დავით ჩხარტიშვილი: ჩვენი მხოლოდ არჩევანის ილუზიაა ,,მიშისტურ” დისკურსში
rTul situaciaSia Cveni qveyana, gagvigrZelda turbulentobis zona, gamosavalic ar Cans. ratom xdeba is, rac xdeba Cvens Tavs? dRes am Temaze publicist daviT CxartiSvils vesaubrebiT.
– batono daviT, raa simarTle im urTierTgamomricxavi faqtebis kaleidoskopSi, romliTac yoveldRiurad ivseba sainformacio veli?
– dekadebia, simulaciaSi, virtualur realobaSi vcxovrobT da magitomac, xelovnur situaciaSi, sadac sasurveli realobad saRdeba. gind es Sida Tu gare Temebs exebodes, sadac umniSvnelovanes, saxelmwifowarmomqmnel institutebSi iseTi xalxia mokalaTebuli, romlebic ver axdenen erSi arsebuli ganwyobebis keTilsindisier reprezentacias. metic, maT diskreditacias uweven ukve imiT, rom iq sxedan, imdenad diskreditebuli warsuli da profSeusabamoba axasiaTebT. didwilad, `Tamadebi~, `fulis tomrebi~ momxmareblis instinqtiT da yvela drois, yvelasTan Sekruli, yvelaferSi gasvrili nomenklaturuli klanebi warmoadgenen ers Sida da gare asparezze. Aanda, sulac, `glamuris~ warmomadgeneli, socialurad dabali pasuxismgeblobis pirebi, meinstrimuli partiuli media xom saerTod maTi sinekuraa. am kategoriis xalxma rogor unda aaSenos rame Rirebuli? miT ufro – TviTkmari, erze, bersa da STamomavlobaze orientirebuli suverenuli demokratia? mokled, amgvarad viqeciT saerTaSoriso TviTkmar, perspeqtivebiT savse obieqtidan regionalur instrumentad didi moTamaSeebisTvis. saubedurod, savsea aseTi xalxiT pozicia da opozicia da e.w. mesame Tu meoTxe Zalac aseTive iqneba, radganac sistemur xarvezTan gvaqvs saqme. is saxelmwifobrivad moazrovne politikosebi ki, romlebic sWirdeba qveyanas, yvelgan umciresobaSi arian. mxolod axlaxan gaixsna veli, rodesac RaribaSvili yovelgvari mikib-mokibvis gareSe dadga erisa da beris mxares. amiT man gadalaxa is rubikoni, romelzec aqamde, partiuli kuTvnilebis miuxedavad, konsensusi arsebobda da tabuirebuli iyo oficiozSi, rac SesaZleblobas iZleoda, formalurad – ara, magram msoflmxedvelobrivad `nacebTan~ myofT, koniunqturuli mosazrebebis gamo, komfortulad egrZnoT Tavi `ocnebaSic~. amiT isini sargeblobdnen kidec, konveieruli wesiT wevriandebodnen ra mmarTvel ZalaSi, sakvanZo Tanamdebobebs ikavebdnen da diversiebiTac iyvnen dakavebuli. magram gavaneboT `ocnebas~ Tavi, am etapze. problema gabatonebul diskursSia, romelic Zalian nela, magram icvleba. esRaa, rom xdeba es ara Cveni damsaxurebiT, rac erTi-orad daaCqarebda saqmes, aramed saerTaSoriso dRis wesrigis cvalebadobis gamo. Aai, Tundac TvalsaCinoebisTvis, is nulovani reitingis partiebi aviRoT. maTi saxeebic gaixseneT, yvela jerze rom parlamentSi xvdebian saswaulebrivi gzebiT. ojaxis wevrebic ki ar aZleven lamis xmas, magram teleekranebidan ratomRac sul eseni sCanan. e.w. megobari qveynebis dipkorpusic mudam maTze debs fsons. gaixseneT maTi ritorika, ra kontingentia es, ra midrekilebebi aqvT, ras upirispirdebian xolme, ra akeriaT pirze, maTi qcevis modeli, zogadad eklesiasTan da qarTul tradiciebTan mimarTebaSi. mere ki Tavad gansajeT, Tu rasTan gvaqvs saqme saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs. vis awyobs aseTi mdgomareoba saqarTveloSi? patriot qarTvelebs – namdvilad ara. ki, batono, am jerze `ocnebam~ SeZlo da gaarRvia es Tema, TumcaRa bevrad adre, yvela tribunidan unda yofiliyo amaze saubari, Sesabamisad, arc amdeni maqcia iqneboda maT rigebSi, rac ukve sxva tipis problemebs uqmnis sakuTriv mmarTvel partias da, Sesabamisad, qveyanasac. magram mesmis maTic, iseT ZalebTan mouwevdaT Widili, romlebmac trampi gadaylapes da Statebic ki samoqalaqo omis piras daayenes. maSasadame, ivaniSvilis `SeWmac~ namdvilad ar gauWirdebodaT im etapze, sanam saerTaSoriso doneze ar Seiryeoda maTi poziciebi. amitomac, ivaniSvili, faqtobrivad, iZulebuli gaxda, `miSizmisTvis~ misi monaTesave Zalebi miesia dawyebiT etapzeve – `portirebulebis~, `respublikelebis~ da alasanias gundis saxiT. gamouvida epikurad – `mtacebeli ucxos winaaRmdeg~. TumcaRa, ver gaTvala erTi umniSvnelovanesi detali – am orive tipis monstrma gamravleba moaswro, gamoCeka ra kvercxebi da ufro daxvewili, mimikrirebuli da saSiSi formebi miiRo, `ocnebis~ Tanmdevi nawili gaxda. garkveuli Zalebi garedan, dRes zustad rom am kontingentze deben fsons. jer erTi, imdenad utifrad da Riad uWeren ukve mxars `miSizms~, rom yovelgvar diplomatiur protokols gascdnen. meore, signalebs uSveben Tavad `ocnebis~ rigebSi im maqciebis sayuradRebod, vinc iq koaliciuri formatis droidanaa, magram arsiT mainc `miSistad~ darCa. Aai, es xalxi miayenebs male dartymas rubikongadalaxul RaribaSvilsac.
– da vinaa amaSi damnaSave, ivaniSvili, saakaSvili Tu qarTveli xalxi?
– `Cven~ movaxdenT Tqveni gonebis formirebas, `Tavisufal~ arCevans ki Tqven gaakeTebT (icinis). ganaTleba `miSisturia~, televizia – `miSisturi~, faseulobebi – `miSisturi~. hoda, gveubnebian pirdapir, rom Tqveni mxolod arCevanis iluziaa Cvens diskursSi. es naxevrad xumrobiT, ra Tqma unda. xalxi namdvilad araa damnaSave. qarTveli xalxi da ivaniSvili, am SemTxvevaSi, garemoebebis mZevalni ufroa. am mocemulobas, kerZod ki ruxi masisa da maqciebis dominirebas, qarTuli politikuri da media TamaSebis wesebi ganapirobebs da es wesebi Cveni dawesebuli rodia. asea, roca laboratoriul pirobebSi cxovrobs qveyana da arsiT Tavisufali arCevanis saSualeba ar geZleva, roca srulad gikontroleben diskurss da yvelafer qarTuls, zogadad, tradiciul-konservatoruls, zomier klasikur liberalursac ki rusul propagandad naTlaven angaJirebuli wreebi, romlebsac sabWouri `mTavlitis~ funqcia aqvT miniWebuli e.w. megobari qveynebis mxridan. asea, rodesac suvereniteti delegirebuli gaqvs ucxo da mtacebel moTamaSeebze, roca eleqtoraluri da ara saxelmwifoebrivi strategiebiT xelmZRvanelobs politikuri klasi. Tavad es klasi ki arc qarTvelebis SerCeulia, arc ivaniSvilis Tavisufali arCevanis Sedegia. saqme isaa, rom eleqtoralur ganwyobebs media qmnis, medias ki ideologia akontrolebs, ideologias, anu diskurss – e.w. partniori qveynebi. mwyobri da Sesabamisad, mZlavri ideolgia am qveyanaSi gaaCniaT mxolod `miSistur~ Zalebs. mavani Semomedaveba, gana `imedi~ araa `ocnebiso~, sakuTar diskurss ar atarebs? – ara – da Tu ratom, amis axsna Sors wagviyvans. erTaderTi, pirobiTad `ocnebis~ televizia am qveyanaSi aris `posтV~ da isic ZiebaSia, radganac Tavad `ocneba~ mxolod negatiuri refleqsia `miSizmze~ da aramc da aramc TviTkmari, kreatiuli ideologia. TumcaRa mjera, rom amis miuxedavad, `posтV~ moaxerxebs katalizatoris rolis Sesrulebas, daaCqarebs axali da Tamami garRvevis ideologiis kristalizaciis process, radganac udavod niWieri da sworad moazrovne gundia am televiziaSi. erTiRaa didi problema: vgoneb, avTenturi ideologiuri bazisis Seqmnis mniSvnelobas jer kidev kargad ver wvdebian sagnis specifikidan gamomdinare isini, visac amis berketebi da sasicocxlo interesi gaaCnia. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, didi xnis gaZlierebuli iqneboda `posтV~ da damatebiT mTeli qseli iarsebebda msgavsi suliskveTebis mediaplatformebis. mokled, Tavad `ocnebis~ liderSipma unda gaiazros imis mniSvneloba, rasac sakuTari ideologiis dabadeba hqvia. piradad me es swori konservatorul-tradiciuli, aseve, klasikur-liberaluri xedvebis sinTezis meSveobiT mimaCnia SesaZleblad. sanam es ar moxerxdeba, rogori monaxazic hqonda `ocnebas~ 2012-Si – situaciuri kavSirebiTurT da ekleqtikuri SexedulebebiT, iseTive darCeba. samwuxaroa, magram akademiur doneze aravin izruna maT rigebSi Rirebuli da avTenturi koncefciis SemuSavebaze. mxolod kinklaoba klanebs Soris, erTmaneTis CaZirva da `naTeli wertilebis~ autanloba iyo am gaerTianebis xelwera mTeli es wlebi. asea, roca sxvisi avtoritetis xarjze da ara sakuTari damsaxurebisa Tu brZolis Sedegad modixar xelisuflebaSi. aseT dros naklebad gawuxebs xolme pasuxismgeblobis grZnoba sxvis mier wamowyebul da Rirsebis saqmeze. maTi saimijo saxeebi, premierebi, aqtivi dRes mimofantulia sxvadasxva platformaSi. da bedis ironiaa, rom maTi umravlesoba swored im banakSia, romelsac viTomda ebrZodnen, rodesac `ocnebaSi~ msuye adgilebi ekavaT. es maTma ideologiam ganapiroba, radganac SegnebiT yovelTvis iyvnen `nacebis~ banakSi, swored rom ideis gamo. vinaidan `ocnebasac~ igive Sexedulebebi aqvs deklarirebuli, isini bunebrivad aRmoCndnen am gundSi, roca es materialuri mdgomareobis gasaumjobeseblad dasWirdaT. kritikul situaciaSi ki, rodesac sakiTxi gascda teqnikur mxares da amosaval ideaze midga jeri, isev aRmoCndnen im platformis wiaRSi, romelic maTTvis mSobliuri iyo anu `nacionalur moZraobas~ da maTTan afilirebul Zalebsa Tu medias daubrundnen. markerebi aq rusofobiaa, `gavrilovis Rame~, evroatlantikuri gezis radikaluri interpretacia, memarcxene liberaluri ideebis qomagoba da a.S. Zalze martivia aseTi maqciebis gamocnoba `ocnebis~ rigebSi, magram amasac ki aravin akeTebs, imdenad miSvebulia partia. metic, aseTi elementebi sakvanZo adgilebs ikaveben xolme partiul nomenklaturaSic. karga xnis daSlili iqneboda `ocneba~ am uideobis, midi-modi kontingentis da cocxali proeqtebis arqonis pirobebSi, rom ara isev da isev ivaniSvilis avtoriteti da eris udidesi nawilis SiSi saakaSvilis reJimis reinkarnaciisa. namdvilad araa kargad saqme. amitomac veli ivaniSvilis dabrunebas imaze male, vidre es bevrs warmoudgenia, Tanac ukve axali doqtriniTa da axali saimijo saxeebiT, romlebic myisve `gadaaformateben~ `ocnebas~, radganac ubralod saxeebis cvla aRarafris momtania, alternativac gamouCndaT gaxarias saxiT. imasac vuSveb, rom gamoCenisTanave ivaniSvili eleganturad gawmends maqaurobas, mere gaSlis `ocnebas~ da ukve ramdenime partiiT Seutevs memarcxene liberalur platformaze mdgar Zalebs. saqme isaa, rom partiuloba dRes saqarTveloSi pirobiTi cnebaa, wyalgamyofi gadis sul sxvagan da qveynis bedic, aseve, wydeba ara am viwropartiuli Widilis formatSi.
– geTanxmebiT, ideaa amosavali nebismieri mdgradi gaerTianebisTvis, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi gaerTianeba situaciuria. gasagebia isic, rom uideoba, anda sxvisi ideis morgeba ganapirobebs imas, rom medroveebi sxva banakidan, martivad imkvidreben Tavs aseT gaerTianebebSi. imis gaTvaliswinebiT ki, rom swored azrovneba, anu gabatonebuli ideeebi gansazRvraven qcevasac, avtomaturad viRebT maqcias, romelic formalurad ki aris `ocnebaSi~, magram fiqrobs da moqmedebs rogorc `naci~, ara? magram saqme isaa, rom gvaqvs is, rac gvaqvs, ivaniSvili ki saerTod wavida politikidan. . .
– absoluturad swori replikaa ivaniSvilze da azris formulirebac ideis mniSvnelobaze – marTebuli. TumcaRa, ivaniSvili arsad wasula. formalurad ar aris, magram kidevac aris. azriTi eqsperimenti – `Sredingeris kata~ gsmeniaT, albaT. ivaniSvili `damkvirvebelia~, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi, roca mis mier wamowyebuli eqsperimentis msvlelobas safrTxe daemuqreba, aucileblad gamoCndeba da koreqciasac Seitans. eWvebi maqvs, rom is rac xdeba, SemTxveviTi movlena rodia. ar mjera ubralod, rom aseT ucodinrobasTan gvaqvs saqme. iqneb mizanmimarTulad xdeba am e.w. portirebulebis wina flangze wamoweva, anda sulac korumpirebuli da abaSiZis odiozuri kadrebis lobireba, rom diskreditacia moxerxdes `ocnebis~ rogorc progresuli Zalis? Tu asea, namdvilad Wkviani xalxis mofiqrebuli xrikia es. ai, amerikis magaliTis eqstrapolacia rom movaxdinoT (iqauri `dipsteitis~ mier e.w. Rrma saxelmwifos kadrebis Canergvaze saxelmwifo departamentSi, mediasa da ZalovnebSi maqvs saubari), zedgamoWrili iqneba Cvenzec. im kadrebzea saubari, romlebic, didwilad, `demokratiuli partiis~ msoflmxedvelobas iziarebdnen da formalurad trampis banakSi imyofebodnen kritikul situaciamde. ar gagonebT es aq arsebul ganlagebas? raRac msgavsi xdeba CvenTanac da kaci araa amaze pasuxismgebeli. msgavsi maqinaciebis Sedegad imdenad Seerwya `ocnebis~ politikuri klasi da Zveli, `nacebis~ administraciuli elitebi erTmaneTs, rom dRes Zneli gasarkvevia, rasTan gvaqvs saerTod saqme. da aravin Semomedavos, rom ase araa! qronologiurad da saxelebiT SemiZlia CamovTvalo, vin da saidanaa, ra amoZravebs, ra gza ganvlo, vin – uwesobis da vin – uunarobis, anda sulac korufciis gamoa gagdebuli `nacebidan~ Tu ibraimoviCis wridan. ubralod, am etapze, aseT detalebze ar vamaxvileb yuradRebas da egaa. yovelTvis vcdilob, rom saerTo saqme ar daziandes aseTi teqnikuri da, Sesabamisad, gamosworebadi detalebis gamo. ganazogadeT es viTareba da dainaxavT, ra mizezebia aRmosafxvreli, aseve, ra uSlis am mizezebis aRmofxvras xels. davsZendi – guli mtkiva, rodesac vxedav, Tu rogor Telavs sxvis naSromsa da nabrZolze mosuli mavani imas, ris gamoc odesRac bevrma didi problemebi Seuqmna sakuTar Tavs, raTa qalaqs, regionsa Tu qveyanas sxva atmosferoSi da perspeqtiviT ecxovra. am algoriTmis Secvla jer SeiZleba, miuxedavad imisa, rom 2012 wlis mere `nacebis~ eleqtorati gasammagebulia. simarTle giTxraT, CemTvis sulerTia, moxdeba es saxeldobr `ocnebis~ mandatiT, Tu romelime sxva, ara neoliberaluri Zalis meSveobiT. mTavaria, `nacionalurma moZraobam~ am sabediswero etapze revanSi ar moaxdinos da isev ar gadaagdos qveyana nacionalistur `arqaikaSi~, Tu memarcxene liberalur TrobaSi.
principSi, ai esaa, didwilad, is problematika, ris gamoc aseTi arasaxarbielo viTarebaa da romelic Tan sdevda ivaniSvilis wamowyebas pirvelive dRidan, axla ki sistemuri gamosworebis Sansi aris da imedia, am SesaZleblobas xelidan ar gauSvebs.
