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Tvlis, rom Ziebaa es samyaro, Tu ar gaCerdebi, ar danebdebi, aucileblad ipovi SenTvis samyof bednierebas, ferebs, romliTac gaaferadeb da gaferaddebi. jer kidev eqvsi wlis iyo, roca hkiTxes, profesiiT vin surda gamosuliyo, bevri ar ufiqria, patara skami moarbenina, rogorc scenaze, ise Sexta da mtkiced ganacxada, `rom gardavicvlebi, Cemze unda Tqvan, gardaicvala saqarTvelos damsaxurebuli artisti natalia galogre~. saidan moafiqrda es, ar axsovs, Tumca axsovs ojaxis wevrebis gaocebuli saxeebi patara gogos didur fiqrebze. mas Semdeg araerTi ram Seicvala masSi, Tumca is, rom msaxioboba surda, ucvleli darCa. raRac periodi, mamis rCeviT, fizikis swavlas dauTmo. frazam: `Tu fizikasa da qimias kargad iswavli, icode, yovelTvis saWiro adamiani iqnebi~ Zalian didi gavlena moaxdina masze, Tumca sabolooDDd gadawyvita, ar eRalata bavSvobis ocnebisTvis, radgan zustad icoda, rom sadac unda iyo, Tu gwams sakuTari SesaZleblobebis, yovelTvis iqnebi saWiro adamiani saWiro saTqmeliT. msaxiob natalia galogres kulturisa da xelovnebis sferoSi moRvawe adamianebi, da aramarto isini, kargad icnoben. icnoben gogos usazRvro energiiTa da SemarTebiT, romelic Tvlis, rom `Tavs zeviT Zala arsebobs~ da SeuZlebelia ver ganaxorcielo rame, Tu guliT moindome. bavSvobaze saubari dausruleblad SeuZlia. axsovs yvela emocia, is adamianebi, romlebmac aswavles rogor icxovros swori faseulobebiT, rogor iyos bednieri da brZolisunariani yvelgan da yovelTvis. axsovs TiToeuli adamianis mxardaWera, gansakuTrebiT ki mSoblebis, romlebic mudmivad idgnen ojaxis da Svilebis keTildReobis sadarajoze. da mainc, vin arian is adamianebi, vinc yvelaze metad enatreba da visTan gatarebuli wuTebis sanacvlod daTmobda yvelafers?
gTavazobT intervius msaxiob natalia galogresTan.
– ra genatrebaT bavSvobidan yvelaze metad?
– ar SemiZlia emociebis gareSe visaubro am Temaze, xSirad mekiTxebian megobrebi, rogor var yovelTvis aseTi mxiaruli, brZolisunariani, uSiSari, laRi da mizanswrafuli, amayad vpasuxob maT, rom es Tvisebebi usayvarlesi bebiisa da babuisgan gamomyva. CemTvis fundamenturad mniSvnelovani adamianebi iyvnen isini. babua cota ufro mkacri iyo, magram bebo yovelTvis maZlevda imis uflebas, vyofiliyavi laRi da Tavisufali. mimaCnia, rom zustad es aris saWiro dRes ganaTlebis sistemisTvis, bavSvi mudmivad Tavisufali unda iyos Tavis fantaziebSi, mas unda mivceT Secdomebis daSvebis ufleba, oRond miagnos imas, rac bednierebas mianiWebs. bebosTan asocirebuli surneli miyvars da verafers vadareb mas. yvelafers davTmobdi bebiasa da babuasTan gatarebuli wlebis dabrunebis sanacvlod.
– arCevanis saSualeba xelaxla rom gqondeT, sxva profesias Tu airCevdiT axla, roca iciT, ramxela Sromas moiTxovs msaxioboba?
– Cemi arCevani upiroboa, rac unda droSi mogzaurobisa da ukan dabrunebis ufleba momcen, arasdros Sevcvli. raRac periodi davuTme fizikas, aseve Seviswavle sabanko aRricxvebi, Tumca 23 wlis asakSi mkacrad gadavwyvite, rom ar meTqva bavSvobis ocnebaze uari da Cavabare Teatralur universitetSi dramisa da kinos samsaxioboze. davamTavre andro enuqiZis jgufi. yovelTvis sasiamovnod maxsendeba studenturi wlebi, mravalferovnebiTa da saintereso TavgadasavlebiT savse. miuxedavad imisa, rom profesiiT msaxiobi var, Zalian bevr rames veWidebi TeatrSi. magaliTad, gamomadga fizikis codna, roca vimuSave ganaTebaze, proeqtebis werisas ki gamomadga sabanko aRricxvebi. vfiqrob, roca msaxiobi xar, damatebiTi resursebi unda gqondes, romlebsac saWiro dros gamoiyeneb. arasdros vnebdebodi, albaT, es Cemi temperamentis da kidev imis bralia rom ar meSinia siaxlis. mimaCnia, rom Tavs zeviT arsebobs Zala, Tu swor mimarTulebas mivcemT miznisken saval gzebs. Zalian miyvars Cemi profesia da mzad var, mTeli cxovreba davuTmo mas.
– rogoria natalia galogre scenaze da mis miRma?
– daviwyeb imiT, rac sxvebsac araerTxel aRuniSnavT, rom ar var konfliqturi adamiani. SeiZleba iTqvas, reJisoris morCili var, roca zustad vici, ra surs mas Cemi personaJisgan. rogor vasruleb amas, es mayurebelma da reJisorma unda Seafason, romelic parterSi zis da uyurebs Tavis naSroms, romelic TiTqos plasteliniT gamoZerwa da suli STabera. rac Seexeba imas, Tu rogori var scenis miRma: xandaxan meSinia xolme sakuTari Tavis, ai, im gardamavali wamis Zilis win, roca aTasi fiqri, xandaxan CemTvis saSiSi, ireva TavSi, minda sworad vifiqro, sworad ganvsazRvro prioritetebi sakuTar cxovrebaSi, radgan naklebi imedgacrueba viwvnio. es procesi, dameTanxmebiT, rom Zalian rTulad mimdinareobs adamianSi. rTulia, mudmivad myarad idge, SeewinaaRmdego imas, rac ar mogwons, simarTleze Tqva, rom simarTlea tyuilze – tyuili. rTulia, magram jerjerobiT gamomdis es da kmayofili var im procesebisa, rac xdeba CemSi imisaTvis, rom gavimarjvo, pirvel rigSi, sakuTar Tavze. scenaze var iseTi, rogoric sWirdeba scenas, magram iqac, ra Tqma unda, vcdilob, sakuTari Tu sxvisi gamocdileba gaviziaro, didxans vacocxlo Cemi personaJi scenaze. magaliTad, msubuqi yofaqcevis qalis rolis Sesrulebis win wavedi im adgilze, sadac vicodi, rom idgnen uZvelesi profesiis qalbatonebi, vismendi maT istoriebs da cxared vqviTinebdi. mere viRacam damamSvida, yvela erTnair istoriebs hyveba mand, mTlad nu daijereb da scenaze mag yvelafers nu gadaitano, Tumca maTgan mosmenili istoriebi namdvilad gamomadga, scenaze ufro Tavdajerebuli rom vyofiliyavi.
– giTamaSiaT personaJi, romelic Sinaganad miuRebeli yofila TqvenTvis?
– msgavsi gancda yvela msaxiobis cxovrebaSi yofila, magram roca rols gTavazoben da Sen amaze pasuxismgeblobas iReb, Tanxmdebi, keTili unda inebo da Sens cnobier-aracnobierSi moZebno yvela is resursi, rac aRniSnuli dilemis daZlevaSi dagexmareba. me ledi makbetis tatu maqvs da xSirad aRminiSnavs, rogori msgavsebaa Cemsa da makbets Soris. zedapirulad Tu ganvixilavT, es aris civsisxliani, recidivisti qali, magram ar aris aseTi. maSin, roca rolze muSaobas viwyeb, vamarTleb Cems personaJs, vuZebni axsnas, Tu ratom da risgan gamomdinare iyo misi qmedeba aseTi. Tu kargad Seiswavli Seni personaJis cxovrebas, raRac TvisebebSi aucileblad aRmoaCen msgavsebas, ubralod, amis xmamaRla aRiareba gviWirs xSirad.
– rogor fiqrobT, dRes Teatri asrulebs Tavis upirveles funqcias?
– vera da es Zalian guldasawyvetia. magaliTad, Cven, msaxiobebma, reJisorebma, xelovanebma da, ubralod, kulturis sferoSi moRvawe adamianebma, davkargeT motivacia, TiTqos daStampuli vcxovrobT. kulturaSi Zalian didi doziT Semovida politika, rac ar aris sasiamovno. piriqiT, politikis, religiis, umciresobebisa da yvelafris motivatori iyo yovelTvis kultura, radgan xmamaRla laparakobda problemebze, igav-arakis eniT elaparakeboda SemaRlebuli scenidan adamianebs da gamofxizlebisken, simarTlisTvis TvalebSi Caxedvisken mouwodebda. dRes guli mwydeba kulturisa da xelovnebis sferoSi momuSave aramarto axalgazrdebze, Cems Taobaze, aseve, cota ufros Taobaze, radgan mimaCnia, rom raRac doziT davnebdiT, mxolod neli svliTa da inerciiT vagrZelebT gzas. kovidviTarebam TvalnaTliv dagvanaxa, rogor SeiZleboda gagveswo droisTvis, sxva simaRleze gadavsuliyaviT, SegveZlo ufro metad motivirebuli vyofiliyaviT, agvewyo am mocemulobaSi problemebisTvis fexi. britaneTis Teatrma es SeZlo, roca speqtaklis Canawerebis onlaintranslireba daiwyo, es iyo fufuneba xalxisTvis. es Cven weliwad-naxevris dagvianebiT. imas, is rac axalgazrdebs, momaval Taobas tonusSi amyofebs da energias matebs, ar unda vapauzebdeT xelovnurad, piriqiT, unda SevuwyoT xeli, Tu gvinda da miviltviT progresisaken. samwuxarod, dRes qarTuli Teatri ver uwyobs fexs Tanamedrove gamowvevebs.
– Tavisufleba TqvenTvis. . .
– miyvars Tavisufleba, radgan Tavisufleba aris CemTvis siyvaruli. siyvaruliT iwyeba da mTavrdeba CemTvis Tavisufleba. iq sadac siyvaruli ar aris, Tavisufleba ver iqneba.
– adamiani adamianisTvis. . .
– mjera, rom adamiani ibadeba marto, gzadagza ki virCevT adamianebs, rom es martooba Segvimsubuqon, Torem, mere aucileblad viqnebiT marto. adamianebi erTmaneTs xels unda uwyobdnen zrdasa da ganviTarebaSi.
– axali gamowveva. . .
– CemTvis es aris baTumis inkluziuri Teatraluri dasis Camoyalibeba, romelic aerTianebs SezRuduli SesaZleblobis mqone bavSvebs, axalgazrdebsa da tipuri ganviTarebis axalgazrdebs. roca es gamowveva gaCnda Cems cxovrebaSi, ra Tqma unda, davfiqrdi, Tu gavarTmevdi am yvelafers Tavs. miuxedavad imisa, vTvli, rom Zalian humanuri adamiani var, magram, roca faqtis winaSe davdeqi, vatyobdi Cems Tavs, rom raRacebis gakontroleba miwevda. mere mivxvdi, rom araferic ar unda vakontrolo. SezRuduli SesaZleblobis mqone adamianTan Tu Sen Tavs akontroleb, iq arasodes gamogiva laRi, bunebrivi urTierToba, maT verasodes gamoiyvan sasaTbure pirobebidan, romelSic sazogadoeba an mSobeli acxovrebs. Sesabamisad, es yvelaferi ukan movitove da dRes Zalian didi bednierebaa CemTvis es gamowveva. aRniSnuli dasis Camoyalibebis idea rom gamiCnda, Sevitane ganacxadi proeqtis `Seni idea baTums~ farglebSi da gavimarjveT. vdgamT speqtakls `musikis hangebi~, premiera 3 dekembers – SSm pirTa dRes gaimarTeba. minda, madloba gadavuxado dasis TiToeul wevrs, maT mSoblebs, yvela im adamians, visganac vgrZnob mudmiv Zalasa da mxardaWeras.
– Tqveni gzavnili. . .
– verafers movuwodeb adamianebs, magram vTxov, maT rom yvelaferi gaakeTon realizebisTvis. aucilebelia realizebuli iyo im saqmeSi, rasac airCev. miuxedavad dabrkolebebisa, unda SeZlo, ipovo Zala sakuTar TavSi da gaakeTo is, rac bednierebas moganiWebs. Tuki iqneba bevri sakuTar SesaZleblobebSi, profesiaSi darwmunebuli da realizebuli adamiani, Cemi azriT, naklebad iqneba qaosi, boroteba, tkivili. xSirad vambob: ar minda movkvde, me minda gardavicvalo. magaliTad, CemTvis gia yanCeli gardaicvala da dagvitova sazrdo, romliTac saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi gamovikvebebiT. ra Tqma unda, gia yanCels zebunebrivi Zala hqonda da mas ar vedrebi, magram Tu mec SevZleb raRac Rirebuli davtovo sikvdilis Semdeg, e. i. rom tyuilad ar micxovria. me ar minda viyo erTi Cveulebrivi adamiani, romelic uyvars bebias, babuas, mSoblebs, axloblebs, megobrebs, qmars, Svilebs. minda SevZlo sicocxle sikvdilis Semdeg.
– Tqveni sayvareli fraza. . .
– Caplinis sityvebi: `me angelozi ar vyofilvar, magram vcdilobdi, adamiani vyofiliyavi. ecade Senc~.
