ლაშა ბოლქვაძე: ამ არჩევნებმა ჩვენი საზოგადოების სოციალური პასუხისმგებლობის მაღალი დონე გვაჩვენა
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gadauWarbeblad SeiZleba iTqvas, rom 2021 wlis adgilobrivi arCevnebi istoriuli iyo Tavisi mniSvnelobiT, radgan oc municipalitetSi gaimarTeba meore turi, ZiriTadad, qalaqebSi (Tbilisi, baTumi, quTaisi, rusTavi, zugdidi. . .) saerTo jamSi opoziciam gaimarjva, rac manamde saqarTvelos arCevnebis istoriaSi ar momxdara. saakaSvilis qveyanaSi Camosvlam da dapatimrebam polarizacia gazarda miuxedavad imisa, rom mmarTvelma gundma daTqmuli 43 procenti daZlia da riggareSe arCevnebis Catareba dRis wesrigidan moxsna. xelisufleba mravali gamowvevis winaSea rogorc saSinao, ise sagareo politikis TvalsazrisiT, rac warmoSobs kiTxvebs: ra suraTi miviReT arCenebis Semdeg? saakaSvilis faqtorma ra gavlena moaxdina arCevnebze, ra Sansi aqvs opozicias meore turSi da saerTod, ra gamowvevebia qveynis winaSe? amis Taobaze Tavis mosazrebas gviziarebs aWaris savaWro-samrewvelo palatis mrCeveli diplomatiur sakiTxebSi, axalgazrda biznesmenTa asociaciis Tavmjdomare, baTumis saxelmwifo universitetis doqtoranti (lingvistika-diplomatiur diskursSi) laSa bolqvaZe, romelic amave universitetSi miwveulia iaponuri enis leqtorad.
– batono laSa, ra daskvnis safuZvels iZleva arCevnebis Sedegebi?
– am arCevnebma gvaCvena Cveni sazogadoebis socialuri pasuxismgeblobis maRali done, rac imaze miuTiTebs, rom Cveni sazogadoebis cnobiereba progresirebs. aseve, aSkarad Canda mediis Tavisufleba da mravalferovneba. miuxedavad sazogadoebis polarizebulobisa da problematuri faqtorebisa, dRemde Catarebuli arCevnebisgan gansxvavebiT, amJamindelma Caiara ufro mSvid da konkurentunarian garemoSi. saerTo jamSi, saerTaSoriso damkvirveblebma procesi pozitiurad Seafases, Tumca saarCevno procesSi aRiniSneboda iseTi xarvezebi, romlebic samomavlod aucileblad gasaTvaliswinebeli da gamosasworebelia. es aucilebeli pirobaa qveynis demokratiulobis xarisxis ganmtkicebisTvis.
– opoziciis azriT, mmarTvelma gundma kvlav gaayalba arCevnebi, xelisufleba sapirispiros amtkicebs, Tqveni azri amis Sesaxeb?
– Tu gvsurs evropul, demokratiul, usafrTxo da Zlieri ekonomikuri mdgomareobis mqone qveyanaSi cxovreba, amisaTvis aucilebelia, tardebodes samarTliani da konkurentunariani arCevnebi. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, ver viqnebiT im didi evro-atlantikuri ojaxis wevri, romliskenac ase miviswrafviT. amitom, es sakiTxi yvela mxarem unda gaiTvaliswinos.
– aSkaraa, rom opoziciam erTianad, ufro meti xma miiRo, vidre mmarTvelma gundma, am Sedegs ramdenad gaacnobierebs xelisufleba Tundac samomavlod koaliciuri mTavarobis formirebis TvalsazrisiT?
– es arCevnebi xelisuflebisaTvis iyo kidev erTi kargi gakveTili, romelmac rigianad SeajanjRara, misca mas kidev erTi kargi saSualeba, rom xalxis TvaliT daenaxa arsebuli realoba. arsebuli Sedegebi, marTlac, kargi gakveTilia xelisuflebisaTvis, magram aRniSnuli viTareba opoziciis wisqvilze asxams wyals. rac Seexeba koaliciuri mTavrobis formirebas, xelisuflebisTvis es siaxles ar warmoadgens. amis gamocdileba ukve aqvs, Tumca es misTvis misaRebi ar aRmoCnda. vfiqrob, mmarTvel gunds eqneba konkretuli strategiebi imisaTvis, rom darCes dominant Zalad.
– vis sasargeblod imuSava saakaSvilis faqtorma – opoziciis Tu xelisuflebis. misi cixeSi yofna ramdenad daazianebs xelisuflebis imijs Sin da gareT?
– arsebuli realoba ver iqneba damakmayofilebeli, radgan qveynis yofili mmarTveli, prezidenti imyofeba sasjelaRsrulebis dawesebulebaSi, rac nebismier viTarebaSi qveynis imijze uaryofiTad aisaxeba. nebismieri gadawyvetilebisa da gadadgmuli nabijis dros, pirvel rigSi, gasaTvaliswinebelia saxelmwifos da ara piradi interesebi. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, es negatiurad imoqmedebs qveynis sagareo politikur da diplomatiur urTierTobebze.
– opoziciac da xelisuflebac meore turisTvis emzadeba, SeZlebs Tu ara opozicia aRniSnul qalaqebSi gamarjvebis mopovebas?
– yovelTvis yvelaferia SesaZlebeli, zogjer ki SesaZlebeli SeuZlebeli.
– am arCevnebma TvalnaTliv gvaCvena, rom brZola kvlav or Zalas ( mmarTveli partia da `nacmoZraoba~) Soris mimdinareobs, am mxriv gaxarias partiis Sedegze ras ityviT?
– vfiqrob, gaxarias mosalodneli rezultati mniSvnelovnad Seamcira mixeil saakaSvilis qveyanaSi dabrunebam, TumcaRa axlad Camoyalibebuli partiisTvis es Sedegi sakmaod kargia, rac samomavlod ganviTa-rebis potencialis maCvenebelia.
– eqspertebi acxadeben, rom yvela xelisufleba erTsa da imave Secdomas uSvebs, ar uzrunvelyofs sasamarTlos realur damoukideblobas da ver eleva erTpartiul mmarTvelobas, rac qveynisTvis savalalo iyo da aris, ras fiqrobT?
– es gamomdinareobs erTi ideologiuri Segonebidan `Secdoma politikaSi dauSvebeli fufunebaa~, aseve, `umjobesia sxvis Secdomebze swavla~. Secdomis aRiareba sakuTar TviTSefasebaze Tavdasxmis tolfasia. es did problemebs gviqmnis, vinaidan politikaSi Secdomebi Znelad eqvemdebareba kontrols. amitom politikaSi aqcenti swori gadawyvetilebebis miRebis meTodebis srulyofaze ufro keTdeba, vidre Tavad Secdomebis mizezebze. vfiqrob, Secdomebis Semcirebis saSualebaa gadawyvetilebis miRebis procedurebis srulyofa da politikuri riskebis zusti gansazRvra.
– arCevnebi Caivlis, zogi kmayofili darCeba, zogi – ara, qveynaSi ki uamravi gamowvevaa – mcocavi okupacia, arasaxarbielo ekonomikuri mdgomareoba, mosaxleobis migracia qveynidan, xelisuflebam ra unda gaakeTos, rom am gamowvevebs SeZlebisdagvarad upasuxos?
– gavimeoreb – qveyanaSi aucilebelia samarTliani da konkurentunariani arCevnebis Catareba. aris rigi sakiTxebisa, romlebis gadasawyvetad yvela unda iyos konsolidirebuli. yvela politikuri mxare unda akeTebdes maqsimums imisaTvis, rom qveynis dasavlur kurss ar Seeqmnas safrTxe, rac Cveni sazogadoebis istoriuli arCevani da stabilurobis garantia. cxadia, mosaxleobis migracia qveynis ekonomikuri mdgomareobis Sedegia. amitom mniSvnelovania swori xedva, strategia da nabijebi ekonomikis ganviTarebis mimarTulebiT. qveynis Sida stabiluroba saSualebas ar miscems gare Zalebs, rom zegavlena moaxdinon Cvens geografiul, socialur, ekonomikur da politikur mdgomareobaze.
– sagareo sakiTxsac SevexoT, CineTis gavlenis Sesasusteblad aSS-ma, didma britaneTma da avstraliam usafrTxoebis paqti gaaformes, ras cvlis es msoflios saerTaSoriso sistemaSi da am mxriv, xom ar rCeba nato TamaSgare mdgomareobaSi?
– CineTma dagmo gaformebuli paqti, romelic gulisxmobs indo-wynari okeanis regionSi interesebis dacvas usafrTxoebis kuTxiT da mzardi gavlenebis Semcirebas CineTisTvis, mowinave teqnologiebis gaziarebas xelovnuri inteleqtis, kiber da kvanturi teqnologiebis sferoebSi. vfiqrob, es urTierTobebis xelaxali gadaxedvis albaTobas gaaCens. Cemi azriT, natos TamaSgare mdgomareobaSi Cayeneba jerjerobiT ar emuqreba.
– eqspertebi acxadeben, rom SesaZloa, uaxloes momavalSi nato Caanacvlos evropis usafrTxoebis sakuTarma formatma da am mxriv saqarTvelos sWirdeba axali strategia, Tqveni azri amis Taobaze?
– Cven varT evropuli ojaxis ganuyofeli nawili, Sesabamisad, Tuki ase moxdeba, Cveni qveyanac avtomaturad SeimuSavebs Sesabamis strategiebs, Tumca natos rolis Sesusteba varaudisa da Woris donezea da am etapze seriozulad ar ganixileba.
– kvlav saSinao politikas davubrundeT, analitikosebi amboben, rom stabiluri politikuri garemos gaumjobesebisTvis aucilebelia orpalatiani parlamentis Seqmna da amavdroulad, realuri TviTmmarTvelobis Camoyalibeba, ramdenad SesaZlebelia yovelive es da Tu xedavT am mimarTulebiT politikuri speqtris mzaobas?
– zogierT ganviTarebul saxelmwifoSi arsebobs orpalatiani parlamenti, romelic sakmaod warmatebulad muSaobs, Tumca sxva modelebic sakmaod warmatebulia, rig qveynebSi. es sakiTxi saWiroebs kargad dafiqrebas, gaazrebas, msjelobas da mxolod amis safuZvelze gadawyvetilebis miRebas. rac Seexeba realur TviTmmarTvelobas, qveynisTvis aucilebelia decentralizacia da adgilobrivi TvimmarTvelobis gaZliereba.
– dabolos, xelisuflebam ra mniSvnelovan sakiTxebze unda gaamaxvilos yuradReba, rogorc saSinao, ise sagareo politikis TvalsazrisiT?
– yvelaze mTavari, rac sagareo da saSinao urTierTobisTvisaa mniSvnelovani da aucilebeli, aris sasamarTlos sistemis reforma, romelic iqneba arsebuli gamowvevebis, saerTaSoriso praqtikis, damoukideblobis, kvalificiurobisa da misi efeqtianobis, angariSvaldebulebis principebiT uzrunvelyofili da gaTvaliswinebuli. aseve, aucilebelia sazogadoebaSi polarizebis Semcireba, romelic xels uwyobs arastabiluri garemos Seqmnas, es ki TavisTavad uaryofiT zegavlenas axdens qveynis socialur, politikur da ekonomikur mdgomareobaze.