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2 oqtombris arCevnebisTvis samzadisi dawyebulia, Sesabamisad, qveyndeba sxvadasxva organizaciis mier Catarebuli kvlevebic. am dReebSi sazogadoebrivi kvlevis Sedegebi gaasajarova `erovnul-demokratiulma institutma~, romlis Tanaxmad, mosaxleobis umravlesobam ar icis an ar asaxelebs im partias, romelic mis SexedulebebTan yvelaze axlos dgas. mosaxleobis mxolod 30-ma procentma daasaxela konkretuli partia
kiTxvaze, romeli partia dgas Tqvens SexedulebebTan yvelaze axlos, gamokiTxulTa 51-ma procentma arcerTi partia ar daasaxela. kvlevis mixedviT, gamokiTxulTa 18-ma procentma `qarTuli ocneba~ daasaxela, xolo `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ 6-ma procentma. gamokiTxulTa 6-ma procentma sxva partiebi daasaxela. amave kvlevis mixedviT, gamokiTxulTa 10-ma procentma ar icis, xolo 9 procentma kiTxvaze pasuxi ar gasca.
kvlevis mixedviT, im adamianTa raodenoba, vinc, savaraudod, miiReben arCevnebSi monawileobas, 61 procents Seadgens. maTgan kiTxvaze, romeli partia dgas Tqvens SexedulebebTan yvelaze axlos, 24 procenti `qarTul ocnebas~ asaxelebs, `nacionalur moZraobas~ – 7 procenti, sxva partiebs – 7 procenti, 45 procenti arc erT partias ar asaxelebs, xolo 9 procentma ar icis.
`erovnul-demokratiuli institutisa~ da -saqarTvelos partiebis mxardaWeris individualuri maCveneblebi imdenad dabalia, rom arCevnebis Sedegebis gamosacnobad ver gamodgeba. maTi ganmartebiT, am gamokiTxvisa da arCevnebis Sedegebi mniSvnelovnad gansxvavebuli iqneba, radgan arCevnebis bedi gadauwyveteli amomrCevlis qcevaze iqneba damokidebuli.
`erovnul-demokratiuli institutisa~ da -saqarTvelos mier gamoqveynebuli kvleva 13-25 ivlisis periodSi, saqarTvelos masStabiT, 2,016 satelefono intervius warmomadgenlobiTi SerCevis safuZvelze, qveynis srulwlovan mosaxleobas Soris Catarda (okupirebuli teritoriebis gamoklebiT). gamokiTxvis saSualo cdomilebis zRvari aris +/- 1.3 procenti. respondentebi SemTxveviT nomerze darekvis meTodiT SeirCnen.
saTqmelia isic, rom am dromde, qveynis masStabiT mxolod `qarTulma ocnebam~ warudgina amomrCevels merobis da maJoritari deputatobis kandidatebi. `gaerTianebul opozicias~ ki mxolod dedaqalaqis merobis da sakrebulos Tavmjdomareobis kandidati hyavs dasaxelebuli. mmarTvel gundSi acxadeben, rom opozicias far-xmali dayrili aqvs da maT pasiurobas swored amas miaweren.
kuluaruli informaciiT, `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~ baTumis merobis savaraudo sam kandidats Soris – levan anTaZe, giorgi kirTaZe da mirdat qamadaZe – arCevani jerac ar gaukeTebia.
qveyanaSi mimdinare politikuri procesebi `aWarasTan~ regionis sakanonmdeblo organos umravlesobis wevrma daviT bacikaZem Seafasa. Cvenma respondentma saubari pandemiiT daiwyo.
– avicraT yvela, rom gadavrCeT da safrTxe ar SevuqmnaT sxvebs. uamravi faqtia, ar davakonkreteb, Tumca getyviT, Cem garSemo vaqcinirebuli adamianebi gadaurCnen am verag daavadebas, aucrelebi ki, samwuxarod, mZime mdgomareobaSi arian. tragediaa gardacvalebis is maCvenebeli, rac gvaqvs iseTi patara qveynisTvis, rogoric saqarTveloa. Zalian mZime situaciaSi varT, oponentebi gvetyvian, xelisufleba xarT da pasuxismgebloba gekisrebaTo. diax, pasuxismgeblobas arc gavurbivarT da SezRudvebic daviwyeT. pandemiasTan mimarTebiT vakeTebdiT yvelafers ise, rogorc akeTebda civiluri samyaro. unda viswavloT virusTan Tanacxovreba, radgan pandemia dRes da xval ar dasruldeba. Tu gvinda viarseboT, saxelmwifod davrCeT, ekonomika sabolood ar Camogvengres, davicvaT regulaciebi. kovidTan Tanacxovrebis erTaderTi swori gza vaqcinaciaa da yvelas movuwodeb, aicras. Caketva ar gamogviva, CvenisTana patara saxelmwifo ki ara, didi saxelmwifoebic ki amis winaaRmdegni arian.
– Caketva ara, magram SezRudvebis daweseba aucilebelia.
– SezRudvebi ukve daawesa mTavrobam, Tumca sruli loqdauni ver gamocxaddeba.
– ar fiqrobT, rom SezRudvebis daweseba dagvianebulia? sazogadoebrivi TavSeyris adgilebi metad rom gakontrolebuliyo, qorwilebi da qelexebi agvekrZala. . .
– ar davdivar qorwilebSi, yvelam Cveni wili pasuxismgebloba unda aviRoT! iciT, rom ramdenime darbazi daajarimes da daluqes, magram soflebSi akeTeben wveulebebs, Cumad ikribebian daxurul sivrceebSi da amiT ufro metad amZimeben situacias. vuTxraT Cvens axloblebs, rom maT dResaswauls cudi Sedegi mohyveba. yvelam kargad unda gaviazroT, rom qveyanaSi mZime epidemiologiuri situaciaa. TiToeuli adamianis gardacvalebas aRviqvam ise, rom Cemi bebia, babua, da, Zma, axlo naTesavi gardaicvala.
– politikur situacias rogor SeafasebT?
– ver getyviT, ra xdeba, merobis da maJoritarobis kandidatebi am dromde ar dausaxelebia opozicias, nika melias garda. xvdebian TavianT ususurobas. baTumis magaliTze rom giTxraT, opozicia merobis kandidatzec ki araa Camoyalibebuli. ician, rom konkurencias ver gauweven arCil Ciqovans. `qarTulma ocnebam~ maJoritarobis da merobis kandidatebi daasaxela da aqtiur saarCevno kampaniaSi varT CarTulebi. opozicia kargad xvdeba sazogadoebis ganwyobas, ar aqvT maTi mxardaWera da nihilizmSi arian Cavardnilebi.
– bolo periodSi, qveynis masStabiT adamianebi toveben mmarTvel gunds da giorgi gaxariasTan midian.
– erTeulebi arian aseTebi. mmarTvel gunds, ZiriTadad, Sida qarTlSi toveben, sadac giorgi xojevaniSvili gubernatori iyo giorgi gaxarias premierobis dros da TavisTavad gavlena hqonda. giorgi gaxarias sanaTesaoc bevri hyolia dasaqmebuli iq da es adamianebic masTan valSi arian.
– Sarl miSelis xelSekrulebis anulirebis mizezebze saubrisas opozicia ambobs, rom `qarTul ocnebas~ SeeSinda, radgan icis, ver gadalaxavs xelSekrulebiT daTqmul 43 procents.
– erT-erTi viyavi, vinc vTvlidi, rom sadac marTlebi varT – araferi unda davTmoT. sabolood dadasturda kidec, rom 2020 wlis saparlamento arCevnebi ar gayalbebula. es aRiares rogorc saerTaSoriso organizaciebma, aseve parlamentis sagamoZiebo komisiamac. arasamTavrobo organizaciebis didi nawili afelirebulebi ki arada, `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ xelisuflebaSi yofnis dros maRalCinosnebi iyvnen. aqedan gamomdinare, kvleviTi organizaciebi `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ aqtivistebs rom atarebineben kvlevebs, iReben im Sedegebs, rasac deben.
– ase Tu vimsjelebT, kvleviT organizacia -s xelisuflebasTan akavSireben. . .
– gaxsovT wina arCevnebis dros -is Catarebuli kvleva? didad ar gansxvavdeboda arCevnebSi miRebuli Sedegisgan. winasaarCevno kvlevebis sajarod gamoqveynebis winaaRmdegi var, marTalia, winasaarCevno procesebis Semadgeneli nawilia, magram mainc. CemTvis ufro saintereso egzitpolia, rac miaxloebulia realur SedegTan. patriarqis Semdeg yvelaze reitinguli daviT baqraZe iyo, romlis partiasac 3-5 procents uwerdnen, sxva ra giTxraT. levan TarxniSvilis meuRlis Catarebuli kvlevisgan sxva molodini arc unda hqonoda sazogadoebas. ise, sainteresoa, sad gaaqres jer kidev moqmedi politikosi daviT baqraZe. dRes igi giorgi gaxariaTi Caanacvles, igive procents uweren da Sedegic igive eqneba, rogorc Tavis droze hqondaT `evronacebs~.
ar gamova manipulaciiT arCevnebis mogeba civilur samyaroSi. marTalia, yvelaferi idealurad ar gvaqvs, kidev bevri unda viswavloT, Tumca adamianebis gakeTebuli arCevani rom ar yalbdeba saqarTveloSi, amas aRiarebs msoflio – ai, esaa mTavari CemTvis. ise, rogorc 2020 wlis arCevnebis dros, arc wels eqneba saarCevno ubnebze `nacionalur moZraobas~ saCivrebi, Sedegebi ar moewonebaT saRamos 8 saaTis Semdeg da mere daiwyeben gancxadebebis gakeTebas.
– anu molodini gaqvT, rom kvlavac ityvis opozicia – arCevnebi gayalbdao?
– ase iyo bolo arCevnebze. mTeli dRis ganmavlobaSi, baTumis masStabiT, sul 7 saCivari daweres. 8 saaTis Semdegac ar dauweriaT saCivrebi, roca Sedegebi gamoqveynda. arCevnebis meore dRes daiwyes gaprotesteba.
– da protesti naxevari weli gagrZelda.
– 2012 wlis Semdeg arCevnebi saqarTveloSi ar gayalbebula. iyo erTaderTi SemTxveva marneulSi, sadac Sedegebi gauqmda da sisxlis samarTlis saqmec aRiZra.
– ra molodini gaqvT, pandemiis fonze rogor Catardeba arCevnebi?
– SezRudvebma unda mogvces saSualeba, rom adamianebma sakuTari arCevani gaakeTon.
– `qarTuli ocnebis~ dasaxelebul kandidatebze ras ityviT?
– SemoxazeT 41! Cven Rirseuli kandidatebi gvyavs dasaxelebuli!

