,,ჭეშმარიტად მორწმუნე უფალსაც უყვარს და მას სამშობლოც არ დაკარგავს”
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dabadebidan 70 weli usruldeba nigazeuleli ximSiaSvilebis gvaris warmomadgenels, cnobil pedagogs, meCeTis imams Temur ximSiaSvils. dRes igi Cveni stumaria.
– wlebs Tavisi gaaqvs. TiTqos guSin iyo, roca nigazeulis saSualo skolis karebi SevaRe. gulisxmiereba, mofereba ar mogvaklo pirvelma maswavlebelma leonina SonvaZem. pirvelive dRes klasSi Semovida skolis maSindeli direqtori arCil cecxlaZe, romelmac yvelas dagvamaxsovra Tavi, rogorc kargma organizatorma, kolegebsa da aRsazrdelebze mzrunvelma adamianma. skolas maSinac ar iviwyebda, roca 35 wlis ganmavlobaSi, TvalisCinwarTmeuli saxlSi ijda. simwifis atestats cnobili pedagogis, saxalxo ganaTlebis TvalsaCino warmomadgenlis daviT lomTaTiZis xelmowera aqvs. is meuRle mariam xabelaSvilTan erTad nigazeulSi iyo movlinebuli. misi iniciativiT 8-wliani skola saSualo skolad gadakeTda. Zmebma daviT da SoTa lomTaTiZeebma SuaxevSi sapatio saxeli datoves. ojaxSi oTxi dedmamiSvili vizrdebodiT. zurabi da me warCinebuli moswavleebi viyaviT. mama vasil ximSiaSvili, samsaxurebrivi datvirTvis miuxedavad, Svilebis aRzrdas did dros uTmobda, principuli da obieqturi iyo, icoda Tavisi adgili da roli ojaxSi, sazogadoebaSi. skola rom davamTavre, vuTxari, rom baTumis pedagogiur institutSi, fizika-maTematikis fakultetze vapirebdi sabuTebis Setanas. arCevani momiwona, daviT maswavleblis amagsac xazi gausva. didi konkursi davZlie da imave wels studenti gavxdi.
– rogor gamoiareT studentobis wlebi?
– kursze erTi saxelobiTi stipendiati da 6 warCinebuli studenti viyaviT. 28 students institutis maSindelma reqtorma oTar bakuraZem, maTematikis korifeebma SoTa qemxaZem, miSa gadaxabaZem, aslan xaxutaiSvilma, aleqsandre beraZem, givi xuxunaiSvilma siTbo da siyvaruli gamogvayoles. Salva baxtaZe, ramdenime wlis Semdeg, maTematikis mecnierebaTa kandidatis xarisxiT instituts daubrunda. sxvadasxva skolis direqtori iyo aw gansvenebuli vladimer beriZe, kargi organizatoris saxeliT sargebloda jumber abaSiZe. 28 kursdamTavrebulidan wuTisofels 25 SemovrCiT. studentobisas dawyebuli megobroba dRemde grZeldeba.
– mamis rols xazi gausviT, Tavad rogori mama da meojaxe xarT?
– ojaxze, Svilebis momavalze zrunva nigazeulel ximSiaSvilebs cxovrebis wesad gvaqvs qceuli. swori arCevani gaakeTa Cemma Zmam zurab ximSiaSvilma. igi furtios saSualo skolis direqtori, zamleTis sasoflo sabWos aRmaskomis Tavmjdomare iyo. Sromam warmoaCina Cveni ojaxis rZali JuJuna abaSiZe-ximSiaSvili. soflis kacad icnobdnen meore Zmas – lavrentis. naxevari saukunea meuRlesTan erTad ojaxur tvirTs veWidebi. sami gogona da erTi vaJi gaizarda Cems ojaxSi. kacTmoyvareoba, erovnuloba, mindobili saqmisadmi pasuxismgeblobaa maTi cxovrebis Tanmdevi.
– nigazeulis saSualo skolis maTematikis maswavlebeli iyaviT, ramdenime weli redaqtorobdiT gazeT `soflis mateanes~. maTematikosi da gazeTis redaqtori?
– Tanasoflelma, perspeqtiulma axalgazrda mirian abaSiZem nigazeulis axalgazrduli kavSiri Camoayaliba, romelSic Cemi Taobis nigazeulelebi amiran, Saqro ximSiaSvilebi, SemdgomSi vaso ximSiaSvilic CavrTeT. gaCnda gazeTis daarsebis idea. redaqtoroba me viTave. literaturasTan, gramatikasTan mwyralad ar var. oTxi weli gazeTi periodulad gamodioda. mravali saintereso publikacia, leqsi da prozauli nawarmoebi daibeWda. maT Soris Cemi leqsebic iyo.
– poeziaSic scadeT bedi?
– roca axalgazrda viyavi, leqsebiT Tavs viwonebdi. muzam arc moxucebulobis Jams mimatova. Tu damcalda, krebulis gamocemasac vapireb. redaqtoric SerCeuli myavs.
– avtoriteti, kvalifikacia, janmrTeloba saSualebas gaZlevdaT, rom maswavleblad gemuSavaT. ratom irCieT pedagogiur jildoze gasvla?
– Tanamedrove swavlebis formebi, sasertifikacio gamocdebi da pirvel rigSi, Tavmoyvareoba iyo safuZveli, rom maswavleblobaze uari meTqva. gamocdaze `CaWrili~ maswavlebeli gakveTilze ar Sevidodi, Tumca gamocdis Cabareba arc micdia. TiTqmis naxevari saukune vimuSave skolaSi. Cemi aRzrdilebi ukve saxelovani mecnierebi arian, Tanamdebobebzec muSaoben.
– amJamad riT xarT dakavebuli?
– sofelSi adamians saqme da sazrunavi ar eleva. saojaxo saqmeebs nigazeulis meCeTis imamobac SevuTavse. mama kargi finansisti iyo. samsaxurebriv saqmeebs arabuli enis Seswavlasac uTavsebda. misgan viswavle arabuli wera-kiTxva. RvTismsaxureba upirveles saqmed mimaCnia. me suliT xorcamde qarTveli var, erovnuli suliskveTebiT, Rirseuli winaprebis erTgulebiT. nigazeulis sajaro skolis axlandeli direqtori Saqro ximSiaSvili 14 wlis win marTlmadideblobas eziara. Cven erTi salocavi, erTi xati ar gvaqvs, magram samSoblos siyvarulSi veravin Segvecileba. WeSmariti morwmune ufalsac uyvars da mas samSobloc ar dakargavs.
– 70 wlis iubile Suaxevis municipalitetis xelmZRvanelobam mogilocaT.
– asakis matebasTan erTad, giCndeba survili, amagi dagifason. municipalitetis axlad arCeuli meri omar takiZe, resurscentris xelmZRvaneli eduard gograWaZe, saqarTvelos pedagogTa da mecenatTa Tavisufali profkavSiris Suaxevis raionuli sabWos Tavmjdomare levan natariZe adrec da axlac Cemi muSaobiT, RvTismsaxurebis formebiT kmayofilni arian. adresi, romelic 70 wlis iubileze maTgan miviRe, mravlismTqmelia.
– islamis zogierTi mqadagebeli marTlmadideblebs, maT mimdevrebs augad moixseniebs. Tqveni pozicia rogoria?
– warsulis bedukuRmarToba kargad maqvs gaTviTcnobierebuli. aWaris mufTi iyo meriseli axmed xalifaSvili, xonTqris karze xojad iyo oladaureli loman-efendi qarcivaZe, maT qarTveloba, qarTuli ena saficrad hqondaT. avsityvaoba, qarTvelebis erTmaneTze gadakideba sargebels ar mogvitans. Cems asakSi WeSmarit sarwmunoebas eziara SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo premiis laureati fridon xalvaSi. misi mama islamis mqadagebeli iyo. ase rom, sarwmunoebis mixedviT nu SemafasebT.
– Svilebi an SviliSvilebi winaprebis ZirZvel mrwamss rom daubrundnen?
– saojaxo biblioTekaSi `yurans~ da `biblias~ sapatio adgili aqvs miCneuli. maluli qristiani yofila samSoblos zvarakad Sewiruli selim ximSiaSvili. WeSmarit sarwmunoebas eziara Serif ximSiaSvili (aleqsandre adJarski), Svilebis, SviliSvilebis ufalTan misvla maTi arCevania. Tavsmoxveuli araferi varga. erT WerqveS cxovrobdnen Saqro ximSiaSvili da islamis mimdevari dedamisi. Cems SemTxvevaSic Tu ase iqneba, vinmes ver davemdurebi. nebismieri sarwmunoeba gvavaldebulebs, adamianebi gviyvardes, maT momavalze vifiqroT. maxsovs is samTavrobo SezRudvebi, devna da Seviwroeba, romlebsac qristianobis, islamis mimdevrebis misamarTiT iCendnen. SeiZleba sxva moatyuo, sakuTar TavTanac marTali ar iyo, magram uflis mimarT Ralati sikeTes aravis moutans. deda kakalaZeebis gvaridan iyo. babuad mergeboda misi axlobeli, RvTismsaxuri Risa kakalaZe. sofelSi islamis mimdevari rom gardaicvleboda, gapatiosnebis rituals RamiT, Cumad asrulebda. axla sofelSi meCeTi gvaqvs, aravin gviTvalTvalebs, sasjelis ar gveSinia.
– dawyebulia moZraoba, rom nigazeulis cixesimagres adrindeli saxe daubrunon. saubaria meCeTis adgilmonacvleobaze. . .
– me is wlebic maxsovs, roca cixe-simagris kedlebi iSleboda, wyaniSurebze arsebuli selim ximSiaSvilis saflavi eulad iyo mitovebuli. mecenatis, eris Rirseuli Svilis Teimuraz komaxiZis iniciativiT cixesimagris restavracia daiwyo, selimis saflavi keTilmoewyo. misi TavkveTis adgilze, seriyanaSi (sofeli bako) memoriali gakeTda da saxalxo dResaswauls `selimobas~ daedo saTave. `nacionalebisis~ xelisuflebaSi mosvlis Semdeg cixe-simagre aRaravis gaxsenebia. axlandeli xelisuflebis ZalisxmeviT, igi kulturuli memkvidreobis Zeglad iqceva. meCeTsac Tu adgils sxvagan miuCenen, dasamduri da sasayveduro ar unda iyos.
– nigazeulelebi mravali siaxlis moTaveni xarT.
– sofelSi 11 gvaris warmomadgenlebi vsaxlobT. sainiciativo wesiT, folkloruli ansambli `11 Zma~ CamovayalibeT. axalgazrduli kavSiris, nigazeulis sajaro skolis direqciis, soflis aqtivis iniciativiT saintereso RonisZiebebi gaimarTa. mec maT gverdiT var, organizatorebis TxovniT, scenarze vmuSaob. sofelSi rom xar, cxovrebis im wess unda misdio, rasac TviTon awesebs. ase movdivar 70 welia, ase iqneba momavalSic. . .