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adgilobriv arCevnebSi mmarTvelma partiam `qarTuli ocneba – demokratiuli saqarTvelo~ proporciuli siiT xmebis 46,69%-iT gaimarjva. opoziciur `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~ xmebis 30,7% aqvs. ceskos monacemebiT, mesame adgilzea eqspremier giorgi gaxarias partia `saqarTvelosTvis~ – 7,8%
pirveli ori partiis miRwevebi aravis gakvirvebia, magram axalSeqmnili `saqarTvelosTvis~ procentulma monacemma eqspertTa gaoceba gamoiwvia. yvela erTxmad ambobs, rom gaxariam xmebi waarTva yofil Tanagundelebs, romlebic axla mas moRalated miiCneven. garda amisa, gadaibira `lelos~ amomrCevelic, riTac dartyma miayena gaerTianebul opozicias, romlis sasargeblodac gaiRo sakuTari xmebi xazaraZem. adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebze, qveynis masStabiT, partiam `saqarTvelosTvis~ 109 mandati aiRo.
moulodneli aRmoCnda gaxarias gancxadeba mesame prezidentis malulad Camosvlis Taobazec. `mmarTvelma partiam da `nacmoZraobam~ arCevnebis win saakaSvilis dapatimrebiT maskaradi moawyves~, – miaCnia yofil premiers, – `arCevnebis wina dRes Cven vixileT gasaocari Sou, es moxda simbolurad 1 oqtombers da arCevnebamde ramdenime saaTiT adre. . . es iyo ori politikuri partiis mier dagegmili erToblivi specRonisZieba, romlis mizanic, Cveni amomrCevlebis SecdomaSi Seyvanaa~. gaxariam 2 oqtombris adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCenebi Seafasa rogorc qarTuli demokratiisTvis ukan gadadgmuli nabiji. misi TqmiT, arCevnebma arasamarTlian atmosferoSi Caiara, xolo e.w. karuselebs sistematuri xasiaTi hqonda. rogorc aRniSna, mis momxreebze da partiis wevrebze, gansakuTrebiT arCevnebis win, zogierTi televiziis mxridan zewola, muqara da Savi piari xorcieldeboda.
rogorc giorgi gaxariam aRniSna, misi partia iqneba warmodgenili yvela qalaqis da raionis sakrebuloSi da gaagrZelebs moqmedebas saqarTvelos interesebidan gamomdinare:
`arCevnebis Sedegebma aCvena, rom qarTvel xalxs gauCnda orpartiuli mmarTvelobis winaaRmdeg brZolis SesaZlebloba. CvenTvis Zalian mniSvnelovania saxelmwifos interesebi, misi ganviTareba, yvela Cveni nabiji saqarTvelos interesebidan gamomdinare iqneba~.
gaxarias TqmiT, meore turSi is aqtiurad dauWers mxars mxolod Tavis maJoritarebs, kerZod, cageris merobis kandidats besarion bendelians.
saqarTvelos 20 qalaqSi, maT Soris TbilisSi, sadac amomrCevelTa 50%-ze meti xmis mopoveba verc erTma kandidatma ver SeZlo, meore turi gaimarTeba,
yofili premier-ministri da misi partiis momxreebi adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis meore turSi mxars arc `qarTuli ocnebis~ da arc misi mTavari oponentis `nacionaluri moZraobis~ kandidatebs ar dauWeren.
`amomrCeveli gonieria. Cveni mxardaWeriT, faqtobrivad Tqva, rom winaaRmdegia radikalizaciis, Zalauflebis koncentraciis da surs mmarTvelobis dabalanseba. Sesabamisad, Cven maT ver vetyviT, ar mivayenebT Seuracxyofas SeTavazebiT, sxva Zalebs dauWiron mxari. . .
xazgasmiT minda aRvniSno, rom TiToeul maJoritars, romelic wardgenilia Cveni partiidan meore turebSi, mxars davuWerT da darwmunebuli var, rom gavimarjvebT~.
gaxariam aseve aRniSna, rom TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis Semdeg misi partia Seecdeba arc erT SemTxvevaSi ar dauSvas erTpirovnuli mmarTveloba, radgan am or, misi TqmiT, `viTom~ erTmaneTTan dapirispirebul politikur Zalas – `qarTul ocnebasac~ da `nacionalur moZraobasac~ midrekileba aqvs erTpirovnuli mmarTvelobisken: `Cveni mTavari mizani iqneba dabalanseba da is, rom ar mivceT SesaZlebloba arc erT maTgans, moaxdinon Zalauflebis koncentracia sadme, maT Soris, municipalur doneze~.
saqarTveloSi adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis meore turi 30 oqtombers gaimarTeba, romlisTvisac mmarTveli partia da misi mTavari konkurenti, yvelaze msxvili opoziciuri partia `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ emzadeba. Tu vis mxares daiWers gaxaria da vis sasargeblod gadaaTamaSebs aRebul xmebs, amis mixedviT gadawydeba vis mxarezea Tavad.
isev rCeba dRis wesrigSi gaxarias warmatebis saidumlo. qarTuli politikis ori wamyvani partia erTmaneTs abralebs yofili premieris politikaSi mosvlas. erTi mxare mas saakaSvilis agents uwodebs, meore – ivaniSvilis axal proeqts.
ra xdeba CvenTan? – baTumis municipalitetis sakrebuloSi xmebi Tanabrad gadanawilda enm-s da `ocnebas~ Soris, sami mandati ki gaxarias partiam aiRo. opozicia imedovnebs, rom `lelos~ msgavsad, esec maTken gadaixreba, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, `saqarTvelosTvis~ partias `ocnebis~ iarliyi miekvreba.
am Temaze gTavazobT intervius baTumis merobis yofil kandidat irakli miqelaZesTan, romelic ar apirebs arc erTi oponentis madis dakmayofilebas da agrZelebs brZolas saboloo gamarjvebamde, Tundac es gamarjveba ramdenime wlis Semdeg moipovos.
– irakli, rogor SeafasebT 2 oqtombris arCevnebs?
– samwuxarod, es arCevnebi ar asaxavs qarTveli xalxis realur nebas, vinaidan mTeli winasaarCevno periodis ganmavlobaSi xdeboda Cveni mxardamWerebis daSantaJeba, mosyidva, daSineba. maT emuqrebodnen, aTavisuflebdnen samsaxurebidan. yvelafer amas hqonda sistemuri xasiaTi. arCevenebis dRes ki uamravi xarvezi dafiqsirda. iyo darRvevebi, Tumca aravin aqcevs amas yuradRebas. yvelam vnaxeT, ramdeni danaSaulebrivi qmedeba gamovlinda. iyenebdnen administraciul resurss da adamianebs aiZulebdnen xmis micemas sakuTari kandidatebisTvis. es yvelaferi aucileblad unda gavaanalizoT da erTxel da samudamod SevimuSaoT regulaciebi arCevnebis Riad, gamWvirvaled, yovelgvari iZulebis gareSe Casatareblad.
– gaxarias gancxadebiT, saakaSvilma RaribaSvilTan erTad maskaradi moawyo qveyanaSi Semoparvis da daWeris scenariT.
– diax, es iyo politikuri Sou, romelic orivem erTad moawyo saakaSvilis CamoyvaniT dawyebuli da daWeriT damTavrebuli. es maZlevs imis Tqmis saSualebas, rom TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebi ver da ar asaxavs amomrCevlis nebas. swored aqedan gamomdinare, arsebobs uamravi pasuxgaucemeli kiTxva.
– Tqven gindaT TqvaT, saakaSvili rom ar Camosuliyo, met xmas aiRebdiT?
– es aravin icis, magram faqtia, rom amomrCeveli ufro metad iqneboda mobilizebuli Cvenze, rogorc realur mesame Zalaze. principSi, axalCamoyalibebuli partiisTvis marTlac karg poziciaze vimyofebiT da minda madloba gadavuxado Cvens eleqtorats. es xalxi ar SeuSinda zewolas, muqaras, SantaJs, romelsac `qarTuli ocnebis~ bosebi axorcielebdnen Cveni partiis Camoyalibebis dRidan da yvelafris miuxedavad, dagvidga gverdiT am umZimes periodSi, raTa moecaT ndobis mandati qveynis Waobidan amosayvanad da qarTveli eris sakeTildReod.
– ra mogcaT am gamarjvebam?
– TviTTmmarTvelobis mmarTvelobiT iwyeba aRmasvla qveynis sakanonmdeblo organosken da aRmasrulebeli xelisuflebisken. es pirveli nabijia mxolod, romelsac mohyveba sxva gamarjveba da yvela darwmundeba Cvens kompetenturobasa da keTil zraxvebSi.
– irakli, cota ar iyos, damabnia Tqvenma gancxadebam, anu marTla TvliT, rom mixeil saakaSvili `qarTuli ocnebis~ SekveTiT Camovida da sakuTari nebiT Cajda cixeSi? simarTle giTxraT, Tuki am kuTxiT ganvixilavT viTarebas, sul sxva WrilSi warmoCndeba eqsprezidentis irgvliv agorebuli versiebi da gasagebi gaxdeba misi Camosvla aqciebis, xmauris gareSe, dakavebis faqtic.
– me ase pirdapir ar miTqvams, magram modiT, mxolod faqtebiT visaubroT. erTi ram cxadia – saakaSvili aucileblad aRmoCndeba saWiro dros saWiro adgilas, radgan `qarTul ocnebas~ wyali aqvs Seyenebuli, sWirdeba sastiki metoqis realizeba da amiT sakuTari momxreebis mobilizeba. anu enm Seqmnilia da jer kidev arsebobs `qarTuli ocnebis~ sapirwoned, rac niSnavs Sedarebas cuds da ufro cuds Soris. TavisTavad, mosaxleoba, romelsac jer isev axsovs imJamindel cixeSi wamebis faqtebi, ukanmouxedavad garbis da xmas aZlevs mmarTvel gunds, gacilebiT demokratiuli rom hgonia, vidre misi winamorbedi xelisufleba.
– e.i. acxadebT, rom isini `Sekrulebi~ arian?
– `Sekrulebi~ ki ara, erTni arian. . . anu `qarTul ocnebasa~ da `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~ Soris zRvari praqtikulad ar arsebobs, waSlilia. es ori partia daemsgavsa erTmaneTs, rogorc yoveldRiuri qmedebebiT, aseve ideologiiTac.
– isini sul sxvas amtkiceben. . .
– ar mainteresebs, romeli ras amtkicebs, erTi ram vici zustad, es aris politikuri cirki, romelsac ori reJisori da erTi scenaristi hyavs. maTi mTavari mizani ki sazogadoebis SecdomaSi Seyvanaa.
– gaerTianebuli opozicia elodeba, rom Tqven daTmobT xmebs maT sasargeblod, sxva SemTxvevaSi, `qarTuli ocnebis~ satelitad gamogacxadeben. piradad ras fiqrobT am sakiTxze?
– amasTan dakavSirebiT brifingi gavmarTeT. Riad da sajarod davafiqsireT pozicia, rom ar vapirebT koaliciis Sekvras arc `qarTul ocnebasTan~ da arc `erTian nacionalur moZraobasTan~, radgan pativs vcemT baTumelebs, im pirovnebebs, xma rom mogvces. amiT daafiqsires sakuTari pozicia – ar surT arc erTi mxare da arc meore, arCevans akeTeben Cven sasargeblod. anu koalicias vkravT baTumTan da yvelafers gavakeTebT, raTa eleqtoratis sxva nawilic Cvens mxareze gadmoviyvanoT saukeTeso programis SeTavazebiT da im gundis CamoyalibebiT, romelic SeZlebs saqarTvelos Rirseul marTvas da moqalaqeebis realur keTildReobaze zrunvas realuri SedegebiT.
– sakrebuloSi sakuTar niSas daiWerT, Tumca umciresobaSi iqnebiT, opoziciasTan an poziciasTan erTad ki gadamwyveti xma geqnebaT.
– amas ar aqvs arsebiTi mniSvneloba, radgan jer unda davanaxoT Cvens amomrCevlebs, rom swored maTTvis viRvwiT, baTumelTa interesebs viTvaliswinebT da im mxares gadavwevT sasworis pinas, romelsac sazogadoebis didi nawili dauWers mxars. Cveni es gadawyvetileba sakrebulos miscems marTebul gzas baTumelTa samsaxurSi Casadgomad. es aris im saxelmwifo interesebis ganxorcieleba, romelsac vemsaxurebiT. yvela xedavs, rom `nacionaluri moZraobac~ da `ocnebac~ cdilobs Zalauflebis mopovebas, mxolod es aris maTi mTavari sazrunavi, xolo Cveni sazrunavia mTeli municipalitetis gamarTuli muSaoba da baTumelTa interesebis dacva.
– Tqven sami adgili moipoveT baTumis sakrebuloSi. . .
– diax, 16 adgili `qarTul ocnebas~ aqvs, 16 adgili – `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~, Cven ki `oqros Sualedi~ movipoveT. amitom iTxoven CvenTan koaliciis Sekvras, magram rogorc ukve ganvacxade, arc erT mxares ar daviWerT da mosaxleobis samsaxurSi CavdgebiT.
– ar apirebT maTTan molaparakebaze wasvlas?
– rogor ara, orive mxares ukve SevTavazeT molaparakebis magidasTan dasxdoma, rom ganvixiloT, rogor ajobebs baTumis sakrebulos dakompleqteba, raTa ufro meti sargebeli movutanoT qalaqs da qalaqelebs. aucileblad mogviwevs zogadi Temebis ganxilva. es procesi ar unda vaqcioT romelime konkretuli partiis gavlenis gasaZliereblad, anu ar unda moveqceT viwro partiul interesebSi da vimoqmedoT Cveni moqalaqeebisTvis komfortuli garemos, keTildReobis Sesaqmnelad. Cveni mizani mxolod is aris, gadawyvetilebebi miviRoT baTumis sasargeblod da qveynis interesis gaTvaliswinebiT.
– Tqven imedovnebT, rom orive mxare dasxdeba TqvenTan erTad molaparakebis magidasTan da sabolood SeTanxmdebiT?
– aucileblad. yvelas vurCev, ambiciebi gverdze gadadon da ar ugulebelyon molaparakebis magidasTan Cveni mowveva. sapirispiro SemTxvevaSi, kidev erTxel daamtkiceben, rom maTi mTavari sazrunavi ara xalxi, aramed maTi piradi, viwropartiuli interesebia.

