloba, anbani, nawarmoebebi, magram am enebze ar saubroben, isini mxolod qvazea SemorCenili. gamovyofdi osmalur enas, swored am eniT daviwyeT swavla. sanam aTaTurqi prezidenti gaxdeboda, yvelaferi osmalurad iyo dawerili. osmaluri warmodgens osmaleTis imperiaSi Seqmnil xelovnur enas Turquli enis safuZvelze, sparsuli da arabuli leqsikisa da sintaqsis farTo gamoyenebiT. es iyo sasaxlisa da biurokratiis, kulturis moRvaweTa ena im ZiriTadi nawilisaTvis, romelic xalxur Turqulze saubrobda. Sesabamisad, Turquli ena Tu ar ici, ver amoikiTxav, ra weria. mokled, Zalian rTuli enaa, kidev kargi, aTaTurqma laTinuri damwerloba Semoitana (icinis).
– rogor daZlieT amdeni enis barieri?
– daviwyeb iqidan, rom Zalian rTulia, roca xar qristiani da swavlob am fakultetze. maSin 18 wlis viyavi da warmodgenac ar mqonda, rom amdeni ena Sedioda am fakultetSi. deda aWareli muslimia, Tumca Cems saxlSi iyo bibliac da yuranic, am fakultetze ki, Tu yurani ar ici, Zalian gagiWirdeba swavla. kurselebic ironiiT miyurebdnen – qristiani xar da swavlas ver SeZlebo. universiteti saerTaSoriso iyo da, bunebrivia, iq studentebi sxvadasxva qveynidan iyvnen. pirobiTad, maria Tu germanelia da swavlobs, me – qarTveli ratom ver SevZleb swavlas-meTqi?! sul mesmoda saubrebi – nazi qristiania da amitom ar gamosdis osmaluri kargado. yvela aseTi dialogis Semdeg ormagad mizandasaxuli vxdebodi da stimuli meZleoda, rom yvelafers SevZlebdi da kargad viswavlidi. ar SemiZlia ar aRvniSno Cemi afxazi qarTuli enis maswavleblis liana axalaias Rvawli. swored misi damsaxurebaa, rom vicodi, rogor damewera Tema, mqonda wakiTxuli klasgareSe literatura, romelic universitetSi Zalian gamomadga. saocari pirovneba iyo! ra Tqma unda, gamiWirda amdeni enis erTad aTviseba. metic, yvela finalur gamocdaze vambobdi – saqarTveloSi mivdivar! gadavitan sabuTebs da waval-meTqi. . . maxsovs, kibeebze ramdenjer mitiria – ar SemiZlia amdeni enis aTviseba-meTqi. gamocdaze xelnawer nawarmoebebs gvaZlevdnen. warmoidgineT, viRac poetma araamqveyniuri osmaluri eniT dawera poema, romelic jer unda amoikiTxo, Targmno, axsna, Tu ra uweria da ratom. am enebis swavla Tavad Turqebsac uWirT, me ki mboWavda, Zalian meZneleboda.
– rogor ipoveT TqvenSi am yovelives gasamklavebeli Zala?
– Zala iyo dedaCemi da im adamianebis gverdSi dgoma, romlebic saqarTveloSi melodnen. Cemi imedi hqondaT da ver gavawbilebdi. Cemi saqmro (maSin Seyvarebulebi viyaviT), miuxedavad imisa, rom Zalian eZneleboda Cemi sxva qveyanaSi gaSveba, Cems mdgomareobaSi Sevida da amdeni weli meloda. es Zalian dasafasebelia da misi madlieri var dRemde. imis molodinic mqonda, rom SeiZleba ver gavmklavebodi ucxo qveyanaSi swavlas da ukan davbrunebuliyavi. Zalian bevri, vinc CemTan erTad Caabara, dabrunda, bevric gaTxovda da swavla Sewyvita. vfiqrob, swori nabiji gadavdgi, radgan dRes Cems yvelaze sayvarel profesias vflob da am wlebs tyuilad ar Cauvlia.
– swavlis garda muSaobdiT kidec?
– diax. iq bevri qarTveli gavicani, romlebic sxvadasxva universitSi swavlobdnen. davmegobrdiT, Zalian vexmarebodiT erTmaneTs. sxvadasxva saerTaSoriso gamofena tardeboda da, sxvaTa Soris, Zalian gamomadga rusuli ena. Camodiodnen sxvadasxva qveynidan da kompaniebi enebis mcodne kuratorebs eZebdnen. anazRaureba dRiuri iyo da am gamofenebis saSualebiT gayidvebis sferoc, ase vTqvaT, `Semomeswavla~ (icinis). aseve gavicani Zalian bevri iqauri qarTveli. iyo qarTuli kulturis centrebi, sadac qarTuli Rvinis da kerZebis degustacia imarTeboda. ra Tqma unda, qarTveli studentebic vmonawileobdiT da Cvens qveyanas warmovadgendiT. erTxel erT-erTi cnobili klinikis eqimma damireka – Turquli da qarTuli enebis mcodne sWirdebodaT. ra Tqma unda, mivedi da daxmarebis xeli gavuwode (verc ki vifiqrebdi, rom students amisTvis vinme rames gadamixdida). moxda ise, rom nel-nela Tavis qalis, kardiologiuri Tu simsivnuri daavadebebis terminebi Seviswavle da oficialuri xelfasi daminiSnes. droTa ganmavlobaSi imdenad gaverkvie samedicino sferoSi, ukve sxvadasxva klinikaSi qarTveli pacientebis Tarjimani viyavi. yvelam kargad icis, rogor gulianad vemsaxurebodi maT. Zalian rTuli, simsivnuri daavadebebis mqone pacientebi Camodiodnen samkurnalod. vxumrobdi kidec dedaCemTan, mainc momiwia samedicino sferoSi muSaoba, magram Tarjimnis ampluaSi-meTqi.
– amJamad ras saqmianobT?
– var notariulad damowmebuli Tarjimani, maqvs Cemi patara saTarjimno biuroc, romelic kovidis dros Sevqmeni da distanciurad vmuSaobT. Sevqmeni Turquli gakveTilebis gverdic da moswavleebis miReba daviwye. paralelurad, bevr ucxoel students qarTuls vaswavli. maTi warmateba Zalian maxarebs da gulSi vfiqrob – nazi, Sen SeZeli! TbilisSi, saxelmwifo struqturebSi sinqronul Targmanze vmuSaob, aseve iusticiis saxlsa da sasamarTloSi kerZo Tarjimani var. azerbaijaneli iqneba, Turqi, yirgizi Tu uzbeki, SemiZlia, movemsaxuro. Zalian Wirs sufTa Turqulis mcodne kadris naxva, radgan kanons roca exeba saqme, yvela Tavs ikavebs.
– ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– Zalian minda, universitetSi vaswavlo da leqtori gavxde, amisTvis magistratura da doqtorantura unda gaviaro. albaT, sagranto programiT rom Cavabare da erovnul gamocdebze ar gavsulvar, es sistema CemTvis rTuli iqneba, Tumca aucileblad unda movemzado, radgan Cemi Tavi did auditoriaSi warmomidgenia – rom erTxelac SevaReb universitetis kars da Cavatareb Turquli enis leqcias. Cemi yvela moswavle sufTa TurquliT isaubrebs da yvela Tavis karieraSi warmatebuli iqneba. mjera, es gardauvalia!
