,,ვეხმარებით ახალგაზრდებს როგორც დასაქმებაში, ისე განათლების მიღებასა და საკუთარი პიროვნების რეალიზებაში…”
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baTumis sakrebulos Semadgenloba ukve cnobilia. axla SevecdebiT gagacnoT misi wevrebis Sexedulebebi mimdinare movlenebsa da samomavlo gegmebze.
Cveni dRevandeli stumari baTumis sakrebulos yvelaze axalgazrda wevri, `qarTuli ocnebis~ baTumis axalgazrduli organizaciis Tavmjdomare riCard sirabiZea. igi proporciuli siis mexuTe nomriT moxvda qalaqis sakanonmdeblo organoSi.
riCards miaCnia, rom baTums ganviTarebis didi perspeqtivebi gaaCnia, rom aqaur axalgazrdebs yvela piroba aqvT Seqmnili Sromisa Tu dasvenebisTvis, Tvlis, rom male municipaliteti saqarTveloSi mowinave gaxdeba mosaxleobis cxovrebis donis maRali xarisxis gaTvaliswinebiT.
– riCard, sakrebulos yvelaze axalgazrda wevri xarT. iyo qalaqis sakanonmdeblo organos wevri am asakSi, namdvilad sapatioa. xom ar SegeSindaT pasuxismgeblobis?
– es Cemi didi Sromis Sedegia. ukve 6 welia, rac am sferoSi var CarTuli. irgvliv SemovikribeT axalgazrdoba, romelTa daxmarebiT vatarebT `qarTuli ocnebis~ politikas. me, rogorc yvelaze axalgazrda deputati, warmovadgen baTumis axalgazrdobis interesebs da imedi maqvs, mivitan maT xmas aRmasrulebel xelisuflebamde. cxadia, pasuxismgebloba didia, magram imedi maqvs, Tavs gavarTmev yvela valdebulebas. iqneb es axalgazrdul optimizmSi CamiTvaloT, magram merwmuneT, Cveni partiis daxmarebiT iseTi perspeqtivebi gvexsneba axalgazrdebs, rom yvela igrZnobs cvlilebebs ukeTesobisken. uamravi proeqti gvaqvs gansaxorcielebeli. minda iseT qalaqSi vcxovrobdeT, saidanac saukeTeso, warmatebuli axalgazrdebi ar gaiqcevian sakuTari karieris asawyobad. piriqiT, gvsurs, aqeT wamoviyvanoT qveynis gonieri Svilebi da SevuqmnaT yvela piroba keTildReobisaTvis. moqalaqeTa inteleqtiT fasdeba qalaqi. iq, sadac mosaxleobis cxovrebis done maRalia, warmatebulia biznesic, rac Tavis mxriv, aviTarebs ekonomikas, qveynis siZlieris fundaments. iyo sakrebulos wevri, gavaldebulebs, izruno yvela moqalaqis problemis mogvarebisTvis, nebismieri sakiTxi ganazogado, raTa, sabolood, kanonis saxe misce da isev da isev Cveni xalxis keTildReobis samsaxurSi Caayeno.
– axalgazrduli organizacia mogvagonebs komkavSirul sqemas. ras akeTebT gansxvavebuls da riTi gamoirCeva Tqveni organizacia komunisturi reJimis analogiuri uwyebisgan?
– Zalian didi sxvaobaa. pirvel rigSi, Cven erTmaneTisgan ganvsxvavdebiT demokratiulobiT. komkavSiri erT saxed aqcevda yvelas, iq aravis hqonda gansxvavebuli azris gamoTqmis saSualeba. individualizmi Ralatad da qveynis mtrad gaqcevda. Cven ki vcdilobT, gamovarCioT yvelas niWi, davexmaroT nebismiers sakuTari ideis ganxorcielebaSi. Cveni organizacia Riaa imaTTvis, visac qveynis da qarTveli eris keTildReoba surs. Cven erT did ojaxad viqeciT. iseTi niWieri, mcodne, aqtiuri axalgazrdebi gvyavs qalaqSi, rom aucilebelia maTi Tavmoyra, organizeba da maTive daxmarebiT sxavadasxva tipis, saintereso da SemoqmedebiTi proeqtebis ganxorcieleba. yvelaferi es gamoafxizlebs Cvens araaqtiur Tanatolebs, met stimuls miscems maT da uzrunvelyofs bevris momavals.
– Zalian zogadi frazebia. Tu SesZlebT am proeqtebis dakonkretebas, raTa ufro naTlad warmovidginoT, ras gulisxmobs axalgazrduli organizaciis saqmianoba?
– konkretulad, rom vTqva, ekologiis kuTxiT vaxorcielebT rig proeqtebs, vatarebT treningebs araformaluri ganaTlebis uzrunvelsayofad. axla yvela maTgans ver CamovTvli, magram vityvi, rom marTlac uzarmazari samuSao gavwieT pandemiis sawyis etapze mosaxleobis daxmarebis kuTxiT. amaze bevri telegadacema iyo da Tavs ar SegawyenT zedmeti saubriT. am dReebSi momxdar tragedias minda Sevexo. Cven iq viyaviT, maqsimalurad davixarjeT, gverdiT vedeqiT maT, visac sWirdeboda daxmareba.
– winasaarCevno kampaniis dros, yvelaze metad romeli problema gamovlinda?
– yvelas pirze ekera, qalaqis datborili quCebi. kargad iciT, zafxulSi uxvi naleqianobis gamo es problema marTlac Seiqmna. am mimarTulebiT meria muSaobs da wylisa da kanalizaciis sistemas awesrigebs. ase rom, Zalian mokle droSi, arc es iqneba salaparako. yvela dainaxavs, rogor maRal doneze moewyoba infrastruqtura. axla mxolod wvimaze akeTeben aqcents, es gasagebia da misaRebi, magram ar aris sagangaSo. irgvliv imdeni ram keTdeba, ar SeiZleba, ar iamayo.
– ras ityviT umuSevrobasa da siRaribeze, razec xSirad akeTeben aqcents opoziciis warmomadgenlebi?
– ver vityvi, rom baTumSi umuSevrobis problema dgas, radgan uamravi adamiani swored aq Camodis da saqmdeba. baTumSi bevria rogorc sezonuri, ise mudmivi samuSao, aris kolejebi, sxvadasxva profilis saswavleblebi, romelic uzrunvelyofs axalgazrdebs konkretuli profesiiT da dasaqmebiT. male amoqmeddeba mecnierebis qalaqic, romelic met Sanss miscems Cvens uniWieres Taobas. mTavaria, hqondeT swavlis, muSaobis da gamomuSavebis survili. aseve, Zalian bevr proeqts axorcielebs rogorc centraluri, ise aWaris mTavroba. isicaa, rom axalgazrdebma ar ician amis Sesaxeb. Cven vawvdiT informacias maTTvis saintereso yvela proeqtis Sesaxeb, vexmarebiT masSi CarTvasa da ganxorcielebaSi. rogorc aWaris, ise baTumis axalgazrduli organizaciebi, saministroebis analogiuri uwyebebi, yvela erTad vexmarebiT axalgazrdebs dasaqmebaSi, ise swavla-ganaTlebis miRebasa da sakuTari pirovnebis realizebaSi. amiT vcdilobT, meti axalgazrda CavrToT qalaqis cxovrebaSi, gavuZlieroT samoqalaqo pasuxismgebloba, arsebul realobaSi umtkivneulod integrireba. amas imitom vambob, rom xSiria SemTxveva, rodesac axalgazrdas uWirs airCios profesia, CaerTos sportul Tu kulturul cxovrebaSi. Cveni proeqtebi maT exmareba TviTanalizSi, maTTvis saintereso sakiTxebis Rrmad SeswavlaSi, im ideebis ganxorcielebaSi, rac manamde ver SeZles, iqneba es saxelovnebo Tu biznes proeqtebiT.
– baTumis rbili klimati da turistuli statusi ara mxolod stumrebs izidavs. Tu gifiqriaT quCaSi mowyalebisTvis gasul mozardebsa da bavSvebze?
– ki, ra Tqma unda, amaze xSirad vfiqrobT, magram es problema imaze Rrmaa, vidre erTi SexedviT Cans da mivyavarT sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebisken, rac winaaRmdegobaSi vardeba demokratiul Rirebulebebsa da tolerantul ganwyobebTan. amis miuxedavad, darwmunebuli var, am problemasac moevleba da erTxel da samudamod gadawydeba maTi cxovrebis sakiTxi, ise, rogorc es civilizebul samyaroSia miRebuli. am kuTxiT specialuri kanonproeqtia SesamuSavebeli da gansaxorcielebeli. cxadia, masSi unda CavrToT arasamTavrobo seqtoric da qalaqis sazogadoebac. erTianad SevZlebT arsebuli situaciis mogvarebas mowyalebisTvis sicivesa da sicxeSi gamosuli mcirewlovnebis sasargeblod.
– opozicia pirvel turSi arsebul xarvezebze saubrobs. ras gvetyviT amaze?
– iseTi xarvezi arsad dafiqsirebula, romelic kenWisyris Sedegebze moaxdenda seriozul gavlenas. xSirad gvesmis, rom aramizanmimarTulad viyenebdiT administraciul resurss. esec ar aris marTali. Cven mivyvebodiT saarCevno kanons da ar darRveula misi arc erTi punqti. garwmunebT, gayalbeba ar yofila da arc iqneba. pirveli turi Catarda Riad da gamWvirvaled, Tavisufal garemoSi. yvelam Tavisi arCevani daafiqsira, rasac mowmobs Tundac is, rom bevr qalaqSi dainiSna meore turi. TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebi iyo iseTi, rogoric demokratiul saxelmwifos Seefereba. amas adastureben saerTaSoriso sadamkvirveblo misiebic da organizaciebic. SesaZloa, raRac umniSvnelo teqnikuri xarvezebi iyo, magram es yvelgan xdeba, amaSi sagangaSo araferia.
– opozicia Tvlis, rom meore turSi srul gamarjvebas moipovebs.
– ara mgonia, radgan am bolos ganviTarebulma movlenebma yvelas daanaxa, rom opoziciis destruqciuli nawili iRvwis ara mSvidobisa da ganviTarebisTvis, aramed qveynis kolafsSi Casagdebad. amis daSveba ar SeiZleba. qarTveli xalxi gonieria da kargad arCevs mtyuan-marTals. swored opoziciam Seqmna is politikuri krizisi, axla rom xelze ixvevs. aucilebelia gavakeToT arCevani destruqciul Zalebsa da demokratiis gzaze myof, kompetentur gunds Soris, romlis mizania qvelmoqmedebis gaZliereba, qveynis ekonomikis ganviTareba da evropul ojaxSi saqarTvelos sruli integrireba. swored aqedan gamomdinare vambob, rom gvaqvs didi upiratesoba Cvens oponentebTan SedarebiT, rasac amtkicebs Sida socialuri kvlevebi da mosaxleobis ganwyoba, CvenTan Sexvedrisas rom afiqsireben.
– modiT, davakonkretoT, ratom unda mivceT xma `qarTul ocnebas~ da ara gaerTianebul opozicias?
– marto isic gveyofa pasuxad, rom `qarTulma ocnebam~ qarTveli xalxi gamoiyvana saakaSvilis da misi gundis sastiki reJimidan. mas Semdeg, rac Cveni gundi movida qveynis saTaveSi, uamravi ram gakeTda socialuri, jandacvis, ekonomikis, Sromis usafrTxoebis, sursaTis uvneblobis, sagareo politikis kuTxiT. Cven movaxerxeT evropis asocirebis xelSekrulebis xelmowera, saerTaSoriso avtoritetis gaRrmaveba, demokratiuli instituciebis amoqmedeba, penitenciuri sistemis, saarCevno kodeqsis, sasamarTlo institutebis mowesrigeba da uamravi sxva ram. xalxs aRar eSinia dasmenebis, mosmenebis, usamarTlobis, wamebis da araadamianuri mopyrobis. `qarTul ocnebas~ imitomac unda dauWiron mxari, rom xma miscen qveyanaSi stabilurobas, mSvidobas da demokratiuli procesebis ganviTarebas, adamianebis uflebebisa da Tavisuflebis dacvas.
– ramdenad marTebulad migaCniaT qveynis mesame prezidentis dapatimreba?
– am SemTxvevaSi, statuss araviTari mniSvneloba ar aqvs. es adamiani iyo Zebnili, romelsac ganaCeni gamotanili hqonda. amas ar dasjerda da Semoipara qveyanaSi, daarRvia sazRvari, ris gamoc kidev daemateba sasjeli. kanoni erTi unda iyos yvelasTvis da miT umetes, yofili prezidentisTvis. areulobis da dapirispirebis meti mis aq Camosvlas araferi moutania Cveni mosaxleobisTvis. ratom unda gavasamarTloT is gansxvavebulad? saakaSvili ar aris politpatimari, igi Cveulebrivze ufro saSiSi kriminalia, romelic uamravi adamianis wamebaSi, mkvlelobasa da gaubedurebaSia eWvmitanili. man imaze mainc unda agos pasuxi, razec mtkicebulebebi moipova sasamarTlom. amiT uamravi Cveni moqalaqe igrZnobs samarTlianobis Zalas. saakaSvilis dapatimrebiT kidev erTxel dadasturda, rom samarTlebriv saxelmwifos warmovadgenT, sadac nebismieri moqalaqe Tanabaria kanonis uzenaesobis winaSe.
