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TiTqmis kvira gavida, rac `qarTulma ocnebam~ uari Tqva miSelis dokumentis im punqtze, romelic vadamdeli arCevnebis daniSvnas avaldebulebda 43%-iani barieris gadaulaxaobis SemTxvevaSi
es nabiji imdenad moulodneli aRmoCnda opoziciisTvis, romelic mieCvia mmarTveli gundis mier daTmobebze wasvlas, rom aqa-iq gaJRerebuli ramdenime gancxadebis Semdeg, saerTod Sewyvita amaze laparaki, Tumca es ufro qariSxlis win Camovardnil siCumes hgavs. faqtia, rom opoziciaSi gamalebuli konsultaciebi mimdinareobs, romelic, savaraudod, aseve moulodneli, axali SedegiT dasruldeba.
am situaciaze eqsperti xaTuna lagaziZe wers: `dRes opozicia iseTi Wreli da daqsaqsulia, rogoric ramdenime Tvis win, parlamentSi Sesvlamdec ar yofila. maSin erTgvar saxes mainc inarCunebda, dRes ki opozicia sam kategoriad aris dayofili. pirveli – es aris e.w. leRvis foToli, romelic didi siamovnebiT irgebs `qarTuli ocnebis~ advokatis rols da amis arc erideba; meore nawili aSkarad ar gamoxatavs `qarTuli ocnebis~ mxardaWeras, magram kargad xvdeba, rom es misTvis bolo parlamentia da amitom yvelanairad ebRauWeba sadeputato skams; mesame nawili xelisuflebis realuri opoziciaa, Tumca es viTareba Zalian arTulebs opoziciaSi saerTo xedvis da strategiis Camoyalibebas. ra Tqma unda, ar vgulisxmob, rom yvelgan merobis erTiani kandidatebi unda wamoayenon, magram maT sWirdebaT saerTo generaluri xazi, amisTvis brZola da amomrCevlis maqsimalurad motivireba, es xazi ki gadis imaze, rom `qarTulma ocnebam~ verafriT aiRos 43%. rogorc ki amas ver SeZlebs, misi daSla daiwyeba~.
ras fiqroben amaze umaRlesi sabWos deputatebi, amis gasarkvevad maTTan interviuebs SemogTavazebT.
ilia verZaZe, deputati, `qarTuli ocneba~:
– saqarTveloSi aSS-is yofili elCi uiliam kortni Tvlis, rom mudmivad xarvezebiT Catarebulma arCevnebma kidev ufro Searyia saqarTvelos demokratia, ixsenebs enm-is analogiur situacias da amaSi avtoritarizmis safrTxes xedavs.
– vfiqrob, meqanikuri Sedarebebi zusti daskvnis saSualebas ar iZleva. aq mniSvnelovania qmedebebis analizi da mxolod amis safuZvelze – daskvnebis gakeTeba, am kuTxiT ki sxvaoba aSkaraa. is reformebi, qmedebebi da, zogadad, gamowvevebze reagirebebi, romelsac axorcielebs `qarTuli ocneba~, radikalurad gansxvavdeba `nacmoZraobis~ qmedebebisgan da, praqtikulad, gamoricxavs diqtaturis SesaZleblobas. Cveni mizanic swored is aris, rom demokratiuli institutebis gaZlierebis gziT am qveyanaSi SeuZlebeli gavxadoT diqtatura. Cven vxedavdiT `nacmoZraobas~ xelisuflebaSi, vxedavT maT opoziciaSi da, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom orive poziciaze es aris problema qveynis demokratiuli gziT ganviTarebisTvis – maTi faseulobaTa sistema, mudmivad siyalbiTa da feikniusebiT yalbi sazogadoebrivi azris Seqmnis mcdeloba, saqarTvelos mosaxleobis winaaRmdeg Ria qmedebebi rogorc qveyanaSi, aseve saerTaSoriso sivrceSi, dezinformaciisa da mosaxleobis dezorientaciis gziT sakuTari interesebis gatarebis mudmivi gaumarTlebeli mcdelobebi, qveynis mudmivad destabilizaciis pirobebSi yofnisTvis zrunva da ase Semdeg.
– ratom gadawyvita `ocnebam~ miSelis dokumentiT gaTvaliswinebul (43%-ian barierTan dakavSirebiT) SeTanxmebaze uaris Tqma – SeSinda, rom ver gadalaxavda bariers da vadamdeli arCevnebis daniSvna mouwevda?
– es ar iyo mxolod 43%-ian barierTan dakavSirebuli SeTanxmeba. masSi gawerili TiTqmis yvela reforma Tu cvlileba ukve ganxorcielebulia xelisuflebis mier. ufro metic, es reformebi manamdec xorcieldeboda da kvlavac gagrZeldeba, radgan maTi ZiriTadi nawili isedac aris xelisuflebis mxridan gacxadebuli, rogorc Cveni ZiriTadi prioritetebi. rac Seexeba vadamdel arCevnebs, aq partiis Tavmjdomarem ganmarta, rom is aranair bmaSi ar iqneba adgilobriv arCevnebze miRebul procentebTan da fuWia nebismieri is molodini, rom am mizeziT moTxovnadi gaxdeba romelime mcire partiis aqtivoba da, Sesabamisad, dafinansdeba kezeraSvil-saakaSvilis mier Tavis droze saqarTveloSi moparuli fuliT maTi saarCevno kampania.
– `ocneba~ Tvlis, rom 43-s ki ara, 55%-sac ki iolad aiRebs. Tu asea, ratom daixies ukan?
– diax, Cven ar gvaqvs 43 procentis problema. aq sakiTxi sxvagvaradaa. gaxsovT, rogor aitaca es sakiTxi `nacmoZraobis~ liderma. warmoidgineT, nebismier evropul qveyanaSi, Tu partia arCevnebSi gadis pirvel adgilze 30-35-40-45 procentiT, aravis uCndeba eWvic ki imasTan dakavSirebiT, rom mosaxleobis ndoba mTavrobis Camoyalibebisa da qveynis marTvisTvis swored am partias aqvs. ra Tqma unda, am qveynis kanonmdeblobidan gamomdinare, rig SemTxvevaSi am partias dasWirdeba koaliciis Seqmna, rig SemTxvevaSi – ara. aq ki Seecadnen, rom es raRac TavisTvis sasargeblo gadawyvetilebad eqciaT da Tan zogierT politikur moTamaSes dafinansebis miRebis imedi gauCnda am funqciis Sesasruleblad, anu Cven 43 procentTan dasaaxloveblad. am rolze ki yvelaze kargad moRalateobrivi gziT Seqmnili partia acxadebs pretenzias.
– saerTaSoriso Sefasebebi araerTgvarovania. aSS gabrazebulia, Sarl miSeli ki did aRelvebas ar gamoxatavs. rogor axsniT maT am urTierTsawinaaRmdego ganwyobebs?
– CvenTvis seriozuli problemaa im dezinformaciuli nakadis SeCereba, romelic radikaluri opoziciisgan modis. warmoidgineT, rom politikuri Zala, romelmac evropisken nabijic ver gadadga xelisuflebaSi yofnis dros – ruseTs Caabara saqarTvelos teritoriebis 20%, safrTxis qveS daayena `ji-es-pi-plusis~ sakiTxi (savaWro preferenciebi), rac erTaderTi bonusi iyo saqarTvelosTvis gacemuli civilizebuli samyaros mier da misi CamorTmevis sakiTxi swored arademokratiuli procesebis gamo dadga, prorusobas abralebs xelisuflebas, romelmac asocirebis SeTanxmebas moawera xeli evrokavSirTan, miiRo vizaliberalizacia sakuTari moqalaqeebisTvis, dauaxlovda natos standartebs, miiRo madloba saerTaSoriso misiaSi monawileobisTvis da sxva. es cinizmia da sxva araferi. vfiqrob, TandaTan, Cveni dasavleli partniorebi sworad Seafaseben yvelafers, iseve, rogorc es arCevnebis modelirebuli gayalbebis SemTxvevaSi moxda.
– rogor moiqceva opozicia – kvlav boikots gamoacxadebs Tu darCeba sakanonmdeblo organoebSi?
– namdvilad ver getyviT, ras izams. me, piradad, destruqciis garda, araferi racionaluri ar minaxavs maT qmedebaSi. vnaxoT, rogor gaagrZeleben. vfiqrob, xalxic xvdeba maT realur miznebs da amdenad, radikaluri opoziciis tyuilis ufro naklebad sjera.
– axla rom moaweros enm-am xeli SeTanxmebas, `qarTuli ocneba~ aRadgens mas?
– ara mgonia, ase moxdes, radgan es araseriozuli nabiji iqneba da, Cemi azriT, arc Cven unda miviRoT monawileoba am araseriozul TamaSSi. rogorc vTqvi, maTi qmedebebi da, Sesabamisad, azrebi mudmivad destruqciisken aris mimarTuli. ZiriTadad, SeTanxmebaSi gawerili sakiTxebi, vimeoreb, Cven mier isedac gacxadebuli samoqmedo gegmis nawili iyo da es maTac kargad ician.
– imasac amboben, saqarTvelos dasavleTis sanqciebi emuqrebao. . .
– es morigi tyuili kidev saidan moigones? win gvelodeba arCevnebi da, Sesabamisad, saqarTvelos mosaxleobis azri da gadawyvetileba aris mTavari. mjera, qarTveli xalxi kvlav dauWers mxars qveynis stabilur ganviTarebas, mSvidobas da demokratiul, dasavlur kurss, romlis Sedegadac 2024 wels gavakeTebT ganacxads evrokavSiris wevrobaze da amas xels veranairi feikniusi da modelirebuli speqtaklebi ver SeuSlis.
medea vasaZe, deputati, gaerTianebuli opoziciis wevri partiidan `emsaxure saqarTvelos~:
– ra STabeWdileba moaxdina `ocnebis~ mier miSelis xelSekrulebis im punqtze uaris Tqmam, romelzec gaerTianebuli opozicia ZiriTad imedebs amyarebda?
– marTlac moulodneli iyo. es nabiji mxolod imiT aixsneba, rom maT mierve Catarebulma Sida kvlevebma cxadyo – verafriT gadalaxavdnen im ybadaRebul 43%-ian bariers TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebSi. darwmunebuli var, swored SiSma akadrebina `qarTul ocnebas~ am arapopularuli, maTi imijis Semlaxveli nabijis gadadgma. Tanac yvelaferi es daabrales yvelaze did opoziciur partias – `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~, TiTqos axla gaaxsendaT, rom am ukanasknelma xeli ar moawera miSelis dokuments. Tavidanve rom eTqvaT uari, aseTi reaqcia aravis eqneboda, axla ki, amdeni xnis gasvlis Semdeg, SeTanxmebis mTavari punqtis uaryofa TavisTavad gvarwmunebs, rom SeeSindaT xelisuflebis dakargvis, sxva araferi.
– principSi, Tuki enm-am ar moawera xeli, `ocnebas~ ratom unda Seesrulebina es SeTanxmeba? Tanac, rogorc acxadeben, sxva punqtebi Seasrules?
– ai, swored amas vambob, es xom adrec icodnen. axla gaaxsendaT, `cal karSi rom uwevT TamaSi~? TiTidan gamowovil mizezs ufro hgavs, vidre qveynis mmarTveli gundis gadawyvetilebas. ra Seasrules? maT am SeTanxmebis arc erTi punqti ar SeusrulebiaT.
– Tu SeiZleba, dagvikonkreteT.
– aviRoT Tundac saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos mosamarTleTa mudmivad daniSvna, romelic SeTanxmebis mixedviT unda gadaedoT sasamarTlo reformamde. e.w. gadagdeba, sxva sityva ver movZebne, `qarTuli ocnebisTvis~ axali ar aris. gaxsovT albaT, rom prezidentma da, zogadad, xelisuflebam ar Seasrula Tavis droze biZina ivaniSvilis piroba pirdapirproporciul arCevnebze gadasvlasTan dakavSirebiT. amis Sesaxeb ara mxolod qarTul mosaxleobasTan laparakobdnen, dasavleTTanac ki apiarebdnen da iqac akeTebdnen gancxadebebs. yvelam viciT, rogor gadaTqves, ukan waiRes sityva da yvelaferi Sidapartiul uTanxmoebebs daabrales. vin daijerebs, rom amboxeba mouwyves Tavisive maJoritarebma, romlebic manamde amtkicebdnen, Zalian gvixaria proporciuli sistemis danergva, romelic demokratiis xarisxs aamaRlebs qveyanaSio. isic sakiTxavia, rogor moxvdnen es `amboxebuli deputatebi~ Semdegi mowvevis parlamentSi, rodesac amxela procesis CaSlaSi edebodaT brali. aqve SegaxsenebT, rom amboxebas ki ara, gansxvavebul azrsac aravis patioben `qarTul ocnebaSi~ – pirdapir ricxaven partiidan. simarTle giTxraT, raRac magdagvars velodiT, magram ara ase Tavxedur nabijs, romliTac sila gaawnes evrokavSirs. amdeni xani mimdinareobda am SeTanxmebis daxvewa da axla uari Tqves yvelaze mniSvnelovan punqtze, romlis gamoc daTanxmda gaerTianebuli opozicia sakanonmdeblo organoebSi Sesvlas, raTa raRac doziT mainc dafiqsirebuliyo politikuri polarizaciis Sesusteba saqarTvelosTvis am urTules periodSi. yvelafer amis miuxedavad, evrokavSirma arCia `ocnebis~ am uxeSi gadawyvetilebis msubuqi Sefaseba, kidev ufro ar daZaba daZabuli viTareba. vfiqrob, Cvens dasavlel partniorebs jer kidev ar daukargavT imedi, 2 oqtombris Semdeg, rodesac daideba TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis Sedegebi, `qarTuli ocnebis~ mimarT gaizrdeba uaryofiTi damokidebuleba da dasavleTi SeZlebs mis dabrunebas am SeTanxmebis CarCoebSi, anu am siCumiT, ubralod, ar qmnis radikalur winaaRmdegobebs, radgan miaCnia, rom saqarTvelo aucileblad unda Sevides evrokavSiris ojaxSi.
– opozicia Tvlis, rom `ocneba~ ver gabedavda dasavleTis uaryofas, ruseTis imedi rom ar hqonoda. mmarTveli partia igives gabralebs Tqven. . .
– am bolos saqarTveloSi mimdinare procesebi cxadyofs, rom swored xelisufleba asrulebs ruseTis dakveTebs da yvela mxriv cdilobs dasavleTis ise gabrazebas, rom Tavad Tqvan uari Cvenze. sxva adekvaturi axsna am yvelafers ar moeZebneba. Tuki Jurnalistebis darbeva sxvebs gadaabrales, am nabijs viRas miaweren, sakiTxavia. rac Seexeba ruseTTan kavSirSi Cvens dadanaSaulebas, imxela absurdia, rom verc gamovTqvam. uamravi sicocxle Seewira saqarTvelos ruseTis imperiisgan gaTavisuflebas. mec im Taobas warmovadgen, romelic aqtiurad ibrZoda saqarTvelos TavisuflebisaTvis. amas wlebi SevwireT, kargad viciT, ra urTulesi gza gaiares Cvenma TanamebrZolebma erovnul-ganmaTavisuflebel brZolebSi. mimZims aRiareba, rom im adamianebs, Tavis droze rom davafuZneT `qarTuli ocneba~, axla amaze saubari gviwevs. Cven gverdSi vedeqiT ivaniSvils, magram msgavsi araferi dagviSvia, verc ki warmogvedgina misi ruseTisken Setrialeba da absoluturad sxva kursis aReba. erTi ram cxadia: qarTveli xalxi amas arafriT dauSvebs da mkerdiT gadaeRobeba gzas CrdiloeTisken.
– ras apirebs opozicia, isev boikots mimarTavs Tu sakanonmdeblo organoebs datovebs?
– ara, arc – erTs da arc – meores, yovel SemTxvevaSi, jer araferi magdagvari ar gadagviwyvetia. CvenTvis axla parlamentis da umaRlesi sabWos tribunebi Zalian mniSvnelovania. cota dro dagvrCa TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebamde da opoziciis mxridan saprotesto aqciebis gaaqtiureba ar iqneba mizanSewonili. piriqiT, unda vecadoT eleqtoratis darwmunebas, rom `qarTuli ocneba~ mosacilebelia qveynis marTvis sadaveebidan. saboloo Sedegebis mixedviT, Tuki isev ar gaayalbeben, sul sxva procesebi daiwyeba – albaT, ufro mkveTri da aqtiuri. cxadia, arCevnebis realur Sedegebs vgulisxmob. vnaxoT, ra iqneba, jer sazafxulo dasvenebebi gvaqvs, xolo seqtemberSi, rodesac davbrundebiT sakanonmdeblo organoSi, ukeT gamoCndeba, vin ra da rogor unda moimoqmedos.

